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Post by Jack Specific on Feb 16, 2018 12:41:20 GMT -5
Target shooting/Hobby. Also home/self/family defense if it ever had to come to that. You don't need an AR-15 to defend yourself. If it ever came to a SHTF event than it may.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Feb 16, 2018 12:41:31 GMT -5
I think he is saying just in general. Jack aren’t you a mail man? Surprised they gave you one in case you go postal It's ok if he is referring to me. I just wanted to know if he was so I could reply as such. I am not offended or anything, it's not like that, lol. And no I am not a mailman. I would never go "postal". I am a very non-violent person. I don't even believe in killing animals, I don't eat meat. Never did drugs, I don't drink. The last thing I would want to happen is have it come to defending myself or my family and hurting someone, let alone killing someone. No responsible law abiding gun owner wants things to come to that. You aren’t a mailman? Weren’t you at one time or did something with the post office? Not to get off topic but I swear you did for some reason
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Post by K5 on Feb 16, 2018 12:56:22 GMT -5
I think he is saying just in general. Jack aren’t you a mail man? Surprised they gave you one in case you go postal It's ok if he is referring to me. I just wanted to know if he was so I could reply as such. I am not offended or anything, it's not like that, lol. And no I am not a mailman. I would never go "postal". I am a very non-violent person. I don't even believe in killing animals, I don't eat meat. Never did drugs, I don't drink. The last thing I would want to happen is have it come to defending myself or my family and hurting someone, let alone killing someone. No responsible law abiding gun owner wants things to come to that. what I don’t understand is, if your main prerogative is the protection of your children, then isn’t it clear that your children are much more likely to be harmed from a school gun shooting than a home invasion statistically? so more regulation and banning of some weapons would actually improve your children’s odds of safety...
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Post by Kyle on Feb 16, 2018 12:56:47 GMT -5
I think he is saying just in general. Jack aren’t you a mail man? Surprised they gave you one in case you go postal It's ok if he is referring to me. I just wanted to know if he was so I could reply as such. I am not offended or anything, it's not like that, lol. And no I am not a mailman. I would never go "postal". I am a very non-violent person. I don't even believe in killing animals, I don't eat meat. Never did drugs, I don't drink. The last thing I would want to happen is have it come to defending myself or my family and hurting someone, let alone killing someone. No responsible law abiding gun owner wants things to come to that. Those last 2 sentences are perfect. The only thought scarier than having to shoot an intruder is the intruder shooting me or my family.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 16, 2018 12:58:13 GMT -5
Not directing toward anybody, not trying to insult anyone, it's actually a post in which I hope conveys my empathy and concern for those who use the "self defense" reasoning.
I feel bad for those who live in such a state of fear or paranoia that they believe a machine gun is a necessity to defend themselves.
Would not hand guns and/or a shotgun suffice?
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Feb 16, 2018 13:06:19 GMT -5
Not directing toward anybody, not trying to insult anyone, it's actually a post in which I hope conveys my empathy and concern for those who use the "self defense" reasoning. I feel bad for those who live in such a state of fear or paranoia that they believe a machine gun is a necessity to defend themselves. Would not hand guns and/or a shotgun suffice? Believe it or not, in NJ when you sign up for a gun permit they give you a permit to buy a rifle. To buy a handgun is a separate permit and I believe harder to get
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Post by Jack Specific on Feb 16, 2018 13:14:40 GMT -5
Not directing toward anybody, not trying to insult anyone, it's actually a post in which I hope conveys my empathy and concern for those who use the "self defense" reasoning. I feel bad for those who live in such a state of fear or paranoia that they believe a machine gun is a necessity to defend themselves. Would not hand guns and/or a shotgun suffice? I don't even think anyone mentioned a fully automatic weapon being necessary for citizen defense. They are not even able to be acquired by the average citizen legally. An AR-15 is simply a semi-auto version of an M-16. Although an AR looks "Militaristic" and can be customized, it is much less powerful/damaging/less range than many other rifles out there that are used for hunting such as a 30/06. At close range even a shotgun will do way more damage. So depending on the scenario, such as your normal home defense which is at close range, a handgun or shotgun would be the correct choice.
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 16, 2018 13:18:00 GMT -5
Not directing toward anybody, not trying to insult anyone, it's actually a post in which I hope conveys my empathy and concern for those who use the "self defense" reasoning. I feel bad for those who live in such a state of fear or paranoia that they believe a machine gun is a necessity to defend themselves. Would not hand guns and/or a shotgun suffice? Believe it or not, in NJ when you sign up for a gun permit they give you a permit to buy a rifle. To buy a handgun is a separate permit and I believe harder to get Jets fan that lives in NJ? bruh... Lol
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Feb 16, 2018 13:29:27 GMT -5
Believe it or not, in NJ when you sign up for a gun permit they give you a permit to buy a rifle. To buy a handgun is a separate permit and I believe harder to get Jets fan that lives in NJ? bruh... Lol YUp lol where are you from
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 16, 2018 13:40:24 GMT -5
Jets fan that lives in NJ? bruh... Lol YUp lol where are you from I'm from San Diego. I've got bad experiences with you Jets fans invading the Q during the 04 playoffs. Lol!
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Feb 16, 2018 14:03:10 GMT -5
YUp lol where are you from I'm from San Diego. I've got bad experiences with you Jets fans invading the Q during the 04 playoffs. Lol! LOL we’re angels
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Post by T R W on Feb 16, 2018 14:08:01 GMT -5
Don't want them, don't need them. I think the 2nd amendment should be repealed and replaced with something that actually represents modern civilization.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 14:32:48 GMT -5
Don't want them, don't need them. I think the 2nd amendment should be repealed and replaced with something that actually represents modern civilization. So you’d reach for your phone and dial 911 in the hope they could get to you in time if there were armed invaders in your home? Or reach for your gun and defend yourself and your family? I know which I’d prefer
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Post by K5 on Feb 16, 2018 15:04:02 GMT -5
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 16, 2018 15:12:26 GMT -5
I don't think people having guns is the problem. I think the caliber of weapon is really the issue here. I know some people say "gun laws wouldn't prevent stuff like this because criminals don't obey laws"....
