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Post by Tye Hyll on May 22, 2014 7:54:42 GMT -5
So David Goyer is a dick. I wish Warner would get rid of him. He is holding DC back so much in the film department...... WB is whats holding DC back in the movies department..... They have owned DC for 30 years and it took the success of Marvel Studios to wake them the f*ck up. I mean seriously.....they have had the home field advantage FOREVER and did zippo with it for years at a time. Now? they are pissing the bed trying to figure out how to catch up. And they lack the confidence that Paramount & Disney have in Marvel from the get go. I mean Avengers was given the greenlight BEFORE MS/Paramount/Disney knew how Cap & Thor had performed at the Box Office. WB would never have taken that risk......hence the reason they didn't world build in MOS. They refused to acknowledge the possibilities of anything until they seen MOS box office receipts. And while those were impressive? They obviously weren't impressive enough for WB.....their expectations are unrealistic following Nolans Dark Knight takes. As one analyst pointed out "Superman is a far bigger Pop icon than Iron Man was when he made his debut in 2008 but didn't match up to Tony financially".MOS didn't match the 1st(or second) IMs takings. Folks will tell you WB doesn't carte about that kind of thing but the moment IM3 became a monster it was bad news for WB....they had lost the battle of the brands before the summer started. Oh WB is absolutely the problem and one of the problems is making Goyer, a guy who is extremely disrespectful to comic book fans, the top guy. He wrote the screenplay for Batman Begins but hasn't exactly contributed much else of worth to comic book movies. He says Martian Manhunter is too stupid but Marvel is over there like lolz we have a talking tree and gun toting racoon. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 12:29:55 GMT -5
WB is whats holding DC back in the movies department..... They have owned DC for 30 years and it took the success of Marvel Studios to wake them the f*ck up. I mean seriously.....they have had the home field advantage FOREVER and did zippo with it for years at a time. Now? they are pissing the bed trying to figure out how to catch up. And they lack the confidence that Paramount & Disney have in Marvel from the get go. I mean Avengers was given the greenlight BEFORE MS/Paramount/Disney knew how Cap & Thor had performed at the Box Office. WB would never have taken that risk......hence the reason they didn't world build in MOS. They refused to acknowledge the possibilities of anything until they seen MOS box office receipts. And while those were impressive? They obviously weren't impressive enough for WB.....their expectations are unrealistic following Nolans Dark Knight takes. As one analyst pointed out "Superman is a far bigger Pop icon than Iron Man was when he made his debut in 2008 but didn't match up to Tony financially".MOS didn't match the 1st(or second) IMs takings. Folks will tell you WB doesn't carte about that kind of thing but the moment IM3 became a monster it was bad news for WB....they had lost the battle of the brands before the summer started. Oh WB is absolutely the problem and one of the problems is making Goyer, a guy who is extremely disrespectful to comic book fans, the top guy. He wrote the screenplay for Batman Begins but hasn't exactly contributed much else of worth to comic book movies. He says Martian Manhunter is too stupid but Marvel is over there like lolz we have a talking tree and gun toting racoon. Yup!! |
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Post by Word™ on May 22, 2014 18:51:07 GMT -5
WB is whats holding DC back in the movies department..... They have owned DC for 30 years and it took the success of Marvel Studios to wake them the f*ck up. I mean seriously.....they have had the home field advantage FOREVER and did zippo with it for years at a time. Now? they are pissing the bed trying to figure out how to catch up. And they lack the confidence that Paramount & Disney have in Marvel from the get go. I mean Avengers was given the greenlight BEFORE MS/Paramount/Disney knew how Cap & Thor had performed at the Box Office. WB would never have taken that risk......hence the reason they didn't world build in MOS. They refused to acknowledge the possibilities of anything until they seen MOS box office receipts. And while those were impressive? They obviously weren't impressive enough for WB.....their expectations are unrealistic following Nolans Dark Knight takes. As one analyst pointed out "Superman is a far bigger Pop icon than Iron Man was when he made his debut in 2008 but didn't match up to Tony financially".MOS didn't match the 1st(or second) IMs takings. Folks will tell you WB doesn't carte about that kind of thing but the moment IM3 became a monster it was bad news for WB....they had lost the battle of the brands before the summer started. Oh WB is absolutely the problem and one of the problems is making Goyer, a guy who is extremely disrespectful to comic book fans, the top guy. He wrote the screenplay for Batman Begins but hasn't exactly contributed much else of worth to comic book movies. He says Martian Manhunter is too stupid but Marvel is over there like lolz we have a talking tree and gun toting racoon. Exactly. Any comment Goyer or WB makes on a "comic character we don't think can work in movies", will officially become invalid come August 1st.. And for the rest of this comic movie boom period we are in, whenever WB or an associate of WB makes a ridiculous statement about a character not having appeal, or being to risky.. Someone will say "Marvel made a movie about a talking raccoon who's bestfriend is a walking tree played by Vin Diesel".. Warner Bros can no longer make that same old excuse, because it will now make them look incompetent. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 19:43:46 GMT -5
Too late on the competence front man!!
