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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 13:27:14 GMT -5
I've heard that as well but just because you have the name "The Game"? It doesn't mean you'll be world champ. Saying that, if Barry Horowitz was called "The Game", that means he would have been world champ. But they wouldn't have given Horrowitz the Game gimmick. No kidding. People are talking like it was the gimmick name that was going to get the push. It's the person with it. If Owen was called "The Game", he wouldn't have gotten any further! The don't write storylines for names. |
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Post by marino13 on Jul 2, 2012 15:05:06 GMT -5
I've heard the rumor but I don't believe it at all. I think the name came from the interview Hunter did with Ross, nothing more. But as much as the internet (specially back then) road Triple H's ass, it wouldn't surprise me if some idiot started this rumor.
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Post by K5 on Jul 2, 2012 17:05:52 GMT -5
owen hart was being punished by being the blue blazer because he refused to be in a lot of the edgier storylines. this pissed vince and the writers off, and vince basically kept him so that wcw didn't have the hart brothers. he had no intention of ever pushing owen to the sky...if he wanted to do that, he had the entire 90s and chose to keep him upper-mid card unless feuding with bret. anyone interested in this should read martha hart's book, despite it's depressing content.
i mean, i wish he would've been pushed further, i really like owen...but i can't see anything in this.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 2, 2012 18:44:33 GMT -5
owen hart was being punished by being the blue blazer because he refused to be in a lot of the edgier storylines. this pissed vince and the writers off, and vince basically kept him so that wcw didn't have the hart brothers. he had no intention of ever pushing owen to the sky...if he wanted to do that, he had the entire 90s and chose to keep him upper-mid card unless feuding with bret. anyone interested in this should read martha hart's book, despite it's depressing content. i mean, i wish he would've been pushed further, i really like owen...but i can't see anything in this. In Bret's book he refurts this by saying it was Owen who suggested going back to the Blue Blazer gimmick and it was not a punishment as much as Owen using it to stay away from the edgier content. I'd take Bret's word over the angry widow of Owen (who has a right to be angry). |
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Post by K5 on Jul 3, 2012 17:20:36 GMT -5
either way, during the height of the attitude era a refusal to be involved in edgier content wouldn't have gotten you anywhere higher up the card.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 5:27:06 GMT -5
Never heard/read that rumor except on this board. same here.even if he did have it he wouldnt have been the World Champ.Vince just didnt see him there. |
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Post by Likwid[[Southern]] on Jul 4, 2012 8:31:15 GMT -5
Plus, Foley and I believe Jericho, among others, have stated that Owen was just waiting his contract out so he could retire and move on. He saved all the money he made wrestling, and a couple days before dying, had just purchased his family a new home.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 8:33:38 GMT -5
owen hart was being punished by being the blue blazer because he refused to be in a lot of the edgier storylines. this pissed vince and the writers off, and vince basically kept him so that wcw didn't have the hart brothers. he had no intention of ever pushing owen to the sky...if he wanted to do that, he had the entire 90s and chose to keep him upper-mid card unless feuding with bret. anyone interested in this should read martha hart's book, despite it's depressing content. i mean, i wish he would've been pushed further, i really like owen...but i can't see anything in this. Vince Russo said that McMahon told Owen he was going to push him as Canada's greatest wrestler at the end of 97 (after montreal), but Shawn Michaels wouldn't drop the title to him. |
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Post by K5 on Jul 4, 2012 8:48:11 GMT -5
never heard that, but if it's true, wouldn't be surprising.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 4, 2012 9:22:02 GMT -5
After Bret left Owen seemed to have a few detractors that held him back. Shawn and Hunter because they were dicks and Austin because according to Bret Owen never apologized for the botched move right away that broke Austin's neck.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 18:43:33 GMT -5
he never apologised at all IIRC.
Vinnie was NEVER gonna put the title on Owen.his program for the title through WM14 was locked in.just look at the way Owen was treated at the 98 Rumble?
Vinnie just didnt view him that way.and for the record I wouldnt blame Austin for not wanting to work with him.