Here's the problem. When we examine all of these horrible mass shooting tragedies....99% of the time, the firearm was purchased LEGALLY, and the majority of the time it is this AR-15 style assault rifle.
I just really have a hard time wrapping my brain around why any individual would need to own an AR-15 assault rifle. To me, it seems grossly eccentric and unnecessary. The only time I've ever actually heard of one being used for self defense was the guy who used his assault rifle to shoot at the guy who shot up that church (with a legally purchased assault rifle).
I believe by limiting the caliber of weapon that people have access to, you lessen the amount of damage somebody can do if/when these individuals with mental health issues go on these shooting sprees. Handguns with the standard size magazines used by one individual is not going to do the type of damage that we see in these AR-15 style mass shootings.
And like I said....the fact that these weapons are ALWAYS purchased legally by the shooters....these are not your thugs, drug dealers and gangbangers buying unlicensed stuff off the street...not to be whatever, but it's always some upper-middle class person that goes nuts.
So I think people saying "we need assault rifles to defend ourselves against the CRIMINALS who have assault rifles.....", it does NOT seem as if the criminals HAVE assault rifles or even anything CLOSE! When is the last time ANYBODY heard of a crime (other than a mass shooting) where the criminal used an assault rifle? It's just not happening.
Yes, people could and would still attempt to shoot other people with handguns and shotguns, but at LEAST we would be able to limit the loss of life if assault rifles were not used. Instead of losing 17 people, maybe we would have lost 2 or 3. It doesn't fix the issue or negate the significance of the lives lost strictly based on the number....but we can't continue to blow each other away like this.
And obviously it goes without saying that anyone with a diagnosed mental health issue should never be able to have access to or purchase a firearm. In 2018 that should be common sense, but for some reason not everyone agrees.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Feb 16, 2018 15:27:29 GMT -5
Assault rifles are completely unnecessary. A hand gun would suffice for protection.
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Post by T R W on Feb 16, 2018 15:49:16 GMT -5
Don't want them, don't need them. I think the 2nd amendment should be repealed and replaced with something that actually represents modern civilization. So you’d reach for your phone and dial 911 in the hope they could get to you in time if there were armed invaders in your home? Or reach for your gun and defend yourself and your family? I know which I’d prefer Yes. I would prefer nobody have access to guns legally and that they were extremely hard to get to the point that even hard criminals would have trouble obtaining them. To be honest, I don't think I am any less likely to be murdered in a break in if I had to run to my gun safe, open it, load the gun, and then try to stop them than I am if I just grab a baseball bat.
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Post by Jack Specific on Feb 16, 2018 16:14:47 GMT -5
Don't want them, don't need them. I think the 2nd amendment should be repealed and replaced with something that actually represents modern civilization. So you’d reach for your phone and dial 911 in the hope they could get to you in time if there were armed invaders in your home? Or reach for your gun and defend yourself and your family? I know which I’d prefer Here in my neighborhood it is generally a good neighborhood and safe. However, forget the police or 911 here. 911 gets mad at you for bothering them and so do the police. Case and point... I saw someone trying to break into a house through a window across the way. I tried yelling to the guy to leave and that I am calling the police. He totally ignored me. I called 911 to report it and of course they had an attitude and asked me stupid questions (typical) and police either never came (typical) or they came way too late. Another example... Someone looked drunk or possibly mentally ill stumbling around on the BLVD busy with cars. Called 911 to do something. They gave me attitude as usual and told me they cannot do anything. Unreal. That is only a couple examples of how horrid they are here. You are basically on your own like the wild west. You cannot depend on police to help you, it's just an unfortunate fact of life with my police district and terrible uncaring and bad attitude 911 operators. No one will come, or if they decide to we'll all be dead by the time they come. Fact is, I am the protector of my family. It is MY duty. And there's no way I can stop anyone coming into my home with guns, knives, multiple criminals without having a firearm to defend myself & family. Hopefully it will never come to that. Hopefully criminals will pay attention to my warning signs that I have on my doors.
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 16, 2018 16:30:12 GMT -5
So you’d reach for your phone and dial 911 in the hope they could get to you in time if there were armed invaders in your home? Or reach for your gun and defend yourself and your family? I know which I’d prefer Here in my neighborhood it is generally a good neighborhood and safe. However, forget the police or 911 here. 911 gets mad at you for bothering them and so do the police. Case and point... I saw someone trying to break into a house through a window across the way. I tried yelling to the guy to leave and that I am calling the police. He totally ignored me. I called 911 to report it and of course they had an attitude and asked me stupid questions (typical) and police either never came (typical) or they came way too late. Another example... Someone looked drunk or possibly mentally ill stumbling around on the BLVD busy with cars. Called 911 to do something. They gave me attitude as usual and told me they cannot do anything. Unreal. That is only a couple examples of how horrid they are here. You are basically on your own like the wild west. You cannot depend on police to help you, it's just an unfortunate fact of life with my police district and terrible uncaring and bad attitude 911 operators. No one will come, or if they decide to we'll all be dead by the time they come. Fact is, I am the protector of my family. It is MY duty. And there's no way I can stop anyone coming into my home with guns, knives, multiple criminals without having a firearm to defend myself & family. Hopefully it will never come to that. Hopefully criminals will pay attention to my warning signs that I have on my doors. I'm sure they do see the signs. Just the mere presence can deter a crime in most banal cases.
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