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Post by Tye Hyll on May 23, 2014 0:52:17 GMT -5
Also WB's excuse for no stand alone Wonder Woman film, "No one wants to see an action movie with a female lead", became invalidated when Catching Fire made more at the box office than, possibly, the most iconic superheros of all time, Superman. DC/Warner are running thin on excuses.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 5:25:42 GMT -5
Also WB's excuse for no stand alone Wonder Woman film, "No one wants to see an action movie with a female lead", became invalidated when Catching Fire made more at the box office than, possibly, the most iconic superheros of all time, Superman. DC/Warner are running thin on excuses. By f*ck that right there is a cracking point I haven't thought of. GREAT point man. |
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Post by JC Motors on May 23, 2014 10:59:09 GMT -5
Anyone remember what was supposed to be Batman Triumphant?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 11:45:24 GMT -5
Anyone remember what was supposed to be Batman Triumphant? Harley Quinn and Scarecrow wasn't it? |
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Post by JC Motors on May 23, 2014 12:10:36 GMT -5
Anyone remember what was supposed to be Batman Triumphant? Harley Quinn and Scarecrow wasn't it? I believe so. Madonna was supposed to play Harley Quinn |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 13:03:30 GMT -5
Harley Quinn and Scarecrow wasn't it? I believe so. Madonna was supposed to play Harley Quinn Nicholson was also to cameo as Joker during Bats fear gas induced hallucinations. pity it never went ahead...it was to return to the dark roots. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 14:08:28 GMT -5
I believe so. Madonna was supposed to play Harley Quinn Nicholson was also to cameo as Joker during Bsts fear gas induced hallucinations. pity it never went ahead...it was to return to the dark roots. It had an interesting premise for sure. Wasn't Quinn Jokers daughter out for revenge? |
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Post by Brad on May 23, 2014 14:08:51 GMT -5
I believe so. Madonna was supposed to play Harley Quinn Nicholson was also to cameo as Joker during Bsts fear gas induced hallucinations. pity it never went ahead...it was to return to the dark roots. When was that talked about? First I've heard of it. And Madonna as Harley Quinn? No thanks... |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 14:10:53 GMT -5
Nicholson was also to cameo as Joker during Bsts fear gas induced hallucinations. pity it never went ahead...it was to return to the dark roots. When was that talked about? First I've heard of it. And Madonna as Harley Quinn? No thanks... It was supposed to be the 5th Batman movie after the film that shall not be named. That film almost killed Batman films, hell it almost killed comic book films in general. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 14:17:43 GMT -5
Nicholson was also to cameo as Joker during Bsts fear gas induced hallucinations. pity it never went ahead...it was to return to the dark roots. It had an interesting premise for sure. Wasn't Quinn Jokers daughter out for revenge? And believe it or not, rumors of Howard Stern being considered as The Scarecrow. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 14:22:35 GMT -5
It had an interesting premise for sure. Wasn't Quinn Jokers daughter out for revenge? And believe it or not, rumors of Howard Stern being considered as The Scarecrow. Now THAT would of been something to see. |
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Post by JC Motors on May 23, 2014 15:01:35 GMT -5
I believe so. Madonna was supposed to play Harley Quinn Nicholson was also to cameo as Joker during Bsts fear gas induced hallucinations. pity it never went ahead...it was to return to the dark roots. Would Joel Schumacher have directed it? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 16:20:27 GMT -5
Nicholson was also to cameo as Joker during Bsts fear gas induced hallucinations. pity it never went ahead...it was to return to the dark roots. Would Joel Schumacher have directed it? As far as I know he would have. He was quoted as saying something like he felt he owed the fans a darker toned Batman Film after the what happened with Batman and Robin. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on May 23, 2014 16:24:53 GMT -5
I still think Batman Forever is the worst Batman film ever made. How people can justify it is beyond me. It had even cheaper looking sets and effects than Batman and Robin and was just so much worse.
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Post by Word™ on May 23, 2014 16:40:05 GMT -5
Joel Schumacher is a hack.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 16:42:51 GMT -5
This is the first I've heard of Batman Triumphant, thank god it didn't pan out.
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