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Post by gps on Dec 28, 2012 15:30:12 GMT -5
How would they even make a "smaller" elite scale ring. If they make it smaller, it wouldn't be elite scale anymore, would it? Please explain this idea if you wouldn't mind. Do you have an ESR? That thing is huge! I would like a newer one with the same accessories and design but maybe 4 inches smaller on the width and length. A smaller ESR would also be a little cheaper and it wouldn't clog shelves as bad as the ESR did. I agree with what you are saying, and yes, I did have the Jakks RSR(which is the same size as the Mattel ESR). It is huge. My question was, and remains, how do you make an elite scale ring smaller & still have it be to scale. You can't. It's either to scale, or it's not.
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Post by bharrisfan on Dec 28, 2012 18:28:57 GMT -5
i lost sight of the bigger picture here...the ESR is in fact oversized. it dwarves the figures the way a real ring does not do to the actual wrestlers. if you put your figure in the ring and compare that to a wrestler standing in the wwe ring, the ESR does not look in scale at all.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 28, 2012 18:32:38 GMT -5
i lost sight of the bigger picture here...the ESR is in fact oversized. it dwarves the figures the way a real ring does not do to the actual wrestlers. if you put your figure in the ring and compare that to a wrestler standing in the wwe ring, the ESR does not look in scale at all. I was looking at my elite ring a couple weeks ago and wondering this. Anyone got any comparison pics from similar angles?
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Post by Chewdeezy on Dec 28, 2012 18:50:43 GMT -5
Do you have an ESR? That thing is huge! I would like a newer one with the same accessories and design but maybe 4 inches smaller on the width and length. A smaller ESR would also be a little cheaper and it wouldn't clog shelves as bad as the ESR did. I agree with what you are saying, and yes, I did have the Jakks RSR(which is the same size as the Mattel ESR). It is huge. My question was, and remains, how do you make an elite scale ring smaller & still have it be to scale. You can't. It's either to scale, or it's not. Ok, let me start over. The Elite Scale Ring is huge and it's not in scale with what a real ring looks like with wrestlers in it. Mattel made it too big, it's not in scale. I want Mattel to make a smaller sized Elite scale ring or a bigger basic ring.
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Post by gps on Dec 29, 2012 12:59:45 GMT -5
I agree with what you are saying, and yes, I did have the Jakks RSR(which is the same size as the Mattel ESR). It is huge. My question was, and remains, how do you make an elite scale ring smaller & still have it be to scale. You can't. It's either to scale, or it's not. Ok, let me start over. The Elite Scale Ring is huge and it's not in scale with what a real ring looks like with wrestlers in it. Mattel made it too big, it's not in scale. I want Mattel to make a smaller sized Elite scale ring or a bigger basic ring. Ah. I get it now. You want a "correct" elite scale ring. Did I get it right?
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Post by kevinandrewc on Dec 30, 2012 9:44:36 GMT -5
I agree with what you are saying, and yes, I did have the Jakks RSR(which is the same size as the Mattel ESR). It is huge. My question was, and remains, how do you make an elite scale ring smaller & still have it be to scale. You can't. It's either to scale, or it's not. Ok, let me start over. The Elite Scale Ring is huge and it's not in scale with what a real ring looks like with wrestlers in it. Mattel made it too big, it's not in scale.I want Mattel to make a smaller sized Elite scale ring or a bigger basic ring. I remember saying this when the ring first came out, and people jumped down my throat for it. They even accused me of stupidly buying a Jakks RSR and not knowing the difference. Good times.
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Post by Von Hooten on Dec 30, 2012 12:49:21 GMT -5
I must be the only one who thinks the ESR is in the right scale. I have even spoke to people who wrestled in a real WWE ring and they told me how huge it is compared to what some indi companies use.
The ESR is 22"x22" so it may be just a little bigger in scale comparison to the real thing but I think it is fine considering the average WWE Mattel figure is about 6.5" tall. WWE's is 20'x20' so it's close more than anything.
