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Post by wfindonesia on Aug 11, 2011 10:00:10 GMT -5
well i kinda agree with this their prices getting more and more expensive i also can not accept those rubber shirt
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Post by wrestlingfan2011 on Aug 11, 2011 10:02:02 GMT -5
i dnt know why they say is no budget cause wht i see is that mattel wwe figures are the number 1 fig in the world that people buy and they get sell fast come on mattel stop making excuses and dnt say that the products u use for making the wwe figures is raising. stop being like jakks and think better cause wht i see is that there on mattel dnt have people who knows anything of wwe or wrestling
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Aug 11, 2011 10:32:49 GMT -5
i dnt know why they say is no budget cause wht i see is that mattel wwe figures are the number 1 fig in the world that people buy and they get sell fast come on mattel stop making excuses and dnt say that the products u use for making the wwe figures is raising. stop being like jakks and think better cause wht i see is that there on mattel dnt have people who knows anything of wwe or wrestling ill put money on it that transformers.. star wars .. and barbie sell a ton more than wwe mattel... so they arent the number 1 fig in the world...
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Post by skribbel24 on Aug 11, 2011 10:37:03 GMT -5
They're jakking around alright, with Mattel pricing.
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Post by steel on Aug 11, 2011 10:46:18 GMT -5
One other comment regarding the comparison of Jakks to Mattel...
It's almost 2 years now since Mattel took over the license and the global economy is in a COM PLETELY different place.
If you compare the timeframes of when Jakks first 2 years to that of Mattel, I think you will find that both companies shared the same enthusiasm and energy toward the line.
Plus if you go back and look at older posts, I'll bet you will find the same complaints there about Jakks that we are now hearing about Mattel. My point is that it is not a Jakks vs. Mattel argument..it's a "we want more for less" argument which is natural, from most consumers.
Comparing Jakks to Mattel isn't necessarily a fair fight, as the times have changed along with the financial picture and other variables involved in the equation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 10:50:14 GMT -5
Quit your crying. I swear no matter what they do you people will never be happy. summed up my feeling pretty much
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Post by Glovatrix-Brent on Aug 11, 2011 10:52:55 GMT -5
I'd rather have them with the gold finish than half painted like they are. WWE belt just has a few silver outlines and the W. The World title only had the front plate painted. Don't waste budget on tiny paint and just give them the gold finish.
I understand the Elite 10 thing because that set had 3 belts in it. But 11 had one belt and a rubber shirt.
Then again I would have been satisfied with Miz coming with the briefcase and nothing else anyway.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 11, 2011 10:56:59 GMT -5
i dnt know why they say is no budget cause wht i see is that mattel wwe figures are the number 1 fig in the world that people buy and they get sell fast come on mattel stop making excuses and dnt say that the products u use for making the wwe figures is raising. stop being like jakks and think better cause wht i see is that there on mattel dnt have people who knows anything of wwe or wrestling ill put money on it that transformers.. star wars .. and barbie sell a ton more than wwe mattel... so they arent the number 1 fig in the world... You can add Jakks UFC to that list. LOL@ Mattel WWE being the #1 figures in the world. They need to quit Jakking off and get Basic 12, Tag Teams 10 and Legends 6 in stores already.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Aug 11, 2011 11:06:40 GMT -5
Question for Mattel: If production costs are indeed the issue resulting in the running changes to the belts, lacking accessories etc. would it be feasible to remove these accessories including belts and sell them as a seperate item? This could potentially allow to lower the costs and recommended MSRP, helping collectors better afford the product, while enabling the retailers to also lower the sell price. I know the last part can be tricky, based on how TRU is currently pricing their Mattel WWE product, but it'w orth discussing. Community Members: Would the above be an acceptable compromise for you? Lowering the price for an Elite single, while providing belts and accessories seperately? Again, just looking for a reasonable compromise, without reducing quality on the figure itself, while keeping these affordable. That wouldn't work b/c sometimes they throw a belt in with a fig who might not sell as well to entice you to buy it just for the belt. Like Drew with the IC belt. I wish every fig would come with some belt. Practically every CS figure came with some type of belt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 11:19:00 GMT -5
I think a lot of people here aren't going to be happy even if Mattel does what they want. I love the elite line and will continue to collect it. I think the dull belts look a lot better than the shiny ones.
