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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 30, 2007 15:35:11 GMT -5
Come down from your Yankee treehouse Thug, Gagne has stated he wants to close and he will turn down trades to any team he will not close aka both NY teams. He is not going to be dealt anyways.
If the Rangers could get Delcarmen for Gagne, they'd do that in a heartbeat.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 30, 2007 15:38:07 GMT -5
Check your facts, Ralpho. The only teams on his list that he can't veto a trade to that are currently contenders are the Yankees and Mets. If the Rangers want to deal him to Boston, he needs to approve it.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 30, 2007 15:40:13 GMT -5
You know it is nothing personal right? He picks 5 teams at random he can block, he was going to sign in Boston so I doubt he hates it so much, but check your facts thug HE WANTS TO CLOSE AND HE HAS NO TRADE PROTECTION WHICH MEANS:
He has 5 teams he can pick to not go to, and he can still veto any deal or else if hes traded his options get picked up and what not, so if hes traded he wants to CLOSE.
He isnt closing in NY. Again, not everyone wants to be a Yankee.
Albert Pujols does though
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Post by Mac Miller on Jul 30, 2007 15:45:34 GMT -5
Yeah I heard about the Farnsworth/Posada thing. Its not Torres fault he sucks, he doesnt deserve to be used in the 8th, it was his role to lose and he lost it. If he went out and threw scoreless innings hed get it back, but hes lost everyones trust.
According to a source the Orioles asked Brian Cashman about Kei Igawa and he said he wasnt availble.
Good. I would rather have Igawa in AAA to straighten himself out then give up on him. I think a big part of it is hes trying to hard and overthinking starts. Hes too young to give up on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2007 15:49:13 GMT -5
The Red Sox won't get Gagne...he has a list of only specific teams he's willing to accept a trade to in his contract, and the only contenders on that list are the Mets and Yankees. Apparently, the Rangers have lowered their asking price and are no longer asking Cashman for Hughes, Chamberlain, or Kenendy, but we'll see what happens. thats just stupid......to think that at this point in the season any player would "turn down" the opportunity to be traded to Boston is just crazy. The Red Sox as of right now are the only team that has a LOCK on the playoffs, if somebody is looking to be traded to a contender with the hopes of winning the world series....there is no more of a sure-thing than the Red Sox, because nobody else is a lock to make the playoffs. fu. dafilthymofo sure has confidence. he says the yanks are going to win the division. 110%!!?!?!!!!1 |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 30, 2007 15:50:27 GMT -5
Gagne wants to close so he can make a ton of money and get his value back up, if he continues to pitch this well in Texas he is in for a HUGE payday.
He wants a ring, but ideally, he'd want it from the Tigers or Indians at the back of the pen.
Hes a Boras guy folks
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Post by Mac Miller on Jul 30, 2007 15:56:10 GMT -5
No matter how back Jones sucks, the Tigers refuse to remove him from the closer position. So he wouldnt get to close there either.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 30, 2007 15:58:12 GMT -5
Im just throwing out 2 teams that have weak closer positions but will be in playoff contention
Removing Wickman for Gagne is scary stupid
Wagner is not moving
Papelbon is not moving
Rivera is not moving
K-Rod is not moving
Hoffman is not moving
Saito....maybe? Doubt he'd ever go back to LA
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Post by Mac Miller on Jul 30, 2007 16:01:54 GMT -5
Yeah I laughed at the idea of him going back to the AL. Removing Borowski (SP?) for Gagne is a good idea but I dont see the Indians doing it. Borowski would be a softer throwing Farnsworth in a set-up role.
