WF Fall Brawl

[mike]

Maniwa - Much cleaner and the parts are better.

GCS - His is much cleaner, I hate the torso on the Christian fig its like still cracked.

GCS - TCKD used printouts and GCS's is great.

ROZZ - WD2's Mortis looks great but I like the Max Moon better, the sulpting is amazing on it and its a great custom all around.

Jay - I like the part choices better, and I don't really like Bartman's head.

Gore - Better custom all around, I don't like HR2X's head and I love what Gore did to the shorts.

Famous J - The heads great and its so clean, I dont like the modding on Jay's.

[gatecitysinner]

---Official Score Card---

Nick vs Angus
Nick- 8
Angus-1

Gatecitysinner vs TCKDEEN 1
GCS- 8
DEEN-

Gatecitysinner vs TCKDEEN 2
GCS- 5
DEEN- 3

whydraft2 vs ROZZ
whydraft2- 2
Rozz- 8

Bartman vs Jay
Bartman-1
Jay- 8

Goreinator vs HR2X
Gore- 5
H2RX- 5

FamousJ vs Jay
FamousJ- 8
Jay- 3

[kustomkreations]

hr632 said:

I only have a few things to say... I'll add my votes in during Raw

- Dr. Angus, I'm disappointed that you didn't change your custom since posting it in the Customs Discussion thread.
- the TTL torso does not work at all for Christian.
- I'm glad I didn't do a DA Corino... because gatesinners is awesome.
- whydraft2.. Mortis is very nice.. I see you had some problems sculpting around the knees
- Max Moon is very clean.. I'd like to see more pics of it though
- Jay's Steiner is nice.. but we need more pics.
- Bartman continues to impress me.. that singlet is badass.
-Gore.. I love the shoulder tat on Raven... albeit its a little big, but it's still awesome. I like the way you modded the legs. I really wish you would have done a shirt design. You also should have filled those ugly holes on the front of the Cena shorts.. look at my Kendrick.. they look 50x better when filled in.
- FamousJ.. honestly.. I don't like the use of the TNA AJ legs.. they make Mortis look pigeon-toed.
-Jay... Muta looks awesome.. aside from the gigantic pecs.

That's the only picture I have of Max right now. I'm in the process of finishing off the details that I didn't add (like the boots, belt, & crotch area). I also made his arm cannons but they don't fit right. Thats why he has 2 rings on his forearms instead of 3. A clip snaps into the black area to hold them on. I'm not sure it would be fair to post the new pictures on here while the competition is going on since it's a lot more detailed now.

[HR2X]

supercrazy said:

Maniwa - Much cleaner and the parts are better.

GCS - His is much cleaner, I hate the torso on the Christian fig its like still cracked.

GCS - TCKD used printouts and GCS's is great.

ROZZ - WD2's Mortis looks great but I like the Max Moon better, the sulpting is amazing on it and its a great custom all around.

Jay - I like the part choices better, and I don't really like Bartman's head.

Gore - Better custom all around, I don't like HR2X's head and I love what Gore did to the shorts.

Famous J - The heads great and its so clean, I dont like the modding on Jay's.

Find me a head that fits Stevie.. I dare ya.

[Deleted]

hr632 said:

supercrazy said:

Maniwa - Much cleaner and the parts are better.

GCS - His is much cleaner, I hate the torso on the Christian fig its like still cracked.

GCS - TCKD used printouts and GCS's is great.

ROZZ - WD2's Mortis looks great but I like the Max Moon better, the sulpting is amazing on it and its a great custom all around.

Jay - I like the part choices better, and I don't really like Bartman's head.

Gore - Better custom all around, I don't like HR2X's head and I love what Gore did to the shorts.

Famous J - The heads great and its so clean, I dont like the modding on Jay's.

Find me a head that fits Stevie.. I dare ya.

Steven Richards.

[HR2X]

2bme said:

hr632 said:

Find me a head that fits Stevie.. I dare ya.

Steven Richards.

Doesn't fit the stip..

[Deleted]

oh.
just now read that it said no real headscans.

[Gore]

2bme said:

oh.
just now read that it said no real headscans.

Why else would we decline to use realscan heads?

[Neekotronus]

Match 1- I have to go with Dr.Angus' Erik Cannon. Nice work on the head and body, but the only thing I would suggest differently would be using the Regal arms. Nick- I would have liked to have seen better pictures of your work.

Match 2- Gate without question. Nice smooth lines, solid work as always. Deen- The painting you did looks nice, but the crack up the side of the torso is weak sauce.