I also like the idea that this thread has spawned - Accessory packs. Mattel could release a set with Belts in as well as others with chairs, mics e.t.c and I know a lot of us would buy them as it would be an easy way to get the belts without ending up with multiple belts because they are released with several elites. This would also enable Mattel to perhaps continue with cloth shirts and maybe some other accessories unique to a specific figure.
I happen to think that Mattel was the best thing that has happened to the WWE line. And I'm glad that they take the time to do Q&A's with us to try and get the figures that WE want out there.
Mattel do their best for us, and not every collector is going to be happy with their choices, and I think we should respect the wonderful job they have done on their various lines.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 11, 2011 11:28:43 GMT -5
Question for Mattel: If production costs are indeed the issue resulting in the running changes to the belts, lacking accessories etc. would it be feasible to remove these accessories including belts and sell them as a seperate item? This could potentially allow to lower the costs and recommended MSRP, helping collectors better afford the product, while enabling the retailers to also lower the sell price. I know the last part can be tricky, based on how TRU is currently pricing their Mattel WWE product, but it'w orth discussing. Community Members: Would the above be an acceptable compromise for you? Lowering the price for an Elite single, while providing belts and accessories seperately? Again, just looking for a reasonable compromise, without reducing quality on the figure itself, while keeping these affordable. That wouldn't work b/c sometimes they throw a belt in with a fig who might not sell as well to entice you to buy it just for the belt. Like Drew with the IC belt. I wish every fig would come with some belt. Practically every CS figure came with some type of belt. Every fig should come with a belt. Ive only seen Elite Drew Mac in stores 4 times and 2 of those times, the IC belt was stolen.
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Post by xpac4life on Aug 11, 2011 11:33:25 GMT -5
here is why there cutting costs everywhere.... Ten years ago a California startup released a big-headed doll with pouty lips. Since then Mattel, maker of the iconic Barbie Doll, has been losing market share and embarassing itself with a legal battle that resulted today in a $310 million settlement against Mattel. It's clear now they should have responded to MGA's Bratz by revamping Barbie or introducing a new line. Instead they pursued a tenuous legal challenge, while Bratz took over the fashion doll market, selling 125 million dolls in its first five years. Mattel's lawsuit claims that Bratz creator Carter Bryant made the doll while working for them and broke the terms of his "invention agreement" by taking it to MGA. At first, a Riverside, Calif., jury agreed with Mattel, awarding it $100 million in 2008. Despite this brief victory, Barbie's US sales were down 21% that year. MGA fought back, and in a retrial, a jury decided "Mattel had not proved its claims of copyright infringement and instead found that the company had stolen trade secrets from MGA and owed it $88.5 million," reports the LA Times. Legal bills and the original punitive damages nearly put MGA out of business, so the company asked for more money after the April jury verdict. Yesterday, U.S. District Judge David O. Carter awarded that and then some, which amounted to a total of $310 million. Now, after a fierce legal battle that has cost both sides hundreds of millions in legal dollars, Mattel is paying MGA $310 million. And it could get worse for Mattel. MGA's CEO Isaac Larian said that this battle has cost "damaged the Bratz brand by an estimated $1 billion, and that MGA intended to recoup those losses in a separate and pending antitrust lawsuit against Mattel," reports the LA Times. Read more: www.businessinsider.com/bratz-mattel-lawsuit-2011-8#ixzz1Ujrie8uA
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Post by muccguy88 on Aug 11, 2011 11:39:42 GMT -5
I'm really disappointed by this thread. Everyone seems to forget that for about a year we didn't even have belts from Mattel. At least now we have them. I don't care if the belt it dull or shiny as long as the strap is good and snaps in easily. I think people really need to stop complaining about how shiny the belt is. People are also forgetting that these are accessories. To me at least, it's about the figure. If the figure is good the accessories are an added bonus. Take Elite 10 Yoshi Tatsu for example. No accessories at all, but I don't care because they were able to give him those awesome tights.
