Save_Our_Scale. FREE SHIPPING of letters to Mattel

[PJ]

mrnevada said:

I wish mattel did some action figures all ready because there is no example of what the figures will be like, all their stuff is low articulated and or baby toys.

You're kidding right? Mattel's DCSH and DCUC have more articulation than any Jakks RA/DA figure...and better scuplts than most DC Direct figures. Again the only problem I see with Mattel is after 4 years of the DC/JLU figures they still haven't figured out good distribution to get them on the pegs.

I hate to say it but what you guys are asking them to do is hurt their own sales. If they make them the same scale as Jakks RA/DA figures then there will be people out there who will pick and choose through their figures. What I mean is there would be plenty of opportunity for customers to pass on a wrestler they released, because they have him as a Jakks already. They won't do that as they spent good money to purchase the WWE license So they are going to want it to be a success.

Again this board and the collectors market in general is a very small portion of their targeted customers. So I really don't think they care about putting them in scale with Jakks as they are going to want their line to be the "be all...tell all" of the wrestling figures. I'd think they are going to make them stand apart from the other companies lines. Mattel's two major action figure scales right now are the 3 3/4 - 4 3/4" scale JLU/The Batman lines and the 6" DCSU/DCUC figures. So I'd bet the WWE figures will be in one of those scales as well.

[Graze]

thechosenone20 said:

Um that was MARVEL TOYBOZ NOT MATTEL boy your gonna be idsappointed when you get your barbie...i mean wrestler

carly1988 said:

Mattel will keep everything the same like they did from the transition from WCW to TNA.

What, what a ing ignorant comment. Jakks makes Pokemon, do I have to worry about a Cenachu? No I don't. Mattel has a line of action figures directed at collectors, are they like Barbie, NO! Remove head from ass, thank you.

[kocolewski]

I don´t have a negative mindset, but are you all autisms? Why should everything always stay the same? What if the japanese people once said "no more evolution"? We would still be without TVs, DVDs and the internet! Give those people at Mattel the chance to move on and ring in a new era of action figs! Mattel will never go that low and communicate with children in a Wrestling figures forum :-)

Mattel ruled the world with the Masteros Of The Universe in the 80´s and they´ll do again with WWE figures. Just leave them alone and let them do their work! You all should better collect your powers to get better in school instead of caring for any useless petitions!

[● kaneisdaman ●]

Well I do want scale in Mattels figs and hopefully this idea will be successful in getting it.

Sig PM sent too naparo

[The L.F.C Fan]

If I remember I'll do one later, I like you think this really needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.

[albireo]

I have a question, if we wish to email our letter to you, what format should it be in , i have word 2007, will i need to convert it to an older version word document or will you be OK with the 2007 version?

[gianthaystacks]

This is a really good idea, because I'm sure lots of people will participate, and I will most likely be one of them.
There are thousands of members on Wrestlingfigs, so they would definetly take notice.
Good Luck with this! Think what a difference we could make in two years! .

[v/\v]

Peeps the contracts have been signed and sealed. It's cooked.

[Spud]

Personally I hope very little people do this.

This isn't me being a b****rd to collectors, I just want WWE figures to sell terribly, I want Vince to be shown how much of a mistake he has made. I want Mattel to totally change the line and screw it up.

I also hope Jakks makes TNA figures in the exact same scale as the current WWE figures and they sell amazingly well.

[blanka]

Some of you guys are so ing stupid that it's hilarious.

Bunch of idiots who have no common, nor business sense.

PJ has laid it out for you PERFECTLY several times now...but you've got a one track mind....so put the horse blinders on, and giddyup.

How old are the majority of you? In your teens? Grow up.

[naparo01]

Kanesdaman made a great sig for people to help spread teh wrokd. feel free to use it!


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[naparo01]

IF the collectors are a small part of the market then answerer met his. What has made the CS line so popular?