Match 3- Again, another for Gate, nice work! Great painting, nice work. Deen- Is that a HHH head? Either way, the hair needs to be trimmed down. It's too long for Owen. The singlet looks okay, but overall it feels rushed.

Match 4- Rozz all the way. Great work, smooth painting, nice sculpting, really solid work, kudos man, that's a great piece of work, you should be really proud of it. Whydraft2- I like your Mortis, but it looks a bit rushed. I know everyone was trying to get their pieces done for this ppv, but if you had spent more time working on taping off lines for your painting I think you would have had a much nicer piece of work here.

Match 5- My vote goes to Jay. I like that you both used Steiner heads, but I wish there would have been more work on the hair on both figures. Bartman- I like that you used the Heavyweight torso, but the singlet itself feels a little more Kurt Angle than Scott Steiner. EDIT- I just read your previous reply with pic, it doesn't change my vote, but it's good to see that was an actual singlet he wore. Nice job on the details, the stars look great.

Match 6- Goreinator, hands down. Really nice work mixing DA and RA lower legs. Is that a Matt Morgan head? And is that Foley hair? Nice stuff, you've actually inspired me to try the same custom. HR2X- I like what you did here. is the shirt fabric? I'd love to see how this would look with a modded TTL Stevie head.

Match 7- FamousJ here. Great work on that head, all the tiny detailing looks so nice, just a great piece of work. Jay- while I like what you did with the head, I don't really get why you sculpted so much of the torso. There are DA parts available that would have worked just fine without all sloppy sculpting on the torso. The paint also looks extremely rushed.

[Nexus Leader]

Chuck Taylor
TCKDEEN
TCKDEEN
ROZZ
JAY
HR2X
Famous J

[gatecitysinner]

midget said:

Chuck Taylor
TCKDEEN
TCKDEEN
ROZZ
JAY
HR2X
Famous J

Can we count this, no explanations were given.

[Jay]

niko2 said:

Jay- while I like what you did with the head, I don't really get why you sculpted so much of the torso. There are DA parts available that would have worked just fine without all sloppy sculpting on the torso. The paint also looks extremely rushed.

It's one thing to give me constructive criticism but to call my work sloppy is a bit much. I don't recall the last custom you did that was flawlessly sculpted. Also, I didn't want to use the DA parts "available" because I wanted to sculpt the torso myself. Well, if you feel you can do better, Go ahead and challenge famous in the next PP.

[The Canadian Killer Deen]

gatecitysinner said:

midget said:

Chuck Taylor
TCKDEEN
TCKDEEN
ROZZ
JAY
HR2X
Famous J

Can we count this, no explanations were given.

superugly said:

niko2 said:

Jay- while I like what you did with the head, I don't really get why you sculpted so much of the torso. There are DA parts available that would have worked just fine without all sloppy sculpting on the torso. The paint also looks extremely rushed.

It's one thing to give me constructive criticism but to call my work sloppy is a bit much. I don't recall the last custom you did that was flawlessly sculpted. Also, I didn't want to use the DA parts "available" because I wanted to sculpt the torso myself. Well, if you feel you can do better, Go ahead and challenge famous in the next PP.

remember guys dont fight in here **thumbs up**

yea i guess it doesnt count unless he comes back and gives explanations

[Neekotronus]

superugly said:

niko2 said:

Jay- while I like what you did with the head, I don't really get why you sculpted so much of the torso. There are DA parts available that would have worked just fine without all sloppy sculpting on the torso. The paint also looks extremely rushed.

It's one thing to give me constructive criticism but to call my work sloppy is a bit much. I don't recall the last custom you did that was flawlessly sculpted. Also, I didn't want to use the DA parts "available" because I wanted to sculpt the torso myself. Well, if you feel you can do better, Go ahead and challenge famous in the next PP.

Okay, obviously my opinion has upset you. I'm not here to stroke yours or anyone elses ego, but I do feel that the torso looks sloppy in sculpt and painting. I do like some of your work that I've seen. This is not your best work, in my opinion. Does that clear this up for you?

Some of you kids really need to grow thicker skin. No matter what someone else thinks of your work, you should be able to be proud of it yourself. If you are cool with it, cool, if not, work on it some more. But getting upset because someone's opinion is different from yours is very childish.

[Jay]

niko2 said:

superugly said:

Okay, obviously my opinion has upset you. I'm not here to stroke yours or anyone elses ego, but I do feel that the torso looks sloppy in sculpt and painting. I do like some of your work that I've seen. This is not your best work, in my opinion. Does that clear this up for you?