As for the rubber shirts go, I think a lot of people are just jumping on the bandwagon complaining about them. So far, we only have one rubber shirt actually released and people are acting like it's the worst thing that could happen. Personally, I think the rubber shirt works much better than cloth for the type of shirt Mysterio has. When they made a shirt like that out of cloth for HBK the sides kept rolling up, and other times the shirts just look odd like that. The Orton rubber shirt really doesn't look bad if you look at it right. At first, I thought it was bulky but looked at it again and realized it is actually pretty cool. Maybe the rubber shirts could even have designs on the backs of the shirts since they don't have to worry about the velcro being in the way.
I also find it funny that a lot of people are saying to cut a figure out of each series, but those were probably the same people screaming that we are getting less legends. Personally, I want as many figures as possible. People are getting spoiled and forgetting that Mattel's main focus is making figures, not shiny belts. Be happy you are getting great figures. People have been saying that at least Jakks always gave good accessories. You forget how many details were missing from the Jakks figures and how often the parts were all screwed up. We should also mention that Mattel has gotten all the figures into scale which is something Jakks still can't figure out.
At this point, I'm just hoping some of the responses in this thread haven't ruined out interaction with Mattel.
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Post by The Highwayman on Aug 11, 2011 11:40:55 GMT -5
The ignorance in this thread is absolutely staggering. ---And I'm just going to throw this one out there, you people that are coming off as hostile need to chill out, and reword your statements in a mature and adult way. Mattel does NOT have to be involved with this forum, as far as I am concerned you should all treat it as a privilege that they're here and interact with us. It's fine to disagree and ask questions, but you really need to chill out and at least come off as somewhat respectful if you honestly want Mattel around here. This. This. And more this. There is a reason Bill hasn't posted in this thread. He takes time out of his schedule to come give us whatever extra info he can and a bunch of people come here and rip him apart. Chill out and just enjoy the fact that Mattel has given us: Scale Detail Variety Good and related accessories (see Jakks DA for what Jakks gave us) Chill out and perhaps approach your problems in a more mature way... Then, perhaps you'll get an answer. Don't attack one of the people that actually take the time to hear us out.
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Post by thereisnoart on Aug 11, 2011 11:41:29 GMT -5
ill put money on it that transformers.. star wars .. and barbie sell a ton more than wwe mattel... so they arent the number 1 fig in the world... You can add Jakks UFC to that list. LOL@ Mattel WWE being the #1 figures in the world. They need to quit Jakking off and get Basic 12, Tag Teams 10 and Legends 6 in stores already. Source: www.variety.com/article/VR1118041177"While merchandise associated with Marvel's and DC's superheroes and films like "Transformers" command major attention in toy aisles each year, the top-selling action figures are not movie characters but WWE's wrestlers." ... "In the first half of 2011, WWE's action figures top the category, beating "Batman," "Iron Man," "Spider-Man," G.I. Joe and "Ben 10" figures, according to NPD." ------------------------------------- If you still want to "put money on it", I'll send you my Paypal address.
