|
|
Post by JC Motors on Nov 24, 2020 18:02:00 GMT -5
A lot of people probably don't know this but John Candy was a heavy smoker
|
|
|
|
Post by The Brain on Nov 25, 2020 20:50:12 GMT -5
Hopefully one day they can restore the full cut.I'd buy it in a heartbeat
|
|
|
|
Post by drifter on Nov 25, 2020 21:18:52 GMT -5
A lot of people probably don't know this but John Candy was a heavy smoker I know one thing I heard, and I don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, it's sad. Apparently he had been trying to turn around his bad habits, eating better, and stopping smoking, but it was too little too late, and he died before he was able to turn his health around. |
|
|
|
Post by JC Motors on Nov 26, 2020 7:23:17 GMT -5
A lot of people probably don't know this but John Candy was a heavy smoker I know one thing I heard, and I don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, it's sad. Apparently he had been trying to turn around his bad habits, eating better, and stopping smoking, but it was too little too late, and he died before he was able to turn his health around. If he did that and managed to live, I wonder how he would do in today's Hollywood. |
|
|
|
Post by drifter on Nov 26, 2020 19:06:42 GMT -5
I know one thing I heard, and I don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, it's sad. Apparently he had been trying to turn around his bad habits, eating better, and stopping smoking, but it was too little too late, and he died before he was able to turn his health around. If he did that and managed to live, I wonder how he would do in today's Hollywood. I'm sure he would have been involved in some projects that his fellow Second City companions had done over the years. And who knows, this year would have been his 70th birthday, maybe he would have chosen to have just stepped away from the lime light, and have a quiet life at home. |
|
|
|
Post by K5 on Nov 27, 2020 10:03:12 GMT -5
my gf had never seen uncle buck...! needless to say, she quickly took to it, and we're both dying from laughter. he was truly a legend.
|
|
|
|
Post by The Brain on Nov 27, 2020 16:59:53 GMT -5
His daughter has said his character in Uncle Buck was just like how he was in real life. I believe that 100%
|
|
|
|
Post by Zigzag on Nov 28, 2020 13:34:38 GMT -5
Surprised no one's mentioned this yet. He was one of four Canadian comedians to have Saturday morning cartoons in the late 80s-early 90s (Martin Short, Rick Moranis, and Howie Mandel, also).
|
|
|
|
Post by Artie Kendall on Nov 29, 2020 9:55:24 GMT -5
Hopefully one day they can restore the full cut.I'd buy it in a heartbeat A fully restored cut probably won't ever happen. His family is against it. The cut footage might be restored one day and added on as bonus material for a home video release. Criterion currently has a working relationship with Paramount and when they released The Breakfast Club it had so much cut footage that it almost ran as long as the actual movie. My favorite John Candy stuff was his years on SCTV but if I had to pick a movie it would be Harry Crumb. I think had he lived he probably would have transitioned to directing and just maybe he would have been in a Christopher Guest movie. John had his issues. When he was depressed he turned to eating. He smoked a pack a day. He would drink. He did cocaine. All those things on top of the family history of heart condition and it was too much. And of course my favorite John Candy story is the Chevy Chase headlock story. |
|
|
|
Post by The Brain on Nov 29, 2020 18:53:42 GMT -5
Don't forget his cameo in the Wilbury Twist!
|
|
|
|
Post by Yambag Jones on Nov 29, 2020 20:49:50 GMT -5
There are few comedic actors better than John Candy. Very few duds on the resume.
|
|
What?
Mid-Carder
Joined on: Feb 15, 2020 10:12:36 GMT -5
Posts: 163
|
Post by What? on Dec 2, 2020 22:33:13 GMT -5
Is it true that Candy and Hughes had a falling out before Candy died?