Some of you kids really need to grow thicker skin. No matter what someone else thinks of your work, you should be able to be proud of it yourself. If you are cool with it, cool, if not, work on it some more. But getting upset because someone's opinion is different from yours is very childish.

I don't have an issue with you criticizing my work, I actually prefer criticism. But to say my piece is sloppy is offensive. I'm not on this board to have my ego stroked. I do customs because I enjoy it and I love trying new techniques. If anyone is showing a little ego,it's you. Come on,"us kids", give me a break. I would never tell you your work was sloppy. If anything, I'd point out exact issues with your piece and try to give you tips on how to fix them. You saying my work is sloppy is helping me how? Would you really consider that constructive criticism? I would expect you as an "adult" (as opposed to "us kids") to do a better job than that. I'm not here to argue. As a matter of fact, I won't say another word on it.

[Neekotronus]

superugly said:

niko2 said:

superugly said:

Okay, obviously my opinion has upset you. I'm not here to stroke yours or anyone elses ego, but I do feel that the torso looks sloppy in sculpt and painting. I do like some of your work that I've seen. This is not your best work, in my opinion. Does that clear this up for you?

Some of you kids really need to grow thicker skin. No matter what someone else thinks of your work, you should be able to be proud of it yourself. If you are cool with it, cool, if not, work on it some more. But getting upset because someone's opinion is different from yours is very childish.

I don't have an issue with you criticizing my work, I actually prefer criticism. But to say my piece is sloppy is offensive. I'm not on this board to have my ego stroked. I do customs because I enjoy it and I love trying new techniques. If anyone is showing a little ego,it's you. Come on,"us kids", give me a break. I would never tell you your work was sloppy. If anything, I'd point out exact issues with your piece and try to give you tips on how to fix them. You saying my work is sloppy is helping me how? Would you really consider that constructive criticism? I would expect you as an "adult" (as opposed to "us kids") to do a better job than that. I'm not here to argue. As a matter of fact, I won't say another word on it.

Okay, Jay, here we go. Get comfortable.

You should consider drawing or rendering (if you have access to those programs) what you are going to sculpt before you sculpt it. Now, I think the skin, looks blotchy, not the painting of it, but the smoothness of it. The belly/abs area, as well as the, I'm not sure if that's a spare tire, but the fat on the sides of the torso doesn't look natural. The chest has been mentioned numerous times in this thread, so I won't bother to touch it. The sculpting doesn't look realistic at all, and if you wanted to create a sculpt instead of using what Jakks creates, then you need to work on your anatomical issues because the body, much like your sculpted Taz, is ridiculous. It's unnatural, it's not human, and moreso, looks nothing like the persons they are based on.

Now, to get back to your issue of adult or child...

"It's one thing to give me constructive criticism but to call my work sloppy is a bit much."

No, it isn't. Grow thicker skin, which is my point that got you so riled up in the first place. Because I didn't philate your work, and called it sloppy, when it does looks sloppy. I don't sculpt, but, I, just like anyone else, can look at something and say "Yo, that's sloppy!" if in our opinion it is. In my opinion, that sculpting you did for that torso looks bad. Would I choose to do that? No, I wouldn't.

"I don't recall the last custom you did that was flawlessly sculpted."

That's right, you didn't and you never will either. I don't sculpt. But this has nothing to do with the point at hand. Who's being childish now?

"Also, I didn't want to use the DA parts "available" because I wanted to sculpt the torso myself."

Okay, well that's cool and all, and you did, good for you, that's really all you needed to say. I offered up a suggestion and you blew it off. So, remind me again, how adult you are?

"Well, if you feel you can do better, Go ahead and challenge famous in the next PP. "

It's not about better or worse, but you want to argue opinons. Again. So anway, I hope this is over with as you stated above.

[ultim8customs]

TOO MUCH TALK..NOT ENOUGH PICTURES!!!! YOU TWO![/size]

[HR2X]

niko2 said:

Match 1- I have to go with Dr.Angus' Erik Cannon. Nice work on the head and body, but the only thing I would suggest differently would be using the Regal arms. Nick- I would have liked to have seen better pictures of your work.

Match 2- Gate without question. Nice smooth lines, solid work as always. Deen- The painting you did looks nice, but the crack up the side of the torso is weak sauce.

Match 3- Again, another for Gate, nice work! Great painting, nice work. Deen- Is that a HHH head? Either way, the hair needs to be trimmed down. It's too long for Owen. The singlet looks okay, but overall it feels rushed.