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Post by TheEdgeHead41 on Aug 11, 2011 11:44:47 GMT -5
The ignorance in this thread is absolutely staggering. ---And I'm just going to throw this one out there, you people that are coming off as hostile need to chill out, and reword your statements in a mature and adult way. Mattel does NOT have to be involved with this forum, as far as I am concerned you should all treat it as a privilege that they're here and interact with us. It's fine to disagree and ask questions, but you really need to chill out and at least come off as somewhat respectful if you honestly want Mattel around here. Exactly what i was going to say. Everyone was bitching that the cloth shirts were staining figures so they fixed it with the rubber shirts. People were complaining there were no belts now we are getting them and people are bitching about the painting on them or the shininess. Honestly they could be a ton worse. Plus look at the amount of accessories in the Elite 11 line i think it by far has the most accessories of any single series so if it wasn't in the budget to do the metalization process on the belt it is understandable. Here are the accessories in Elite 11 alone 2 Nexus Arm bands 4 Completely different Cloth Shirts 1 Rubber Shirt 1 Hat 1 Necklace 1 Mask 1 WWE Title 1 Briefcase That is 12 accessories including 11 unique ones in the lineup. Thats an average of 2 accessories per figure which is a ton compared to some of the other elite lineups. Also as adambomb said Mattel doesn't have to come here and you people being hostile might drive them away which will hurt the community even more than a dull belt or 2. Because honestly they do listen but i wouldn't blame them one bit if they stopped coming here for the fact that people on here really don't appreciate the fact that they come on here and interact with the members on this board. Exactly, I haven't complained about the accesories yet, because IMO there's nothing to complain about. Like you stated theres 12 accessories for 6 figures. 12 ing accessories, yet people still complain. The rubber shirt on Rey really doesn't look bad, and the dull belts aren't that bad either. I think the dull belts are still better than any of the belts we got from Jakks. Mattel spoiled us for over a year and a half and now that they make the accessories a little bit different you bitch, and people are saying "If this continues, I'm not buying anymore." Seriously, some people just need to grow up.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Aug 11, 2011 11:47:01 GMT -5
I'm really disappointed by this thread. Everyone seems to forget that for about a year we didn't even have belts from Mattel. At least now we have them. I don't care if the belt it dull or shiny as long as the strap is good and snaps in easily. I think people really need to stop complaining about how shiny the belt is. People are also forgetting that these are accessories. To me at least, it's about the figure. If the figure is good the accessories are an added bonus. Take Elite 10 Yoshi Tatsu for example. No accessories at all, but I don't care because they were able to give him those awesome tights. As for the rubber shirts go, I think a lot of people are just jumping on the bandwagon complaining about them. So far, we only have one rubber shirt actually released and people are acting like it's the worst thing that could happen. Personally, I think the rubber shirt works much better than cloth for the type of shirt Mysterio has. When they made a shirt like that out of cloth for HBK the sides kept rolling up, and other times the shirts just look odd like that. The Orton rubber shirt really doesn't look bad if you look at it right. At first, I thought it was bulky but looked at it again and realized it is actually pretty cool. Maybe the rubber shirts could even have designs on the backs of the shirts since they don't have to worry about the velcro being in the way. I also find it funny that a lot of people are saying to cut a figure out of each series, but those were probably the same people screaming that we are getting less legends. Personally, I want as many figures as possible. People are getting spoiled and forgetting that Mattel's main focus is making figures, not shiny belts. Be happy you are getting great figures. People have been saying that at least Jakks always gave good accessories. You forget how many details were missing from the Jakks figures and how often the parts were all screwed up. We should also mention that Mattel has gotten all the figures into scale which is something Jakks still can't figure out. At this point, I'm just hoping some of the responses in this thread haven't ruined out interaction with Mattel. Yea but look at it this we way. We finally do get belts and they look great. Then they change the belt to lesser quality. They should have just given us the uglier looking belts first and no one would have complained. But because we already know they can do better, which they clearly showed us, why would we settle for less? Ppl need to stop kissing mattel's a**, yes be respectful and make ur points but no need act like ur getting ready to take mattel out to dinner and movie. It's ok to voice your concerns and dislikes. Ppl act like there's something wrong with that. It's not b*tching its constructive criticism that I think Mattel welcomes more than most think.
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Post by juicewinslow on Aug 11, 2011 11:50:12 GMT -5
You can add Jakks UFC to that list. LOL@ Mattel WWE being the #1 figures in the world. They need to quit Jakking off and get Basic 12, Tag Teams 10 and Legends 6 in stores already. Source: www.variety.com/article/VR1118041177"While merchandise associated with Marvel's and DC's superheroes and films like "Transformers" command major attention in toy aisles each year, the top-selling action figures are not movie characters but WWE's wrestlers." ... "In the first half of 2011, WWE's action figures top the category, beating "Batman," "Iron Man," "Spider-Man," G.I. Joe and "Ben 10" figures, according to NPD." ------------------------------------- If you still want to "put money on it", I'll send you my Paypal address. BURN! lol.