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Post by Nash on Jul 30, 2007 16:02:38 GMT -5
Im just throwing out 2 teams that have weak closer positions but will be in playoff contention Removing Wickman for Gagne is scary stupid Wagner is not moving Papelbon is not moving Rivera is not moving K-Rod is not moving Hoffman is not moving Saito....maybe? Doubt he'd ever go back to LA Cubs. Dempster is not too good and unless Wood takes the spot which isn't very likely, they could be a possibility. |
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Post by bjd on Jul 30, 2007 16:02:39 GMT -5
If the Rangers are going to trade Gagne, he is not closing for anyone except possibly Detroit, Philly, Chicago(Cubs), D-Backs. All of the other contenders pretty much have their closer solidified... I don't see him being moved to close. He signed a one year deal... and thats what you take when you sign such a deal, you know if the team that signs you is out of contention they are going to try to move you... I do see him getting moved, but he is not going to be a closer again until next season. He'll have to suck it up and deal with it.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 30, 2007 16:05:05 GMT -5
Thats what the no trade protection is for, Boras is no fool. He knows pitching lights out for a crappy team in Texas will be better for his value than being a 7th inning guy for the Yankees or Mets.
He wont get moved, the Linebrink trade made relivers too much. Dotel will go but thats about it
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Post by bjd on Jul 30, 2007 16:11:57 GMT -5
Being lights out as a reliever in general will raise your value. He was doing it in Texas, people know Texas is a hitter friendly park... if he goes to a big market like NY, Boston, or Cali in a pressure situation, and gets big outs down the stretch, he is going to make his money regardless of what inning he pitches in.
You forget- this is a man who pitched TWO innings last season, and 13 1/3 the year before that. His reward? 6 Million dollars from the Rangers. He is still near his prime at 31 years old. He still has filthy stuff, and is having a nice year for Texas... he will get his money regardless. If you can get 6 million dollars guaranteed after doing NOTHING the year before, I'm sure he has already earned himself 8-10+.
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Post by tim on Jul 30, 2007 16:12:00 GMT -5
i honestly did not know that octavio dotel had a job anymore; much less, that he was a desired player
and good call jimmy, the phillies are prepared to keep it on the downlohse
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Post by doogle on Jul 30, 2007 16:13:05 GMT -5
Im just throwing out 2 teams that have weak closer positions but will be in playoff contention Removing Wickman for Gagne is scary stupid Wagner is not moving Papelbon is not moving Rivera is not moving K-Rod is not moving Hoffman is not moving Saito....maybe? Doubt he'd ever go back to LA I'm sorry...how on earth is removing Wickman for Gagne scary stupid...I wanna hear these reasons. |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 30, 2007 16:13:55 GMT -5
I dunno WOJC, I am going to disagree but we will see tomorrow. I dont think he gets moved, unless some team just goes nuts on him.
Dotel and Gagne have huge question marks, if a team wants to deal 3 good prospects for them, they can have them but the Linebrink was a bad move, and Gagne and Dotel probably will be too
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 30, 2007 16:14:53 GMT -5
Im just throwing out 2 teams that have weak closer positions but will be in playoff contention Removing Wickman for Gagne is scary stupid Wagner is not moving Papelbon is not moving Rivera is not moving K-Rod is not moving Hoffman is not moving Saito....maybe? Doubt he'd ever go back to LA I'm sorry...how on earth is removing Wickman for Gagne scary stupid...I wanna hear these reasons. I meant to write silly, and the only reason for it being silly is: 1. It will take too much to get him 2. Wickman kinda sucks but its working, if anyone were to get the job it'd be Soriano. Thats 2 reasons, so what |
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Post by tim on Jul 30, 2007 16:14:56 GMT -5
Being lights out as a reliever in general will raise your value. He was doing it in Texas, people know Texas is a hitter friendly park... if he goes to a big market like NY, Boston, or Cali in a pressure situation, and gets big outs down the stretch, he is going to make his money regardless of what inning he pitches in. You forget- this is a man who pitched TWO innings last season, and 13 1/3 the year before that. His reward? 6 Million dollars from the Rangers. He is still near his prime at 31 years old. He still has filthy stuff, and is having a nice year for Texas... he will get his money regardless. If you can get 6 million dollars guaranteed after doing NOTHING the year before, I'm sure he has already earned himself 8-10+. if you love him so much why dont you just marry him  actually why dont you just trade for him in nick's OOTP, i'll give you gagne and a prospect for angel villalona ;D |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 30, 2007 16:43:41 GMT -5
According to the Kansas City Star, the Royals will acquire Kyle Davies from the Braves for Octavio Dotel.
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Post by T R W on Jul 30, 2007 16:47:04 GMT -5
rip kyle davies
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