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Post by wrestlingbillyho on Dec 26, 2012 21:33:18 GMT -5
whole-heartedly agree we need bigger, better rings! These rings are old and outdated. The spring mat is done, man. These rings are too small, too inaccurate. But the ESR was a bit too much for me. So, let's meet in the middle somewhat. Let's make it about a 16x16 or 14x14 w/ accurate colored posts, removable turnbuckles, real aprons, and I don't care about the mat. It can just be a stiff base but as long as it's the right color and no logo in the middle, I'm not really for a cloth mat, as it's hard to get figures to stand on one. Braided ropes would be sick too, but could go without them and just stick to the ones we've always had. Decos for Raw, Smackdown, Main Event, PPV's, and of course CLASSICS!! We'd have it made, and I like the idea of packing stuff like that with figures IF we had to do it that way, but would rather buy the packs by themselves. Ring steps too, rings steps! Accurate barricades, the list goes on and on and on...
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Post by kevinandrewc on Dec 26, 2012 21:40:30 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority here, but smaller than real scale is still not in scale and just as useless to me. The figures will still look odd in it. A middle ground doesn't seem to solve that issue. I guess we'd have to see what it looks like to know if it solves the problem. But imagine fitting a GI Joe in a Jeep that isn't quite to scale, but not as small as a matchbox car. If it doesn't fit to proportion it's still too small.
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Post by WMWanimations on Dec 26, 2012 22:19:01 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority here, but smaller than real scale is still not in scale and just as useless to me. The figures will still look odd in it. A middle ground doesn't seem to solve that issue. I guess we'd have to see what it looks like to know if it solves the problem. But imagine fitting a GI Joe in a Jeep that isn't quite to scale, but not as small as a matchbox car. If it doesn't fit to proportion it's still too small. You are in the minority, as you own a ESR. Lol ESR ring owners shouldnt worry themselves over downgrading or buying something smaller, as they already have the real deal. However, for people in the majority, who don't have the real deal, a mid-sized ring would do the trick just fine. The ring that came with the Jakks Hell in a Cell(not real scale) was fine, yet it was only like 14x14.
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Dec 26, 2012 22:26:54 GMT -5
jakks MITB ring is perfect size to me.
id also like them to stop packing everything with a ring. the last two years ive gotten my son the walmart steel cage, ringside battle, elimintation chamber, KMART tlc, the cell.... he has stacks of these damn rings lol
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Post by mrhoss on Dec 26, 2012 22:53:10 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority here, but smaller than real scale is still not in scale and just as useless to me. The figures will still look odd in it. A middle ground doesn't seem to solve that issue. I guess we'd have to see what it looks like to know if it solves the problem. But imagine fitting a GI Joe in a Jeep that isn't quite to scale, but not as small as a matchbox car. If it doesn't fit to proportion it's still too small. I get your point and I'm not trolling but almost nothing Hasbro makes is to scale. Years ago Target and Walmart sold jets, tanks, choppers that were true to scale. They looked huge and that company is out of business.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 26, 2012 22:55:44 GMT -5
I have a Mattel Elite Scale Ring.....I'll never buy another ring again as long as I live. It's the best ring ever made and I'm glad to have it.
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Post by MattyPro12 on Dec 26, 2012 23:02:17 GMT -5
Id like to see something comparable to the old JAKKS Hardcore ring with some accessory packs. Make the ring a little bigger with some more detail (rubber turnbuckle pads w/ logo, not hard plastic pads w/ stickers for logos) and release some accessory packs (like the Hardcore Ring had sets with various ring skirts, pads, posts, etc.). They can even release some accessories with figures. Like how they have build afigure or build a set series, the can release series where one figure comes witgh turnbuckles, one figure has a ring skirt and ropes, etc. This. Something the size of the Jakks Hardcore ring would be perfect. If you can find one online i'd recommend getting it along with the steel cage or hell in a cell that attach to it. Ring skirts & ropes to. Wow, now I'm starting to regret getting rid of mine and all its accessories, although I am pretty content with my ESR.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Dec 26, 2012 23:10:34 GMT -5
Id be on board for this.
