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Post by JC Motors on May 23, 2014 16:54:28 GMT -5
Joel Schumacher is a hack. The only good film he directed was DC Cab |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 17:49:05 GMT -5
Joel Schumacher is a hack. The only good film he directed was DC Cab I thought a Time To Kill was a great movie. |
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Post by JC Motors on May 23, 2014 20:21:30 GMT -5
The only good film he directed was DC Cab I thought a Time To Kill was a great movie. The Number 23 was another good one |
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Post by Robert69 on May 23, 2014 20:29:23 GMT -5
I thought a Time To Kill was a great movie. The Number 23 was another good one Phone Booth. So much win in Phone Booth. |
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Post by JC Motors on May 23, 2014 20:30:16 GMT -5
The Number 23 was another good one Phone Booth. So much win in Phone Booth. I never saw it |
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Post by Robert69 on May 23, 2014 20:37:27 GMT -5
I still think Batman Forever is the worst Batman film ever made. How people can justify it is beyond me. It had even cheaper looking sets and effects than Batman and Robin and was just so much worse. I love Batman Forever. A few reasons: Carrey as Riddler was entertaining. Energetically over-the-top. I bought O'Donnell as Robin. He was at least somewhat a bad ass -- BnR made him a whiny lil brat. Kilmer is the closest we've gotten so far to pulling off BOTH Bats/Bruce Nicole Kidman is effing hot. "Kiss from a Rose" is STILL a classic song. Was still semi-serious, while embracing a live-action feel to the cartoon. The color palate they used was exceptional. There was enough of Burton's influence still in this one, while Schumacher's ideas worked their best. Had the scenes that were cut out remained -- and it had the dark tone it was originally meant too -- I still think it would be one of the top rated Bats films along with TDK and Batman Begins... |
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Post by Robert69 on May 23, 2014 20:39:21 GMT -5
Phone Booth. So much win in Phone Booth. I never saw it Kiefer Sutherland -- Colin Ferrell -- Forest Whitaker I highly, highly, HIGHLY recommend it. I didn't even know Schumacher Directed it until the last time I watched it, and still had to IMDb it, because I couldn't believe it. |
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Post by Robert69 on May 23, 2014 20:42:46 GMT -5
Flatliners, The Lost Boys, couple eps of House of Cards...
Schumacher is hardly a hack. He's got a few bad flicks to his name but -- pretty much everyone does.
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Post by Tye Hyll on May 23, 2014 21:09:37 GMT -5
Honestly every Batman movie before Nolan's were garbage IMO but Burton gets a pass because why not and Forever gets a pass because its not Batman and Robin but they were all really just terrible and yes I used to love them as a kid but I recently watched them and man what train wrecks.
I'm also not a Nolanite. His were very flawed as well and I also hate that it changed WB's vision to "Dark and Brooding for everything" But its still better than the rubber suits and penis shaped batmobiles
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Post by JC Motors on May 23, 2014 21:14:12 GMT -5
Flatliners, The Lost Boys, couple eps of House of Cards... Schumacher is hardly a hack. He's got a few bad flicks to his name but -- pretty much everyone does. Once you direct a bad movie like Batman and Robin, nobody will take your work seriously |
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Post by Word™ on May 23, 2014 21:24:30 GMT -5
According to reviews, other than Lost Boys.. Schumacher is definitely a hack. Nothing is special about his work.
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Post by Robert69 on May 23, 2014 21:39:27 GMT -5
According to reviews, other than Lost Boys.. Schumacher is definitely a hack. Nothing is special about his work. No accounting for their taste, I suppose. Best ever? No. Lot of gay innuendo? Certainly. But I wouldn't call him a hack. |
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Post by Word™ on May 23, 2014 21:50:06 GMT -5
According to reviews, other than Lost Boys.. Schumacher is definitely a hack. Nothing is special about his work. No accounting for their taste, I suppose. Best ever? No. Lot of gay innuendo? Certainly. But I wouldn't call him a hack. Who would you call a hack? |
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Post by Tye Hyll on May 23, 2014 22:06:16 GMT -5
Hack would be someone like David Goyer. Look at his film IMDB. Only thing that stands out is Batman Begins.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 23:22:46 GMT -5
Yeah, laughable as Batman and Robin was, I still don't completely fault Schumacher's directing talents.....the studio demanded the movie be a long toy commercial. I only really fault him for folding to they're will instead of waking out on the production. But had he done that they would have gotten an actual hack to step in to take over anyhow. There was no avoiding the film we ended up with.
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Post by Robert69 on May 23, 2014 23:31:46 GMT -5
No accounting for their taste, I suppose. Best ever? No. Lot of gay innuendo? Certainly. But I wouldn't call him a hack. Who would you call a hack? Uwe Boll. |
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Post by Robert69 on May 23, 2014 23:35:26 GMT -5
Yeah, laughable as Batman and Robin was, I still don't completely fault Schumacher's directing talents.....the studio demanded the movie be a long toy commercial. I only really fault him for folding to they're will instead of waking out on the production. But had he done that they would have gotten an actual hack to step in to take over anyhow. There was no avoiding the film we ended up with. Pretty much this. When the company comes to you and says "Hey, the last movie was too dark, too serious, we need you to lighten it up a bit -- you know, for the kids?" -- "...Uh, you mean Batman Forever was too dark?" "Yeah, yeah, we need to sell more toys!" Either you walk -- or you make the movie, and take your pay check. We were going to get the movie we got, regardless. This is the 90s we're talking about. Batman Forever was a damn fine snapshot of that decade's tastes...BnR was the snapshot of those tastes dying out... As for Goyer -- the dude has pissed me off lately with comments about She-Hulk, and "nerds" in general...but to call him a hack is almost hysterical. Sadly, there may not be a bigger writer in Hollywood right now. Whether we like it or not. (Thank God Affleck has his Argo writer doing the rewrite on BvS, that's all I'll say on that) |
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Post by Tye Hyll on May 23, 2014 23:58:04 GMT -5
No, seriously, look at Goyers work. He is a Hack. He wrote Batman Begins but didnt write Dark Knight which he is credited for. I cant say any other movie he has written has been very good either. Especially when it comes to comic book movies.
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Post by Robert69 on May 24, 2014 0:08:50 GMT -5
No, seriously, look at Goyers work. He is a Hack. He wrote Batman Begins but didnt write Dark Knight which he is credited for. I cant say any other movie he has written has been very good either. Especially when it comes to comic book movies. I can't imagine why his superhero flicks would be terrible...except, you know, maybe this bit of insight... www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/05/23/david_goyer_invents_a_new_origin_story_for_she_hulk_stan_lee_smacks_it.htmlBlockbusters are my main ambition as far as movies go...I'd be scared as hell if I got a Directing job and the guy that said all that was writing it... When you're that out of touch with fans -- and insult them. There's a problem. That said, I still like a lot of the movies he worked on, and TECHNICALLY he did have a hand in writing TDK...Nolan's brother just had to pretty much rewrite it, if I remember correctly. Just like Affleck is having the Argo writer do with BvS. I didn't say he was great at what he did. Just not a hack. When I think of a "hack" I think of the old "those who can, do; those who can't, teach" saying. Hacks don't get consistent work; whether we like their work or not. They have to be good at SOMETHING they do. |
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Post by Word™ on May 24, 2014 0:11:04 GMT -5
You coming back 2 hours later to get your point across bout David Goyer is one of the funniest things I've seen all week!
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