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Post by Nick the Quick on Feb 18, 2018 14:20:43 GMT -5
I do not nor I have ever owned or purchased a gun, but at the same time I am not anti-gun. My views are the following.
Just because somebody can have a gun doesn't mean they should have one. Personally, I'm not going to buy one because I don't feel I have the need to. If a crazy with a gun shoots me, that's on them, not me. The problem is so many people live their lives in fear. The 2nd amendment talks about the right to bear arms and a well-trained militia. It doesn't say give anyone, regardless of their background, criminal record, and mentally capacity all the guns they want. Unfortunately, there's nothing that is going to change regardless of how many mass shootings occur. Far too many people are unwilling to compromise and work together, they want either very strict gun laws or no gun laws at all, neither is a good solution.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Feb 18, 2018 22:19:22 GMT -5
what are you on? Cops 100% shoot people. I’m done with you people, you left winged jack asses use no logic People like you are what’s wrong with this country. Mate i'm British, so i'm not what's wrong with your country, and just because i'm not a intellectually- disabled backwoods bigot doesn't mean i'm some left wing liberal jack-ass. Cops have shot like 40 people in the past 20 years here. People like YOU are the problem, people who think we should allow guns, a machine designed to kill people, have absolutely no rules because hey, it might come in handy if you thought you were James ing Bond. Guns should be banned, end of. Well said.
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Feb 19, 2018 9:51:48 GMT -5
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Feb 19, 2018 9:51:48 GMT -5
To all of you who want stricter gun laws or a gun ban, what will you have to say when these types of shootings still happen after a change of law/ban?
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Feb 19, 2018 10:00:58 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 19, 2018 10:00:58 GMT -5
To all of you who want stricter gun laws or a gun ban, what will you have to say when these types of shootings still happen after a change of law/ban? There’s nothing that makes this seem likely.
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Feb 19, 2018 10:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Feb 19, 2018 10:04:25 GMT -5
To all of you who want stricter gun laws or a gun ban, what will you have to say when these types of shootings still happen after a change of law/ban? There’s nothing that makes this seem likely. That’s a vague response. Feel free to expand a bit
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Feb 19, 2018 10:08:28 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 19, 2018 10:08:28 GMT -5
There’s nothing that makes this seem likely. That’s a vague response. Feel free to expand a bit There’s a narrative that these shooters would seek out a gun at any cost, but there’s nothing telling about their personalities that would indicate that. Also, getting a gun illegally is not as easy as some would make you think
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Feb 19, 2018 10:28:32 GMT -5
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Feb 19, 2018 10:28:32 GMT -5
That’s a vague response. Feel free to expand a bit There’s a narrative that these shooters would seek out a gun at any cost, but there’s nothing telling about their personalities that would indicate that. Also, getting a gun illegally is not as easy as some would make you think Nothing telling about their personalities? So you’re saying that someone who would shoot up a school or a club wouldn’t seek out a gun illegally? I’m not really buying into that. Also, getting illegal guns is not that hard. It’s a lot easier than you think. I work with a guy who was offered a hunting rifle for cheap in a dollar general store parking lot. Murder is a crime. It’s against the law. I just don’t understand how “laws” are going to make this issue go away.
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Post by Jack Specific on Feb 19, 2018 10:35:47 GMT -5
That’s a vague response. Feel free to expand a bit There’s a narrative that these shooters would seek out a gun at any cost, but there’s nothing telling about their personalities that would indicate that. Also, getting a gun illegally is not as easy as some would make you think In Philly it is very easy, I know of people who have done so. All it takes is a visit to a bad part of the city and the local drug dealer there. The only caveat is that it's more expensive. There is ZERO background checks that way. That is an unfortunate reality.
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Feb 19, 2018 10:42:55 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 19, 2018 10:42:55 GMT -5
There’s a narrative that these shooters would seek out a gun at any cost, but there’s nothing telling about their personalities that would indicate that. Also, getting a gun illegally is not as easy as some would make you think In Philly it is very easy, I know of people who have done so. All it takes is a visit to a bad part of the city and the local drug dealer there. The only caveat is that it's more expensive. There is ZERO background checks that way. That is an unfortunate reality. If you’re willfully by to do that and live in that sort of area, sure it’s easy. Most of these people suffer from all sorts of mental illnesses which in many cases makes them not want to get into that situation in order to buy a gun. Just because they shoot somewhere up, does not mean they have the balls to seek out an illegal weapon. If that were the case, most of these shootings would be done by a shooter with illegally bought run guns.
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Feb 19, 2018 10:44:52 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 19, 2018 10:44:52 GMT -5
There’s a narrative that these shooters would seek out a gun at any cost, but there’s nothing telling about their personalities that would indicate that. Also, getting a gun illegally is not as easy as some would make you think Nothing telling about their personalities? So you’re saying that someone who would shoot up a school or a club wouldn’t seek out a gun illegally? I’m not really buying into that. Also, getting illegal guns is not that hard. It’s a lot easier than you think. I work with a guy who was offered a hunting rifle for cheap in a dollar general store parking lot. Murder is a crime. It’s against the law. I just don’t understand how “laws” are going to make this issue go away. Yes, that’s what I’m saying. Most of these gunman are non-criminal until the shooting. It’s not as easy to just say “he’s crazy he would of went to the black market to buy a gun” They would rather do it the safe and easy way, not risk going to jail before their plans could even unfold
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 19, 2018 11:22:58 GMT -5
There’s a narrative that these shooters would seek out a gun at any cost, but there’s nothing telling about their personalities that would indicate that. Also, getting a gun illegally is not as easy as some would make you think Nothing telling about their personalities? So you’re saying that someone who would shoot up a school or a club wouldn’t seek out a gun illegally? I’m not really buying into that. Also, getting illegal guns is not that hard. It’s a lot easier than you think. I work with a guy who was offered a hunting rifle for cheap in a dollar general store parking lot. Murder is a crime. It’s against the law. I just don’t understand how “laws” are going to make this issue go away. What's the alternate here? All I've ever heard from your side is "laws won't stop this so let's not do anything."
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Feb 19, 2018 11:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Feb 19, 2018 11:48:34 GMT -5
Nothing telling about their personalities? So you’re saying that someone who would shoot up a school or a club wouldn’t seek out a gun illegally? I’m not really buying into that. Also, getting illegal guns is not that hard. It’s a lot easier than you think. I work with a guy who was offered a hunting rifle for cheap in a dollar general store parking lot. Murder is a crime. It’s against the law. I just don’t understand how “laws” are going to make this issue go away. What's the alternate here? All I've ever heard from your side is "laws won't stop this so let's not do anything." What’s the alternative for your side? All I ever see from you are snarky remarks about conservatives.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 19, 2018 12:51:49 GMT -5
What's the alternate here? All I've ever heard from your side is "laws won't stop this so let's not do anything." What’s the alternative for your side? All I ever see from you are snarky remarks about conservatives. Right, so you've got nothing. I don't know how I can be any more clear on this. Increased background checks. Ban mentally ill people from purchasing weapons. Ban large capacity magazines. We've been over this and over this and over this and over this and over this. Meanwhile, we've had more school shootings in less than two months than most countries have had in not than a decade.
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 19, 2018 13:06:47 GMT -5
Well, it was fun while it lasted.
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