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Post by T R W on Jan 8, 2014 21:13:02 GMT -5
I agree about changes needing to be made. And LOL at Lebetard selling giving his vote to Deadspin in protest.
I am very glad Thomas got in though. I was worried he might not. Dude was one of the best hitters I have seen in my 30+ years of watching baseball.
As far as new comers on next years ballot, Pedro, Unit, and Smoltz should all go in.
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Post by Scotty on Jan 8, 2014 21:39:34 GMT -5
When Unit goes in, think he will as a Mariner or a Diamondback?
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Post by T R W on Jan 8, 2014 22:25:27 GMT -5
When Unit goes in, think he will as a Mariner or a Diamondback? Expo! |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 8, 2014 22:46:45 GMT -5
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Post by ICW on Jan 9, 2014 0:51:39 GMT -5
Check out some of the notable first timers that will appear on the 2015-2019 ballots:
2015 - Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, John Smoltz, Gary Sheffield
2016 - Ken Griffey Jr., Trevor Hoffman
2017: Vladimir Guerrero, Jorge Posada, Manny Ramirez, Ivan Rodriguez.
2018: Chipper Jones, Jim Thome, Omar Vizquel.
2019: Roy Halladay, Todd Helton, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jan 9, 2014 1:52:27 GMT -5
It is so hard to believe Johnson retired five years ago already. Crazy.
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Post by ICW on Jan 10, 2014 13:52:19 GMT -5
BNightengale: The #Dodgers have let it be known they plan to go all-out in their efforts to sign Tanaka, saying they and certainly won't be out-bid.
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Tanaka's going to get paaaaiiidddd.
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Post by Chip on Jan 10, 2014 15:37:01 GMT -5
Yankees DFA'ed Vernon Wells...
that takes care of our outfield "problem" lol
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 10, 2014 15:43:43 GMT -5
Yankees DFA'ed Vernon Wells... that takes care of our outfield "problem" lol still got one too many. Beltran/Ichiro/Garnder/Soriano/Ellsbury Unless Cashman is comfortable with Ichiro as the 4th OF, which is risky since hes old |
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Post by Chip on Jan 10, 2014 16:27:30 GMT -5
Soriano is the DH. Need Ichiro for "insurance" No one's trading anything good for him, he's not making a ton of money and he still has something left in the tank. No real reason to let him go.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 10, 2014 16:50:17 GMT -5
Soriano is the DH. Need Ichiro for "insurance" No one's trading anything good for him, he's not making a ton of money and he still has something left in the tank. No real reason to let him go. Not saying let him go but hes the 4th OF, its risky since hes old. And its not like Soriano can slide into any OF spot. You kinda want your 4th OF to either be able to play all 3 spots, which isnt 100% necessary with Gardner there or play at least 2 very well in long periods of time. Doubt Ichiro can do either and stay healthy. |
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Jan 10, 2014 17:15:30 GMT -5
BNightengale: The #Dodgers have let it be known they plan to go all-out in their efforts to sign Tanaka, saying they and certainly won't be out-bid. ---- Tanaka's going to get paaaaiiidddd. Best rotation in baseball? |
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Post by ICW on Jan 10, 2014 18:45:31 GMT -5
BNightengale: The #Dodgers have let it be known they plan to go all-out in their efforts to sign Tanaka, saying they and certainly won't be out-bid. ---- Tanaka's going to get paaaaiiidddd. Best rotation in baseball? Sounds like that report wasn't true: BNightengale: The #Dodgers, while confirming their interest in Tanaka, say they won't spend wildly on him, particularly with Kershaw about to hit FA kengurnick: Dodgers aren't nearly as eager to enter a bidding war for Masahiro Tanaka as they were a year ago for Hyun-Jin Ryu. t.co/I3hRff7e53BNightengale: @swiftmodders The #Dodgers say they want Tanaka but they also want to make it clear they won't do something crazy in their offer. |
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Post by Chip on Jan 10, 2014 19:26:16 GMT -5