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Post by ebilbryan™ on Jul 4, 2012 18:49:45 GMT -5
After Bret left Owen seemed to have a few detractors that held him back. Shawn and Hunter because they were dicks and Austin because according to Bret Owen never apologized for the botched move right away that broke Austin's neck. Makes me wonder if anyone's shown this to Austin - |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 4, 2012 20:39:46 GMT -5
After Bret left Owen seemed to have a few detractors that held him back. Shawn and Hunter because they were dicks and Austin because according to Bret Owen never apologized for the botched move right away that broke Austin's neck. Makes me wonder if anyone's shown this to Austin - Karma is a bitch... I thought he eventually did. A genuinly great guy like Owen doesn't seem like he would just not apologize at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 23:04:58 GMT -5
Bret said Owen allegedly "forgot" to call.
I doubt it.
I just don't think Owen knew what to say. They don't make "sorry I just dropped you on your head and almost ended your career and gave you instant paralysis just as you were beginning the biggest push of your career" sympathy cards.
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Post by jaymieandrogyny on Jul 5, 2012 3:17:55 GMT -5
Can't believe some people are saying he wouldn't have held the WWF Championship.
Who's to say what would have or wouldn't have happened? You don't know what would have happened. For all we know, Owen could have been the guy who got "married" to Stephanie and took over the WWF. For all we know, that could have been the plan, then he died, and they gave the whole thing to HHH instead. That's my theory, but I can't say for a fact that it would have happened, because I don't know that for a fact.
Nobody knows what would have happened.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 5, 2012 8:41:20 GMT -5
Bret said Owen allegedly "forgot" to call. I doubt it. I just don't think Owen knew what to say. They don't make "sorry I just dropped you on your head and almost ended your career and gave you instant paralysis just as you were beginning the biggest push of your career" sympathy cards. True. I know Bret said it devastated Owen after it happened and no really proper way to apologize for something like that. Anyway can't believe Owen wasn't pushed to the moon after the screw job. Yes, Austin was the top star, but Owen was over pretty well for a few months after returning and could have been pushed to the main event as well. Instead, he had one match w/ HBK on RAW where he looked great but ended up being humiliated by DX. And then for the next 3 months leading up to WM14 he was constantly humiliated by HHH and Chyna. I still have no clue why HHH was given that win over Owen that night. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 5, 2012 8:47:33 GMT -5
Was supposed to be given "The Game" gimmick that ended up being given to HHH? No. There's no way he would have. It's just urban myth/wishful thinking from Internet morons. |
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Post by K5 on Jul 5, 2012 11:32:42 GMT -5
Can't believe some people are saying he wouldn't have held the WWF Championship. Who's to say what would have or wouldn't have happened? You don't know what would have happened. For all we know, Owen could have been the guy who got "married" to Stephanie and took over the WWF. For all we know, that could have been the plan, then he died, and they gave the whole thing to HHH instead. That's my theory, but I can't say for a fact that it would have happened, because I don't know that for a fact. Nobody knows what would have happened. we can view the situations and time it took place and make pretty accurate judgements. shawn michaels not being willing to drop the title at a time when he was THE guy backstage is a huge factor, hurting stone cold's neck is a huge factor, his treatment after that (nation of domination - just making fun of his nose for a year), and finally ending up back in the comical blue blazer suit - it's VERY logical to say that a man who was trying to get away from the wwf and pursue other interests while his career waned and personal conflicts arose would not be winning their premier championship. his last real 'push' i can think of is defeating ken shamrock at in your house and some tag matches. |
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Post by K5 on Jul 5, 2012 11:34:41 GMT -5
I just don't think Owen knew what to say. They don't make "sorry I just dropped you on your head and almost ended your career and gave you instant paralysis just as you were beginning the biggest push of your career" sympathy cards. dead on, exactly my take. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2012 19:40:00 GMT -5
Can't believe some people are saying he wouldn't have held the WWF Championship. Who's to say what would have or wouldn't have happened? You don't know what would have happened. For all we know, Owen could have been the guy who got "married" to Stephanie and took over the WWF. For all we know, that could have been the plan, then he died, and they gave the whole thing to HHH instead. That's my theory, but I can't say for a fact that it would have happened, because I don't know that for a fact. Nobody knows what would have happened. nobody knows for sure but cmon now.......look at his treatment in 98....we can make a pretty educated guess man. |
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