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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 6, 2013 23:12:07 GMT -5
Another amazing episode. Thought we were gonna get more backstory about Oliver/Sara and him being on that ship at the end.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Nov 7, 2013 0:36:45 GMT -5
Great episode. Looks like we may get a few episodes without Sara, which while I'm a bit disappointed in, is ok I suppose, with being only a couple episodes away from Barry Allen's two episode arc, and the first mid season break after that, it makes sense if we don't see Sara until after the break.
The fight when Oliver and Sara went after the assassin, only to suddenly be outnumbered was cool, and the clocktower fight at the end was badass, nice to even see Detective Lance get a good moment there. Toned down on the flashbacks this episode, which sucks, but what happened on the ship is kind of the big mystery right now, so it makes sense to draw it out a little. Hell, if the next few episodes have no Sara in the present day, getting more of her in the flashbacks would be a nice counter to that.
Also, the remark about "The daughter of Ra's Al Ghul" was pretty interesting. I don't think we'll actually see him, as I doubt WB would allow it, but seeing Talia become one of the main villains of the season would be sweet, if they'd go there. Make her more in line with the character in the comics, instead of like she was in Dark Knight Rises. I don't think even that will happen, but would be awesome. I honestly could see the League of Assassins end up sending Slade after Oliver near the end of the season.
Also, I'm really, really hoping the russian vodka bottle, based off the label, leads to flashbacks involving Oliver and Richard Dragon. Not sure if many are familiar with him, but I think that would be cool as hell.
Also the acting in this episode, especially from the actor who plays Lance, was great.
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 7, 2013 9:06:42 GMT -5
Well, we'll only really get episodes without Sara in Starling City. We are about to (hopefully) see her in every episode as they work through the backstory on the boat. It was a good cliffhanger how they did it imo. That's the portion of the story I'm the most interested in right now, and they hooked me for next week with it (again), not that I wasn't going to watch anyway but still.
Lance seems to be headed towards becoming a member of the team. If he keeps Sara's secret and continues to work with the Arrow, then I think Ollie ends up trusting and revealing himself to Lance.
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Post by IRS on Nov 8, 2013 0:49:31 GMT -5
Loved this week's episode.
Shame that Sara likely will be gone for a little bit, at least in the present day, since I'm sure she'll still be in the flashbacks.
Thought the clock tower fight was awesome, and I'm kinda hoping to see Ollie reveal himself to Lance soon.
The Talia hint was great as well, can't wait to see where that leads.
Season two has just been amazing so far, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 13:11:45 GMT -5
does anyone else think Summer Glau may be Talia?or would that be too much like DKR?
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Post by Cameron Stone on Nov 14, 2013 3:29:32 GMT -5
I truly doubt that, and it would be an extreme case of dropping the ball. Isabel Rochev is already an actual character from the comics, so there is plenty to draw from there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 10:32:54 GMT -5
I truly doubt that, and it would be an extreme case of dropping the ball. Isabel Rochev is already an actual character from the comics, so there is plenty to draw from there. true enough. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 17, 2013 14:43:56 GMT -5
HUGE rumor being hinted at by Steve R. McQueen from Vampire Diaries. He has been tweeting hints that he is gonna be headed to Arrow as Nightwing..
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Post by PJ on Nov 17, 2013 17:38:51 GMT -5
If true I'm not sure how I feel about that. Ollie should be about Bruce's age so Nightwing wouldn't be around that early in either Bruce's or Ollie's careers. That said Nightwing is my second favorite character after Batman.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 17, 2013 19:08:13 GMT -5
If true I'm not sure how I feel about that. Ollie should be about Bruce's age so Nightwing wouldn't be around that early in either Bruce's or Ollie's careers. That said Nightwing is my second favorite character after Batman. Im ok with it if its something that just comes for a story arc. I dont want him to be a permanent member. Team Arrow is Ollie, Felicity and Diggle. I want it to remain that way. Huntress is supposed to be the same age range as Nightwing....so I guess it works in that respect. |
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Post by Cameron Stone on Nov 18, 2013 0:49:41 GMT -5
I actually like Nightwing/Dick Grayson more than Bruce Wayne in the comics, so I'd dig it. And in all honesty, this show is it's own mythology, if Nightwing is just going as a vigilante in Bludhaven without any mention of Batman, i'm 100% ok with that, as it would mean the addition of a cool character to the show. Bludhaven was mentioned in the first season, so I could see Oliver having to go there, and encountering Nightwing.