My argument is that the child market is neglectable b/c kids will by toys no matter what. Its, in economic terms inelastic. So what ever company or scale most Little kids will buy. So when comparing the 2 choices (scale vs non) we can cancel them out.

When it comes to the avid cs collectors and the adult collector population. You can see that this issue does matter and will determine who continues to collect. So for this additional population its an elastic product.

They have the kids no matter what. This decision can effect weather they get the gravy. The population of people with their own income to make economic decisions. The people who are willing to relay flood their market with cash. The COLLECTORS!

pj2 said:

mrnevada said:

I wish mattel did some action figures all ready because there is no example of what the figures will be like, all their stuff is low articulated and or baby toys.

You're kidding right? Mattel's DCSH and DCUC have more articulation than any Jakks RA/DA figure...and better scuplts than most DC Direct figures. Again the only problem I see with Mattel is after 4 years of the DC/JLU figures they still haven't figured out good distribution to get them on the pegs.

I hate to say it but what you guys are asking them to do is hurt their own sales. If they make them the same scale as Jakks RA/DA figures then there will be people out there who will pick and choose through their figures. What I mean is there would be plenty of opportunity for customers to pass on a wrestler they released, because they have him as a Jakks already. They won't do that as they spent good money to purchase the WWE license So they are going to want it to be a success.

Again this board and the collectors market in general is a very small portion of their targeted customers. So I really don't think they care about putting them in scale with Jakks as they are going to want their line to be the "be all...tell all" of the wrestling figures. I'd think they are going to make them stand apart from the other companies lines. Mattel's two major action figure scales right now are the 3 3/4 - 4 3/4" scale JLU/The Batman lines and the 6" DCSU/DCUC figures. So I'd bet the WWE figures will be in one of those scales as well.

[naparo01]

Than should be fine. Yes another letter to the grwoing collection!

albireo said:

I have a question, if we wish to email our letter to you, what format should it be in , i have word 2007, will i need to convert it to an older version word document or will you be OK with the 2007 version?

[naparo01]

Yess! Thats so good to hear peopel with the right spirit. Welcome aboard mate!

gianthaystacks said:

This is a really good idea, because I'm sure lots of people will participate, and I will most likely be one of them.
There are thousands of members on Wrestlingfigs, so they would definetly take notice.
Good Luck with this! Think what a difference we could make in two years! .

[naparo01]

You obviously didn't read past the Title of this post did u?

It ins't about getting jakks back. We ahve accepted the inevitable truth that mattel is taking over. We're just fighing for scale.

vettel360 said:

Peeps the contracts have been signed and sealed. It's cooked.

[[MJH]]

pj2 said:

mrnevada said:

I wish mattel did some action figures all ready because there is no example of what the figures will be like, all their stuff is low articulated and or baby toys.

You're kidding right? Mattel's DCSH and DCUC have more articulation than any Jakks RA/DA figure...and better scuplts than most DC Direct figures. Again the only problem I see with Mattel is after 4 years of the DC/JLU figures they still haven't figured out good distribution to get them on the pegs.

Really? I only really knew that Mattel made barbies hotwheels and fischer price toys, glad to head they have had expierience with action figures. I really should've know they made them aswell as I used to collect a few of those figures.

[amxfiles]

My only problem I have with Mattel and their taking over the line stems from their newest Masters of the Universe line and it's bullcrapdistribution.

[Reddevilbigevil]

pj2 said:

It won't make a difference as far as scale and articulation goes Mattel will make them how they want them because they are a business and they want to sell their product. If they make a Triple H they want it to sell. They don't want you to say..."Hey I have a Triple H...I'll pass on this one" So if they decide to go with a 5" figure then that's what they'll do...you have to remember this board/collectors are such a small percentage of their targeted business.
I can see that people will be upset, but at the end of the day they are just toys and if the sculpts are nice I'll buy them. Personally as much as I love the CS line I'm just glad that things like the thunder thighs/fat ankles Jakks gave us will be gone. Again my big concern with Mattel is their boy toys distribution. I can find any Barbie my daughter wants at any store yet I have a very hard time finding thier DC product. (Especially the JLU lines)