|
|
|
|
Post by Artie Kendall on Dec 3, 2020 12:05:18 GMT -5
Is it true that Candy and Hughes had a falling out before Candy died? Unfortunately it's true. The breakdown started with Home Alone and by mid 93 Hughes was refusing to answer/return alls from Candy. This is a general timeline: - Home Alone - John Hughes asks Candy to do a cameo and take a low pay but take a percentage of the box office. Candy refused the box office percentage and said he would do it for the low pay -$414. On the set Candy was complaining about the pay openly but was still in good spirits with cast and crew. Home Alone turned out to be the big box office hit that Hughes was associated with. Candy lost out on millions by not taking the percentage. - Only the Lonely - Produced by Hughes, Candy caused issues when he found out Maureen O'Hara wasn't given her own trailer on set. Candy first refused to shoot until O'Hara got her own trailer. When Hughes and the studio refused, Candy gave his own trailer to O'Hara. Feeling that it would be embarrassing that the star of the movie didn't have a trailer, they gave in to Candys demand. - Home Alone 2 - Hughes goes to Candy about appearing as Gus again. Candy plays hardball is basically asking for a huge salary to make up for the low pay on Home Alone. Neither side gives in and Candy doesn't do the movie. - Dennis the Menace - Hughes is producing and goes to Candy about appearing. He again plays hardball about his salary. Again neither side gives in and he doesn't appear in the movie. This would be the last project Hughes asks Candy to do. By late 93 Candy is calling Hughes about projects and to see if they can work together again. Hughes stops taking his calls. Hughes was pretty much out of Hollywood in 94 and started becoming reclusive. |
|
|
|
Post by JC Motors on Dec 6, 2020 12:08:47 GMT -5
Is it true that Candy and Hughes had a falling out before Candy died? Unfortunately it's true. The breakdown started with Home Alone and by mid 93 Hughes was refusing to answer/return alls from Candy. This is a general timeline: - Home Alone - John Hughes asks Candy to do a cameo and take a low pay but take a percentage of the box office. Candy refused the box office percentage and said he would do it for the low pay -$414. On the set Candy was complaining about the pay openly but was still in good spirits with cast and crew. Home Alone turned out to be the big box office hit that Hughes was associated with. Candy lost out on millions by not taking the percentage. - Only the Lonely - Produced by Hughes, Candy caused issues when he found out Maureen O'Hara wasn't given her own trailer on set. Candy first refused to shoot until O'Hara got her own trailer. When Hughes and the studio refused, Candy gave his own trailer to O'Hara. Feeling that it would be embarrassing that the star of the movie didn't have a trailer, they gave in to Candys demand. - Home Alone 2 - Hughes goes to Candy about appearing as Gus again. Candy plays hardball is basically asking for a huge salary to make up for the low pay on Home Alone. Neither side gives in and Candy doesn't do the movie. - Dennis the Menace - Hughes is producing and goes to Candy about appearing. He again plays hardball about his salary. Again neither side gives in and he doesn't appear in the movie. This would be the last project Hughes asks Candy to do. By late 93 Candy is calling Hughes about projects and to see if they can work together again. Hughes stops taking his calls. Hughes was pretty much out of Hollywood in 94 and started becoming reclusive. Wow. I never knew that |
|
|
|
Post by Artie Kendall on Dec 6, 2020 15:38:05 GMT -5
It's just how Hughes was. He would love you one second but any kind of rejection and he would cut you off forever. Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hall both said at the time of John Hughes' death that they had not talked to him in 25 years even though they both reached out over the years. Both had started rejecting Hughes scripts in the late 80s as to avoid typecast and Hughes never forgave them. The only reason Ally Sheedy was in Only the Lonely was because Ringwald said she wanted more mature roles, so Hughes was basically saying "this could have been you". Candy though it was odd. He was telling friends that he had plans to buy a house near Hughes and they had all these ideas and projects. It wasn't that Candy rejected Hughes, any project Hughes brought to him he wanted to do. But because Candy seemed like he wouldn't just take the first offer, Hughes felt rejected. |
|
|
|
Post by JC Motors on Dec 6, 2020 17:22:54 GMT -5
It's just how Hughes was. He would love you one second but any kind of rejection and he would cut you off forever. Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hall both said at the time of John Hughes' death that they had not talked to him in 25 years even though they both reached out over the years. Both had started rejecting Hughes scripts in the late 80s as to avoid typecast and Hughes never forgave them. The only reason Ally Sheedy was in Only the Lonely was because Ringwald said she wanted more mature roles, so Hughes was basically saying "this could have been you". Candy though it was odd. He was telling friends that he had plans to buy a house near Hughes and they had all these ideas and projects. It wasn't that Candy rejected Hughes, any project Hughes brought to him he wanted to do. But because Candy seemed like he wouldn't just take the first offer, Hughes felt rejected. I really don't see how John Candy as Gus Polinski would fit into Home Alone 2. His character would be out of place in that movie. |