Though to be 100% honest, I seriosly doubt we will see Nightwing on the show, or even Steve McQueen. Though I hope I'm wrong. I really like him on Vampire Diaries, and I think he'd be really good as Nightwing
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Post by JL24FPS on Nov 18, 2013 15:11:44 GMT -5
I actually like Nightwing/Dick Grayson more than Bruce Wayne in the comics, so I'd dig it. And in all honesty, this show is it's own mythology, if Nightwing is just going as a vigilante in Bludhaven without any mention of Batman, i'm 100% ok with that, as it would mean the addition of a cool character to the show. Bludhaven was mentioned in the first season, so I could see Oliver having to go there, and encountering Nightwing. Though to be 100% honest, I seriosly doubt we will see Nightwing on the show, or even Steve McQueen. Though I hope I'm wrong. I really like him on Vampire Diaries, and I think he'd be really good as Nightwing I'm hoping they tie this show into the DC cinematic universe.. |
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Post by RAC on Nov 18, 2013 15:24:31 GMT -5
I actually like Nightwing/Dick Grayson more than Bruce Wayne in the comics, so I'd dig it. And in all honesty, this show is it's own mythology, if Nightwing is just going as a vigilante in Bludhaven without any mention of Batman, i'm 100% ok with that, as it would mean the addition of a cool character to the show. Bludhaven was mentioned in the first season, so I could see Oliver having to go there, and encountering Nightwing. Though to be 100% honest, I seriosly doubt we will see Nightwing on the show, or even Steve McQueen. Though I hope I'm wrong. I really like him on Vampire Diaries, and I think he'd be really good as Nightwing I'm hoping they tie this show into the DC cinematic universe.. They won't, they're going to keep their TV universe separate from their movie universe for some strange reason. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 19:12:46 GMT -5
I actually like Nightwing/Dick Grayson more than Bruce Wayne in the comics, so I'd dig it. And in all honesty, this show is it's own mythology, if Nightwing is just going as a vigilante in Bludhaven without any mention of Batman, i'm 100% ok with that, as it would mean the addition of a cool character to the show. Bludhaven was mentioned in the first season, so I could see Oliver having to go there, and encountering Nightwing. Though to be 100% honest, I seriosly doubt we will see Nightwing on the show, or even Steve McQueen. Though I hope I'm wrong. I really like him on Vampire Diaries, and I think he'd be really good as Nightwing I'm hoping they tie this show into the DC cinematic universe.. unlikely man.Unfortunately the internal structure of DC/WB media division doesn't seem to allow for logic of your type.which is an awful shame. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 18, 2013 19:16:03 GMT -5
Well its been discussed on several occasions of Amell being in the Justice League movie as Green Arrow. So I wouldnt say never. With the popularity of Arrow....it would be a mistake not to capitalize on it, adding it to the DC Movieverse.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Nov 19, 2013 23:34:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 19:11:16 GMT -5
Well its been discussed on several occasions of Amell being in the Justice League movie as Green Arrow. So I wouldnt say never. With the popularity of Arrow....it would be a mistake not to capitalize on it, adding it to the DC Movieverse. man I would love to see that,I really would. BUT they are bringing Flash/Barry and Nightwing in this series......while developing a Flash movie and Nightwing in Superman/Batman with different actors. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 20, 2013 19:50:35 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for my Smallville adapted Superman movie… (Which likely would have kicked the sh*t out of Superman Returns)
I do feel like Amell is the exception versus the rule though. If they were going to transition any of the comic verse TV actors to the big screen, I could see it being him. Plus, Green Arrow likely isn't getting a standalone film since Super Max was scrapped, or rather transitioned into what is now Arrow from what I gather. I don't understand why they wouldn't try and cross brand their properties, especially Arrow. Characters like GL and Green Arrow are a tier down from your typical Sups, Bats and Wonder Woman core, so it makes sense to expose those characters via the show and then elevate them to the big screen (In large part why I think GL didn't work because of the audience's unfamiliarity with the character). You only grow the character's brand in doing so and it directly helps build your TV viewership. That's as win-win as it gets. I digress, I know it's unlikely but it's certainly a head scratcher as to why the studio wouldn't want to make that jump.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 20, 2013 22:45:10 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for my Smallville adapted Superman movie… (Which likely would have kicked the sh*t out of Superman Returns) I do feel like Amell is the exception versus the rule though. If they were going to transition any of the comic verse TV actors to the big screen, I could see it being him. Plus, Green Arrow likely isn't getting a standalone film since Super Max was scrapped, or rather transitioned into what is now Arrow from what I gather. I don't understand why they wouldn't try and cross brand their properties, especially Arrow. Characters like GL and Green Arrow are a tier down from your typical Sups, Bats and Wonder Woman core, so it makes sense to expose those characters via the show and then elevate them to the big screen (In large part why I think GL didn't work because of the audience's unfamiliarity with the character). You only grow the character's brand in doing so and it directly helps build your TV viewership. That's as win-win as it gets. I digress, I know it's unlikely but it's certainly a head scratcher as to why the studio wouldn't want to make that jump. Superman and Batman are THE top 2 DC heroes. Everyone else is a tier or 2 down. I think you are underestimating Green Lantern and how powerful and important he is to the DC Universe. Wonder Woman and Green Lantern I would have on the same tier. Green Arrow would be a tier below them. I think the reason GL failed was not due to the audience being unfamiliar, but more b/c of the story they told and the look they went with. People crapall over Ryan Reynolds, which wasnt my #1 choice, but I thought he was did an ok job. The issue was the writing and visual. Mainstream audiences didnt buy it and comic nerds hated it. You basically alienated both sides. I think the chances for a Smallville movie went out the window once Nolan's Batman got established. I think DC wants to put a more adult spin on these heroes like they did with the recent Superman movie and Arrow show. Dont get me wrong, I loved Smallville, but it did have elements of being cartoonish. |
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