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Feb 15, 2018 12:28:40 GMT -5
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 15, 2018 12:28:40 GMT -5
Okay, we were told we could have this thread, so here it is. Comment with your view on guns.
EDIT: To keep this topic open and not get warned or banned, keep this CIVIL. Debating = good. Opinions = good. Fighting, Arguing, Bashing others opinions = BAD. Thank you. JS
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Feb 15, 2018 12:45:52 GMT -5
Don’t care about them either way. My dad has always had his guns as Long as I was growing up. Never did anything or wanted me to go shoot people or anything. People make the guns out to be the bad thing but people just don’t care about the human life anymore. Look at why people get killed. Over sneakers, over girls, over other stupid things. If they made guns illegal it wouldn’t do much for the honest guy. Look at drugs. I don’t know where to get them, but if I was addicted to meth I’d probably be able to find some. Same with guns, if I’m an honest upstanding citizen I wouldn’t be able to get one, if I somehow needed one to go nuts, I’d be able to find one.
People have guns for all kind of things. Some people like to collect them, some people like them for protection in their home(hopefully most don’t need it), and hunting. People enjoy hunting and it is a sport to some. Some people still use hunting as means to eat. As crazy as it sounds, I did know a guy who hunted deer and would cut the meat up and freeze it and had it for like 6 months to a year. Said it was great savings at the food store.
Like I said earlier. I don’t think guns are the problem. It’s the world we live in. People that want to carry out mass killings will still do them. Pressure cooker bombs were used in Boston and NY, a truck was used a few times in NY. People just aren’t all there these days and it’s scary. I hope this thread can stay open and unlocked but I honestly have slim hopes for it.
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 15, 2018 12:50:30 GMT -5
Don’t care about them either way. My dad has always had his guns as Long as I was growing up. Never did anything or wanted me to go shoot people or anything. People make the guns out to be the bad thing but people just don’t care about the human life anymore. Look at why people get killed. Over sneakers, over girls, over other stupid things. If they made guns illegal it wouldn’t do much for the honest guy. Look at drugs. I don’t know where to get them, but if I was addicted to meth I’d probably be able to find some. Same with guns, if I’m an honest upstanding citizen I wouldn’t be able to get one, if I somehow needed one to go nuts, I’d be able to find one. People have guns for all kind of things. Some people like to collect them, some people like them for protection in their home(hopefully most don’t need it), and hunting. People enjoy hunting and it is a sport to some. Some people still use hunting as means to eat. As crazy as it sounds, I did know a guy who hunted deer and would cut the meat up and freeze it and had it for like 6 months to a year. Said it was great savings at the food store. Like I said earlier. I don’t think guns are the problem. It’s the world we live in. People that want to carry out mass killings will still do them. Pressure cooker bombs were used in Boston and NY, a truck was used a few times in NY. People just aren’t all there these days and it’s scary. I hope this thread can stay open and unlocked but I honestly have slim hopes for it. Never thought I could agree with a Jets fan lol!
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Feb 15, 2018 12:51:15 GMT -5
Don’t care about them either way. My dad has always had his guns as Long as I was growing up. Never did anything or wanted me to go shoot people or anything. People make the guns out to be the bad thing but people just don’t care about the human life anymore. Look at why people get killed. Over sneakers, over girls, over other stupid things. If they made guns illegal it wouldn’t do much for the honest guy. Look at drugs. I don’t know where to get them, but if I was addicted to meth I’d probably be able to find some. Same with guns, if I’m an honest upstanding citizen I wouldn’t be able to get one, if I somehow needed one to go nuts, I’d be able to find one. People have guns for all kind of things. Some people like to collect them, some people like them for protection in their home(hopefully most don’t need it), and hunting. People enjoy hunting and it is a sport to some. Some people still use hunting as means to eat. As crazy as it sounds, I did know a guy who hunted deer and would cut the meat up and freeze it and had it for like 6 months to a year. Said it was great savings at the food store. Like I said earlier. I don’t think guns are the problem. It’s the world we live in. People that want to carry out mass killings will still do them. Pressure cooker bombs were used in Boston and NY, a truck was used a few times in NY. People just aren’t all there these days and it’s scary. I hope this thread can stay open and unlocked but I honestly have slim hopes for it. Never thought I could agree with a Jets fan lol! Come on now. We aren’t alllll that bad
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 15, 2018 12:53:19 GMT -5
Childhood obesity is one of the leading causes of deaths in the US. We need to ban spoons.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Feb 15, 2018 12:58:21 GMT -5
Childhood obesity is one of the leading causes of deaths in the US. We need to ban spoons. Ok smartass then what do we do about sporks?
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 15, 2018 13:00:29 GMT -5
To be honest, I feel like this discussion has been had ad nauseum here and nothing has been gained. Just a bunch of people bitching about it on social media.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 13:01:53 GMT -5
Don’t ban guns, I would say the ownership of automatic assault rifles should be controlled a little better. I’m not sure what anyone would need one for. I don’t think it should just be someones right to own a gun but one should prove they are worthy in mental capability of owning guns.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 13:10:08 GMT -5
I'm not going to be able to fully partake in this thread for some time, hopefully, some people can touch on a few things I'd like to mention.