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Post by muccguy88 on Aug 11, 2011 11:51:44 GMT -5
I'm really disappointed by this thread. Everyone seems to forget that for about a year we didn't even have belts from Mattel. At least now we have them. I don't care if the belt it dull or shiny as long as the strap is good and snaps in easily. I think people really need to stop complaining about how shiny the belt is. People are also forgetting that these are accessories. To me at least, it's about the figure. If the figure is good the accessories are an added bonus. Take Elite 10 Yoshi Tatsu for example. No accessories at all, but I don't care because they were able to give him those awesome tights. As for the rubber shirts go, I think a lot of people are just jumping on the bandwagon complaining about them. So far, we only have one rubber shirt actually released and people are acting like it's the worst thing that could happen. Personally, I think the rubber shirt works much better than cloth for the type of shirt Mysterio has. When they made a shirt like that out of cloth for HBK the sides kept rolling up, and other times the shirts just look odd like that. The Orton rubber shirt really doesn't look bad if you look at it right. At first, I thought it was bulky but looked at it again and realized it is actually pretty cool. Maybe the rubber shirts could even have designs on the backs of the shirts since they don't have to worry about the velcro being in the way. I also find it funny that a lot of people are saying to cut a figure out of each series, but those were probably the same people screaming that we are getting less legends. Personally, I want as many figures as possible. People are getting spoiled and forgetting that Mattel's main focus is making figures, not shiny belts. Be happy you are getting great figures. People have been saying that at least Jakks always gave good accessories. You forget how many details were missing from the Jakks figures and how often the parts were all screwed up. We should also mention that Mattel has gotten all the figures into scale which is something Jakks still can't figure out. At this point, I'm just hoping some of the responses in this thread haven't ruined out interaction with Mattel. Yea but look at it this we way. We finally do get belts and they look great. Then they change the belt to lesser quality. They should have just given us the uglier looking belts first and no one would have complained. But because we already know they can do better, which they clearly showed us, why would we settle for less? Ppl need to stop kissing mattel's a**, yes be respectful and make ur points but no need act like ur getting ready to take mattel out to dinner and movie. It's ok to voice your concerns and dislikes. Ppl act like there's something wrong with that. It's not b*tching its constructive criticism that I think Mattel welcomes more than most think. Constructive criticism is absolutely fine. It's just that some people here sound like they are trying to get an angry mob together and start a revolt against Mattel. And when you say that Mattel should have just given us the dull belts in the first place you are settling. By saying that you are saying that even though Mattel could have given us shiny belts they should have given us the dull ones so we wouldn't expect the shiny ones.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Aug 11, 2011 11:57:06 GMT -5
Yea but look at it this we way. We finally do get belts and they look great. Then they change the belt to lesser quality. They should have just given us the uglier looking belts first and no one would have complained. But because we already know they can do better, which they clearly showed us, why would we settle for less? Ppl need to stop kissing mattel's a**, yes be respectful and make ur points but no need act like ur getting ready to take mattel out to dinner and movie. It's ok to voice your concerns and dislikes. Ppl act like there's something wrong with that. It's not b*tching its constructive criticism that I think Mattel welcomes more than most think. Constructive criticism is absolutely fine. It's just that some people here sound like they are trying to get an angry mob together and start a revolt against Mattel. And when you say that Mattel should have just given us the dull belts in the first place you are settling. By saying that you are saying that even though Mattel could have given us shiny belts they should have given us the dull ones so we wouldn't expect the shiny ones. I disagree with that. Had they given us the nonshiny belts we wouldn't have known any better and been fine with it. But b/c they have already produced a better product and you know its available thats settling. Big diff. I agree some ppl are getting upset and going a little extreme but if that's their way of expressing how they feel I have no problem with it.
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