Soriano is the DH. Need Ichiro for "insurance" No one's trading anything good for him, he's not making a ton of money and he still has something left in the tank. No real reason to let him go. Not saying let him go but hes the 4th OF, its risky since hes old. And its not like Soriano can slide into any OF spot. You kinda want your 4th OF to either be able to play all 3 spots, which isnt 100% necessary with Gardner there or play at least 2 very well in long periods of time. Doubt Ichiro can do either and stay healthy. thats true, but think of it this way...take health out of the equation, because you just cant predict stuff like that. The starting OF for the Yankees is Gardner/Ellsbury/Beltran Gardner & Beltran could play CF, Soriano in an "emergency" Sori can also play LF with Ichiro in right and Gardner in center Ichiro in LF, Gardner CF, Beltran RF....there are a lot of combinations for when a guy needs a day off or a 1/2 day off (DH duty) With those 4 you can mix and match pretty much any way, just keep Beltran away from left, Ellsbury and Gardner away from right and so on (the positions they aren't used to playing basically). I don't think Ichiro is done. His bat may not be as good, but he has a chance to bounce back from last season. He's clearly not a liability in the outfield, he started in 126 games last year with a .989 fielding% and he played a few games in CF and a few in LF. I'm just saying in the case of a 4th guy, I'd take Ichiro over anything else they have the option for. Besides, he's signed through next season anyway, they aren't dumping his contract, and they aren't gonna find anyone to trade with for something worthwhile. |
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Jan 10, 2014 19:45:43 GMT -5
Best rotation in baseball? Sounds like that report wasn't true: BNightengale: The #Dodgers, while confirming their interest in Tanaka, say they won't spend wildly on him, particularly with Kershaw about to hit FA kengurnick: Dodgers aren't nearly as eager to enter a bidding war for Masahiro Tanaka as they were a year ago for Hyun-Jin Ryu. t.co/I3hRff7e53BNightengale: @swiftmodders The #Dodgers say they want Tanaka but they also want to make it clear they won't do something crazy in their offer. To be honest, I'd much rather give up a few mid level prospects to acquire David Price. |
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Post by LA Times on Jan 10, 2014 22:19:17 GMT -5
Sounds like that report wasn't true: BNightengale: The #Dodgers, while confirming their interest in Tanaka, say they won't spend wildly on him, particularly with Kershaw about to hit FA kengurnick: Dodgers aren't nearly as eager to enter a bidding war for Masahiro Tanaka as they were a year ago for Hyun-Jin Ryu. t.co/I3hRff7e53BNightengale: @swiftmodders The #Dodgers say they want Tanaka but they also want to make it clear they won't do something crazy in their offer. To be honest, I'd much rather give up a few mid level prospects to acquire David Price. If the Dodgers sign Masahiro Tanaka, I will buy his name & number T-shirt. |
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Jan 10, 2014 23:16:04 GMT -5
I believe the Dodgers actually do have the best chance to sign Tanaka, with the Yankees close behind for these reasons:
Dodgers:
-weather, it's been warm in Los Angeles the past few weeks and pretty much all year
-ownership, committed to winning and deep pockets
-diversity, the city of Los Angeles a very diverse city where he'll have a strong Japanese following + he'll get along great with Ryu
-team, the Dodgers currently have arguably 2 of the best starters in baseball along with great relievers and solid position players
-NL West, the Dodgers play in one of the weaker divisions in baseball making the playoffs a greater possibly
-tradition, many greats including some hof pitchers have donned the blue and white
Yankees:
-ownership, deep pockets willing to spend and committed to winning
-tradition, many greats and legends of the game have rocked the famous Yankee pinstripes
At the end of the day it's what matters most to Tanaka, although the Yanks are an excellent franchise, in not sure they have the pieces to win it all in arguably the toughest division in baseball.
Dodgers= win now, warm weather
Yankees= more money, be part of a franchise with rich history
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 11, 2014 11:50:47 GMT -5
Sounds like that report wasn't true: BNightengale: The #Dodgers, while confirming their interest in Tanaka, say they won't spend wildly on him, particularly with Kershaw about to hit FA kengurnick: Dodgers aren't nearly as eager to enter a bidding war for Masahiro Tanaka as they were a year ago for Hyun-Jin Ryu. t.co/I3hRff7e53BNightengale: @swiftmodders The #Dodgers say they want Tanaka but they also want to make it clear they won't do something crazy in their offer. To be honest, I'd much rather give up a few mid level prospects to acquire David Price. Why the F would the Rays take "mid level prospects" for Price??? |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 11, 2014 11:51:10 GMT -5
ARod is suspended for 2014 season, Kelly Johnson/Mark Reynolds = new bash brothers!
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Post by T R W on Jan 11, 2014 11:54:36 GMT -5
To be honest, I'd much rather give up a few mid level prospects to acquire David Price. Why the F would the Rays take "mid level prospects" for Price??? For the privilege of giving him to the mighty Dodgers, DUH! |
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