- The Second Amendment and its actual definition and meaning. - The Second Amendment on when it was written and the use of the type of guns then vs. what we have now, and why it is or is not OK. - Mental health playing the biggest part in mass shootings. The number of responsible gun owners vs. amount who have committed a serious crime. - Those who have committed crimes against how many have a mental illness. - Compromises of responsible gun owners could or should face that don't infringe on their rights.
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Post by drifter on Feb 15, 2018 13:16:47 GMT -5
The sad thing is, the gun debate, as with a lot of debates, is a large majority are either for one extreme or the other. The solution is not to either ban all guns, or give every one guns, it's somewhere in the middle. The way I look at it, with guns, the people that want to shout, we're guaranteed them by the 2nd amendment. Yes, but we also have the first amendment of free speech, but that doesn't mean you can say anything, at anytime at any place. And part of the thing that needs to be addressed, right along side of the gun problem is the mental health problem too. Part of the reason we get a lot of these shootings is because you have someone with mental problems, that are not having them addressed properly, and eventually, the sad thing of the shootings happen. But again, until we have people in charge that are willing to meet in the middle to solve the problems associated with gun violence, and not stick to the far side belief, whether it's 100% pro vs. 100% against, then nothing will change.
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 15, 2018 13:18:33 GMT -5
Guns, knives, whatever. I will never understand how a person can just murder another person.
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Post by snatch on Feb 15, 2018 13:42:27 GMT -5
I own 8 guns/rifles total. Obviously I’m pro gun.
Weather or not if they eventually get banned (highly doubtful). People will always find away to have them or make them.
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Post by bababooey on Feb 15, 2018 13:47:44 GMT -5
I don’t own a gun and probably would never buy one. But I do like watching videos and tv shows about guns. Just like how they’re made, how they perform, just the mechanics involved are fascinating.
I certainly understand the right to bare arms, but I do feel like there should be a limit on the type of power a legally purchased gun can be. I’m not going to pretend I’m smart enough to figure out the intricacies of what those levels should be. It just seems that the main issue with trying to come up with suitable gun control is we have extremists on either side debating where the meeting point should be, and both sides seem to get defensive about any suggestion other than what they think.
Likely most people that own guns fall into the category of responsible gun owners that are safe and reasonable, but as usual, one bad apple can spoil the bunch. Morons ruin everything for everyone.
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Post by Planktung on Feb 15, 2018 14:19:06 GMT -5
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Feb 15, 2018 14:34:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 14:34:47 GMT -5
Did he mean worldwide or just his own country?
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 15, 2018 14:36:15 GMT -5
I'm not going to go very deep into it, I'll just say that it's completely baffling to me that anybody can possibly think that the current gun laws and regulations in the US are good and don't need to be changed.
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Post by Greensborohill on Feb 15, 2018 14:39:50 GMT -5
There's no need for a civilian to own a automatic or semi-automatic weapon. The only reason those things were made were to kill humans at a faster rate. The argument is "I need to defend myself". Fine, hand guns, shot guns, rifles. No semi-automatic/automatics, no bump stock, etc.
Then the issue of "if they want to do it, they're going to do it". It doesn't absolve those in power to do something. Putting a ban on the auto/semi would push those things to the black market. It would increase demand, yes, but it would also push the price of it up to a point where a 20 YO kid just out of HS would have a difficult time affording or justify buying the weapon. Could he still shot up a school w/ a hand gone or rifle? Yes. Would the body count be significantly reduced? Yes.
And mental health? Sure, it obviously was a problem and was the reason he acted. Where are the laws for background checks to buy a AR-15? Shoot, I'd be okay if they split it and said you don't need one for hand guns but do for AR-15s. But thats not the case. In May, the government made it easier for the mentally ill to get their hands on guns.
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Feb 15, 2018 14:42:06 GMT -5
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Post by PJ on Feb 15, 2018 14:42:06 GMT -5
I'm not going to go very deep into it, I'll just say that it's completely baffling to me that anybody can possibly think that the current gun laws and regulations in the US are good and don't need to be changed. Sorry but it won’t change a thing. Because there will always be ways to beat the system. If anything it will probably make it worse because if someone wants a gun they’ll get it. And with stricter rules and regulations it will just make those willing to do these violent crimes more violent because with stricter rules they’ll feel like they have nothing to lose.
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Post by Greensborohill on Feb 15, 2018 14:43:47 GMT -5
I'm not going to go very deep into it, I'll just say that it's completely baffling to me that anybody can possibly think that the current gun laws and regulations in the US are good and don't need to be changed. Sorry but it won’t change a thing. Because there will always be ways to beat the system. If anything it will probably make it worse because if someone wants a gun they’ll get it. And with stricter rules and regulations it will just make those willing to do these violent crimes more violent because with stricter rules they’ll feel like they have nothing to lose. Your thoughts on why this only happens in the US?
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Post by johnnyb on Feb 15, 2018 14:45:00 GMT -5
LOL
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