I can guaruntee Mattell, will do things the way they want to do it regardless of some collectors letters. As i have said in other posts I have personally dealt with that company through the whole masters of the Universe phase in 2002, while jeremy was working with Mattel. They flooded the markets with repaint, variants and the line failed because it was projected to collectors and not marketed to kids. Mattel has already said that they won`t let that happen to any of their other liscenses. So heres whats going to happen. Wrestling toys will be just that again, toys for kids. Any letters or anything going to mattel about the WWE line and collectors will be laughed at. WWE will be compatable with Batman and Superman, not jakks TNA, they want a product that will be bought and paid for by children. If you want more insight into the minds at Mattell, email jeremy, he worked for mattel before jakks, and thats another reason i know nothing will be said by jeremy, it will be just gone one day and he`ll swear up and down that the line isn`t dead just like he did with masters of the Universe, he`s gotten very good at telling us what we want to hear and then changing it. The fourhorsemen did a line of masters of the Universe action figure sized statues so we could finish off our collections with figs never made, but it`s not the same as articulated plastic and we already have UF. So say goodbye to the collectors market WWE!!!! Hope they loose a ton of money and want to get out of this contract.So i also guess SVR 2009 will be the last in the series as well. too bad, they had a good thing going.

[plasticsuperstar]

I totally understand PJ's point about a completely new scale meaning people buying a new HHH,Cena etc but there's always new kids getting into WWE (look at how many repaints Jakks have made and sold) and there's always new wrestlers joining WWE so after a year there will be loads of figures that Jakks never made from the current roster. The thing I disagree about is adult collectors making up such a small percentage of sales, there are obviously more kids that have wrestling figures than adults that collect but most kids have a collection of 20-30 figures, I buy more than that every week, some weeks I buy more than double the average kids collection (from what I've seen with relatives, friends' kids and kids that sell their collections at bootfairs), I can guarantee that the people on this board bought more WWE figures in the last year than all the kids in the UK put together alot of which are the expensive IEs including 1/100s and other exclusives that kids don't even know about, so every adult collector probably equals about the same profit as 100+ kids. The CS line has only been successful because of adult collectors, kids may buy one or two but there's so many older collectors that have bought every single one with multiple doubles plus RAs/AD etc, I've spent over $15,000 in the last year on WWE figures, the average kid probably spends or has spent on him/her about $50-$100 a year on wrestling figures. There's other people on this forum that spend even more than me and if Mattell start a whole new scale then they will lose all those sales and there will be no more 1/100s, IEs etc. I'm sure that Mattell will have a new way of making the figures, they will probably have better articulation/better detail/more accessories etc but unless they go down the cartoony route, which is unlikely now real scan is available, then simply continuing the same scale will allow all the current market to continue spending, Jakks have built up a huge fanbase so Mattell would be insane to scrap that and start again by just selling to kids. Another Classic Line could never work because there isn't going to be any more figure collectors in the target age group that never heard about CS. So I think that Mattell would lose alot more sales from starting a whole new scale with a whole new fanbase of kids (who will always be there anyway and will buy WWE figures regardless) than the amount they would lose from the few people that wouldn't buy an updated version of a certain wrestler (I've seen kids mixing Hasbros, TTLs and RAs quite happily, I used to mix a few thumb wrestlers with my Hasbros so even if they change the scale it wouldn't necessarily mean kids would buy the same wrestlers again) If some people want to stop collecting when Mattell takes over that's fair enough but I can't see any reason why a change of scale would be good for anyone - collectors, Mattell and WWE would all benefit from the scale staying the same and most kids don't care either way. TBH I reckon WWE will demand that Mattell continue where Jakks left off, it's the only logical way to go for theirs and Mattel's profit and success, now Jakks will be making TNA figures the last thing WWE wants is for the entire huge fanbase of WWE figures to start getting into TNA because of the figures, I started watching WWE again after getting into CS then RAs, if TNA figures are the only figures that I can add to my 800+ collection then obviously my interest in TNA will grow and my interest in WWE will fade.