|
|
|
Post by drifter on Dec 6, 2020 17:37:04 GMT -5
It's just how Hughes was. He would love you one second but any kind of rejection and he would cut you off forever. Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hall both said at the time of John Hughes' death that they had not talked to him in 25 years even though they both reached out over the years. Both had started rejecting Hughes scripts in the late 80s as to avoid typecast and Hughes never forgave them. The only reason Ally Sheedy was in Only the Lonely was because Ringwald said she wanted more mature roles, so Hughes was basically saying "this could have been you". Candy though it was odd. He was telling friends that he had plans to buy a house near Hughes and they had all these ideas and projects. It wasn't that Candy rejected Hughes, any project Hughes brought to him he wanted to do. But because Candy seemed like he wouldn't just take the first offer, Hughes felt rejected. I really don't see how John Candy as Gus Polinski would fit into Home Alone 2. His character would be out of place in that movie. Sad to know that about Hughes and Candy. That story about his reaction to O'Hara not having her own trailer sounds like a classic Candy, standing up for a friend kind of move. It would have been stretch having his character show up, but I guess they could have done something along the lines of Kevin encountering him in New York and helping him in some way. But I agree it would have seemed a bit too forced. Then again, the sequel can be seen as a bit far fetched too, in that Kevin runs into Marv and Harry again nearly 800 mile away from the last time he encountered them, also away from his family, so with that maybe Gus popping up wouldn't have been that out there. I mean the guy did travel and the Polka King of the Mid-West may have been trying to expand his empire. |
|
|
|
Post by JC Motors on Dec 6, 2020 18:00:06 GMT -5
I really don't see how John Candy as Gus Polinski would fit into Home Alone 2. His character would be out of place in that movie. Sad to know that about Hughes and Candy. That story about his reaction to O'Hara not having her own trailer sounds like a classic Candy, standing up for a friend kind of move. It would have been stretch having his character show up, but I guess they could have done something along the lines of Kevin encountering him in New York and helping him in some way. But I agree it would have seemed a bit too forced. Then again, the sequel can be seen as a bit far fetched too, in that Kevin runs into Marv and Harry again nearly 800 mile away from the last time he encountered them, also away from his family, so with that maybe Gus popping up wouldn't have been that out there. I mean the guy did travel and the Polka King of the Mid-West may have been trying to expand his empire. Polka gigs really don't pay big bucks. I read on IMDB that Gus Polinski was based on Jan Lewan who called himself the Polka King. I don't know how John Hughes could possibly know who Jan Lewan even was since he was from my City in PA. He was well known on the polka scene but as I learned from the documentary, The Man that Would Be Polka King, which is about Jan Lewan, Polka gigs aren't big paying events. They might pay around $1k average for the event. Th |
|
|
|
Post by Zigzag on Dec 7, 2020 17:12:34 GMT -5
Sad to know that about Hughes and Candy. That story about his reaction to O'Hara not having her own trailer sounds like a classic Candy, standing up for a friend kind of move. It would have been stretch having his character show up, but I guess they could have done something along the lines of Kevin encountering him in New York and helping him in some way. But I agree it would have seemed a bit too forced. Then again, the sequel can be seen as a bit far fetched too, in that Kevin runs into Marv and Harry again nearly 800 mile away from the last time he encountered them, also away from his family, so with that maybe Gus popping up wouldn't have been that out there. I mean the guy did travel and the Polka King of the Mid-West may have been trying to expand his empire. Polka gigs really don't pay big bucks. I read on IMDB that Gus Polinski was based on Jan Lewan who called himself the Polka King. I don't know how John Hughes could possibly know who Jan Lewan even was since he was from my City in PA. He was well known on the polka scene but as I learned from the documentary, The Man that Would Be Polka King, which is about Jan Lewan, Polka gigs aren't big paying events. They might pay around $1k average for the event. Th Is that the same guy Jack Black played in a Netflix movie? To bring it back around to Mr. Candy, I always thought Lance Storm and Jack Black could do a PT&A remake. |
|
|
|
Post by JC Motors on Dec 7, 2020 19:06:43 GMT -5
Polka gigs really don't pay big bucks. I read on IMDB that Gus Polinski was based on Jan Lewan who called himself the Polka King. I don't know how John Hughes could possibly know who Jan Lewan even was since he was from my City in PA. He was well known on the polka scene but as I learned from the documentary, The Man that Would Be Polka King, which is about Jan Lewan, Polka gigs aren't big paying events. They might pay around $1k average for the event. Th Is that the same guy Jack Black played in a Netflix movie? To bring it back around to Mr. Candy, I always thought Lance Storm and Jack Black could do a PT&A remake. Yes. Jan Lewan is from my city. |
|