BTW, even though Jakks claimed their RSR was 22"x22" it was really 20 3/4" Maybe Mattel should have stuck with that number instead of going the full 22"
For sets like the Mattel's EC or HitC I would have settled for an 18"x18" ring
The basic rings aren't even traning ring worthy. The school am I going to uses a 15'x15'.
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Post by bharrisfan on Dec 30, 2012 16:49:15 GMT -5
mattel shoulddve erred on the side of smaller than bigger
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 30, 2012 16:56:28 GMT -5
I must be the only one who thinks the ESR is in the right scale. I have even spoke to people who wrestled in a real WWE ring and they told me how huge it is compared to what some indi companies use. The ESR is 22"x22" so it may be just a little bigger in scale comparison to the real thing but I think it is fine considering the average WWE Mattel figure is about 6.5" tall. WWE's is 20'x20' so it's close more than anything. BTW, even though Jakks claimed their RSR was 22"x22" it was really 20 3/4" Maybe Mattel should have stuck with that number instead of going the full 22" For sets like the Mattel's EC or HitC I would have settled for an 18"x18" ring The basic rings aren't even traning ring worthy. The school am I going to uses a 15'x15'. Yeah, each side should be pretty much three Undertaker figures long for it to be in scale.
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Post by dizcoduck on Dec 30, 2012 17:39:23 GMT -5
I just hate the "Spring" feature that the small ones have because they are so bouncy and noisy. I would love 1 at the current size with just a normal ring to it that doesn't sink in. I still use my old Jakks ring that I have different ropes/aprons to change it up from time to time and the best thing is it doesn't bounce!
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Post by Captain McKay on Dec 30, 2012 22:10:53 GMT -5
I don't see why it couldn't be done. Have it be like the Jakks Monster Ring - a solid piece of plastic with stickers on the aprons, solid plastic posts/turnbuckles, and elastic ropes. Slap it in with a cage or some other gimmick to justify a new, different ring.
It'd be pretty cheap since it wouldn't have the cloth goods that are on ESRs, and it could measure like 14"-16" or so like the Monster Ring did.
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Post by peghound on Dec 31, 2012 10:59:14 GMT -5
Needs to happen, Matty can't deny this is a good idea. It'll get everyone off their case about a new ESR which wasn't even in scale to begin with.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 31, 2012 11:38:32 GMT -5
Needs to happen, Matty can't deny this is a good idea. It'll get everyone off their case about a new ESR which wasn't even in scale to begin with. They're not going to make a business decision costing many thousands of dollars and man hours just to placate a few people on a forum. Most of us wouldn't even buy a slightly-bigger basic ring. And kids are fine with the current rings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 17:20:23 GMT -5
The Jakks Cell playset is one of my favorite rings . . . maybe try grabbing that . . . i believe ring of poison is similar in size
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Post by bharrisfan on Jan 1, 2013 13:58:10 GMT -5
^im an esr owner and would gladly swap for one a little smaller. and from what i measure the esr is not in scale with the figures. it's too big
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Post by peghound on Jan 1, 2013 14:07:20 GMT -5
Needs to happen, Matty can't deny this is a good idea. It'll get everyone off their case about a new ESR which wasn't even in scale to begin with. They're not going to make a business decision costing many thousands of dollars and man hours just to placate a few people on a forum. Most of us wouldn't even buy a slightly-bigger basic ring. And kids are fine with the current rings. Yeah because they don't run projects all the time that are a result of fans demands. They are making Castle Greyskull so this isn't out of the realm of possibility. Is it likely, no. But I bet they've kicked this idea around quite a bit in their offices. They lurk these forums, this is a fairly reasonable idea lets see if it goes anywhere.
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Post by Captain McKay on Jan 1, 2013 14:12:23 GMT -5
^im an esr owner and would gladly swap for one a little smaller. and from what i measure the esr is not in scale with the figures. it's too big I'd say go for the Jakks RSR if you only want to downsize a little. It seems like the scale fits pretty spot-on with Mattel figures.
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