[Reddevilbigevil]

plasticsuperstar said:

I totally understand PJ's point about a completely new scale meaning people buying a new HHH,Cena etc but there's always new kids getting into WWE (look at how many repaints Jakks have made and sold) and there's always new wrestlers joining WWE so after a year there will be loads of figures that Jakks never made from the current roster. The thing I disagree about is adult collectors making up such a small percentage of sales, there are obviously more kids that have wrestling figures than adults that collect but most kids have a collection of 20-30 figures, I buy more than that every week, some weeks I buy more than double the average kids collection (from what I've seen with relatives, friends' kids and kids that sell their collections at bootfairs), I can guarantee that the people on this board bought more WWE figures in the last year than all the kids in the UK put together alot of which are the expensive IEs including 1/100s and other exclusives that kids don't even know about, so every adult collector probably equals about the same profit as 100+ kids. The CS line has only been successful because of adult collectors, kids may buy one or two but there's so many older collectors that have bought every single one with multiple doubles plus RAs/AD etc, I've spent over $15,000 in the last year on WWE figures, the average kid probably spends or has spent on him/her about $50-$100 a year on wrestling figures. There's other people on this forum that spend even more than me and if Mattell start a whole new scale then they will lose all those sales and there will be no more 1/100s, IEs etc. I'm sure that Mattell will have a new way of making the figures, they will probably have better articulation/better detail/more accessories etc but unless they go down the cartoony route, which is unlikely now real scan is available, then simply continuing the same scale will allow all the current market to continue spending, Jakks have built up a huge fanbase so Mattell would be insane to scrap that and start again by just selling to kids. Another Classic Line could never work because there isn't going to be any more figure collectors in the target age group that never heard about CS. So I think that Mattell would lose alot more sales from starting a whole new scale with a whole new fanbase of kids (who will always be there anyway and will buy WWE figures regardless) than the amount they would lose from the few people that wouldn't buy an updated version of a certain wrestler (I've seen kids mixing Hasbros, TTLs and RAs quite happily, I used to mix a few thumb wrestlers with my Hasbros so even if they change the scale it wouldn't necessarily mean kids would buy the same wrestlers again) If some people want to stop collecting when Mattell takes over that's fair enough but I can't see any reason why a change of scale would be good for anyone - collectors, Mattell and WWE would all benefit from the scale staying the same and most kids don't care either way. TBH I reckon WWE will demand that Mattell continue where Jakks left off, it's the only logical way to go for theirs and Mattel's profit and success, now Jakks will be making TNA figures the last thing WWE wants is for the entire huge fanbase of WWE figures to start getting into TNA because of the figures, I started watching WWE again after getting into CS then RAs, if TNA figures are the only figures that I can add to my 800+ collection then obviously my interest in TNA will grow and my interest in WWE will fade.

Don`t get me wrong, I didn`t say adult collectors make up a small margin, they make up a huge amount of action figure sales i`m just saying that Mattell does not care about collectors at all, and jeremy has this insane notion that he has to be the Superhero to collectors everywhere, I guess you have get notoriety somewhere? Mattell is going to direct the new WWE line to kids. Trust me, go to he-man.org and ask about jeremy and all you`ll hear is about how he lied to collectors and then just abandoned us at the most crucial time for Motu collectors, than i start collecting RA`s and find out who`s behind it. jeremy is an alright guy he just has to put his priorities into perspective and do what he says he gonna do. It`s all good for him to announce something, and we all know he has done this many times, and when it comes out it`s half as good as described, examples of this are exclusive Kane with a mask and no hair? real fur Gonzalez just to name a few. One thing i`m very happy about is that when Jakks loses this contract and have pumped out the last CS series, I will have the complete entire line MOC save for the 1/100`s and 1/20`s etc. I have ever exclusive that theres been more than 1800 of.