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Post by MBG1211 on Dec 26, 2012 23:27:07 GMT -5
The stores don't want rings because they don't sell well...so that's why you won't see any new ones. Same reason why Jakks hasn't made any new TNA rings...the stores just don't want them.
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Post by philleaps on Dec 26, 2012 23:41:03 GMT -5
This made me search ebay for an old Jakks hardcore ring. haha
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Post by peghound on Dec 26, 2012 23:45:57 GMT -5
If they did it right it would sell. Add an exclusive Elite and people would buy it just for the fig.
They already do it with Rumblers.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 27, 2012 0:30:05 GMT -5
If they did it right it would sell. They already did it right. It didn't sell.
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Post by Kickpads on Dec 27, 2012 0:31:20 GMT -5
I would like it, but I don't see it happening in the near future.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 27, 2012 0:32:23 GMT -5
It's strange to me, because when I was growing up, I LOVED the Monster Ring and hated everything up until the RSR. The Attitude/Hardcore ring was a nice compromise, but even still - I liked the bigger ring. My cousin and I used to talk about how cool it would be if Jakks made a bigger ring, and later on obviously they did. Kids LIKE that kind of stuff. The Elite ring was probably too big for most people, but surely there's a crossover market with kids and collectors when it comes to larger rings...
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Post by onleeone643 on Dec 27, 2012 0:41:37 GMT -5
The way I understand it, it needs to be functional, cost efficient, and at a price point retailers and customers both agree on. It's been said a few times that anything over about the 25$ mark scares people and things don't sell well. See the DM figures for example. I don't play with my figures so it's not an issue for me, honestly. While I do agree that they should be in scale with their own figures, it is what it is. I'd much rather them put time, effort, and money into the figures themselves instead of a ring. Have you seen the price of figures lately? The ppv elites are at $25+. I don't think Mattel really worries about making prices affordable.
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Post by MattelDesignTeam on Dec 27, 2012 9:31:07 GMT -5
Here's the short answer on this. We are somewhat constricted by the shelf space and height that the major retailers set their planograms to in their stores, which is generally 12-14 inches high. If it is too big to fit in that height they don't carry it and we can't sell enough through alternate channels to justify the massive tooling costs involved with making a bigger ring. Since the Elite Scale Ring did so poorly at retail and the reason above any discussion of increasing the size of the basic ring never comes to anything. I've tried to raise the subject every year we plan the new products for the next line but at this point it is set at 12" for the 6" line. Hope this helps even if it is not the answer you all probably want. Bill
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Post by Bandalero on Dec 27, 2012 10:01:58 GMT -5
^^ thanks for the insight MDT Bill. The height restrictions makes sense - one couldn't even hope for a 14" ring since the packaging would add another 1" or so more anyways.
It's a real pity because the basic ring is useless and as awesome as the ESR is, it's really too big. How many of you guys have at least a 24" x 24" area of table-top or space to display this? Mine's currently on a 6' folding table in my basement. Such a pity because I'd love to show it off with my collection.
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Post by popyduggan on Dec 27, 2012 10:59:00 GMT -5
I would just want the same concept of the Jakks LJN Monster Ring; 4 posts, 1 ring bottom, 3 ropes, 12 plastic turnbuckles, and some stickers in Mattel scale.
It doesn't need any electronics or spring-loaded doohickies, just give me enough room to do a superplex or doomsday device or a top rope splash where the guy doesn't hit his head on the opposite turnbuckle.
I'm sure Mattel could put that out with a $30 msrp, unless the costs of sticker goods has gone sky high recently.
I just read Bill's reply and thank you sir for trying to pull for one, and I'm sorry retail has so many stupid rules, but maybe Mattycollector has bigger shelves for such a thing? Hmm?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 27, 2012 12:18:33 GMT -5
I just read Bill's reply and thank you sir for trying to pull for one, and I'm sorry retail has so many stupid rules, but maybe Mattycollector has bigger shelves for such a thing? Hmm?
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Post by WalterF on Dec 27, 2012 13:41:22 GMT -5
What if the box had the ring in two halves so that the surface of the ring wouldnt be taking up the entire 14 inch space? So if you had a 20 inch ring, but with two panels that are 10 inches each laid side by side and once out of the package you can snap the two pieces together?
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