Match 4- Rozz all the way. Great work, smooth painting, nice sculpting, really solid work, kudos man, that's a great piece of work, you should be really proud of it. Whydraft2- I like your Mortis, but it looks a bit rushed. I know everyone was trying to get their pieces done for this ppv, but if you had spent more time working on taping off lines for your painting I think you would have had a much nicer piece of work here.

Match 5- My vote goes to Jay. I like that you both used Steiner heads, but I wish there would have been more work on the hair on both figures. Bartman- I like that you used the Heavyweight torso, but the singlet itself feels a little more Kurt Angle than Scott Steiner. EDIT- I just read your previous reply with pic, it doesn't change my vote, but it's good to see that was an actual singlet he wore. Nice job on the details, the stars look great.

Match 6- Goreinator, hands down. Really nice work mixing DA and RA lower legs. Is that a Matt Morgan head? And is that Foley hair? Nice stuff, you've actually inspired me to try the same custom. HR2X- I like what you did here. is the shirt fabric? I'd love to see how this would look with a modded TTL Stevie head.

Match 7- FamousJ here. Great work on that head, all the tiny detailing looks so nice, just a great piece of work. Jay- while I like what you did with the head, I don't really get why you sculpted so much of the torso. There are DA parts available that would have worked just fine without all sloppy sculpting on the torso. The paint also looks extremely rushed.

Shirt is sculpted.. I would have used a Stevie head but I couldn't because of the stip.

[Deleted]

I only voted on a few.

Gatecitysinner vs TCKDEEN

Gatecitysinner:

Pretty good, relatively simple. Clean paint job, and head was modded to fit nicely.

Tckdeen:

Always love the use of ttl parts. Just always takes more work to make them work correctly.
Neck should have been sanded down so the head sits correctly. It sits way too high aswell.
Abs should have been modded. Maybe a smaller torso should have been used.
Tights look decent.

Even though I hate going with a simpler custom, it's just more complete.

My Pick : Gatecitysinner.

Gatecitysinner vs TCKDEEN Round 2

Gatecitysinner:

Clean, it's put together pretty nicely. Logos look nice. Not a fan of the head, looks odd for some reason.

Tckdeen:

Not a fan of the pink outline, it's thick in some places and you can see some of the black on the shorts.
Are the logos printouts?

My Pick: Gatecitysinner


whydraft2 vs ROZZ


whydraft2:

Mortis looks pretty good. Some of the sculpting seems to be alittle lumpy, and the logos on the knee pads aren't the cleanest.

Rozz:

Max Moon is absolutely beautiful. Don't have any complaints about it. A complete custom imo.

My Pick: Rozz


Goreinator vs. HR2X


Goreinator:

Decent Raven. Would have been nice to see a shirt logo. Clean custom overall.
Big fan of the tats.


Hr2X:

Very Nice skintone. Nice use of that stupid edge head. Belly shirt looks good, and I love the jean shorts.

Both good customs. I know both of you could do better, but it is what it is.

My Pick: HR2X

[akawildfire]

Ok Here is my votes:

Angus/Maniwa: Winner- Angus.. I don't really care for either one of these figures.

Gatecitysinner/TCKDEEN: Winner- GCS.... Another set of figures I don't really care for but atleast the lance storm looks fairly clean, The chrisitan figure just looks rough, Needs smoother painting.

Gatcitysinner/TCKDEEN RD 2: Winner- GCS....Both figures are better then the 1st ones, but once again GCS is cleaner, don't really care for the bright yellow hair on corino but the front of the tights look good,,,, Owen is ok but the skintone is to blah and to glossy, Still alot better then the christian figure...

Whydraft2/ ROZZ: Winner- Rozz... The mortis is a nice figure and I like the extra touches But Max Moon is Off the chart very clean as expected.., I have seen all the customizers that have passed thru here in the last 7 years and I still stand true to my word that Rozz is the best Artist here past and present, His sculpting and painting are phenomenal and he's in a league all his own....

Bartman/Jay: Winner- Bartman.... I don't care for the head choice on either but Bartmans painting is more solid. Not much else to say

Goreinatior/ HR2X: Winner- HR2X... The raven works but the plain black shirt is just awful, I would have had a harder time deciding if there was a emblem or something on his shirt, Stevie richards looks good but the shirt is sloppy... Nice idea with giving him the shorter then usual shorts.

Famous J/ Jay: Winner- Famous J....Mortis is better then the 1st one posted, very even paintjob on the outfit, I would have like to have seen him with the accessories like in the other mortis challenge... The Muta head looks good but I don't care for the rest of the figure the body looks disproportioned and the painting is not as clean as mortis.....