The "other" guy......

[Nivro™]

Some automatically see the words and think of this guy but really, was Marty that bad? Sure he didnt have the hall of fame career that his tag team partner (shawn michaels) had but he did go on to win the IC Title as well as the Tag Team titles.

It seems every team has 1 guy...and then "the other guy". Teams like Hart Foundation (Bret the main guy, Jim "the other guy"), Headshrinkers (Fatu went on to a decent singles career, Samu fell off the earth), Steiner Bros (Scott went on to become one of the bigger names in the sport and world champion, Rick sell insurance) are some examples of teams. However there are a few teams that Ive always wondered who were "the guy" and who was "the other guy" teams like....


Road Warriors- Neither Hawk nor Animal went on to hold any major singles titles even though they're consistently ranked as the greatest tag team of all time. Both went on to have tag team success with different partners but never a singles career.

Demolition- Ax had a decent career as Masked Superstar as well as Smash as Krusher Kruchev. However neither after the demise of Demolition made a very big splash. Ax seemingly retired and spent time in the Indys and Smash ended up with silly gimmicks like Repo Man and Blacktop Bully.

So what about some other legendary tag teams? Who was who of the two in teams like Rock n Roll Express, Midnight Express, British Bulldogs, Dudley Boys, Hardy Boys, Edge & Christian etc etc etc???

[natepadberg]

krusher kerchev was before his demolition run, just wanted to point that out, lol.

[Nivro™]

May 3, 2012 20:24:00 GMT -5 natepadberg said:

krusher kerchev was before his demolition run, just wanted to point that out, lol.

I know, thats why I said Ax had a decent career as masked superstar and Smash-Krusher Kruchev but neither AFTER the demise of Demolition.

I was trying to emphasize the point about guys careers after they were in a successful tag team...sorry if that was confusing.

[natepadberg]

yeah, i think i just read it wrong, took it out of context. british bulldogs is a good example as well

[kazoosandstreamers]

As far as the more modern teams go I think the Dudleys were pretty much on the same level.
Sure, Edge and Jeff were the favored ones out of their respective teams, but to label Christian and Matt the same as Marty just wouldn't be right.

[jammer311]

May 3, 2012 20:21:30 GMT -5 Nivro™ said:

Some automatically see the words and think of this guy but really, was Marty that bad? Sure he didnt have the hall of fame career that his tag team partner (shawn michaels) had but he did go on to win the IC Title as well as the Tag Team titles.

It seems every team has 1 guy...and then "the other guy". Teams like Hart Foundation (Bret the main guy, Jim "the other guy"), Headshrinkers (Fatu went on to a decent singles career, Samu fell off the earth), Steiner Bros (Scott went on to become one of the bigger names in the sport and world champion, Rick sell insurance) are some examples of teams. However there are a few teams that Ive always wondered who were "the guy" and who was "the other guy" teams like....


Road Warriors- Neither Hawk nor Animal went on to hold any major singles titles even though they're consistently ranked as the greatest tag team of all time. Both went on to have tag team success with different partners but never a singles career.

Demolition- Ax had a decent career as Masked Superstar as well as Smash as Krusher Kruchev. However neither after the demise of Demolition made a very big splash. Ax seemingly retired and spent time in the Indys and Smash ended up with silly gimmicks like Repo Man and Blacktop Bully.

So what about some other legendary tag teams? Who was who of the two in teams like Rock n Roll Express, Midnight Express, British Bulldogs, Dudley Boys, Hardy Boys, Edge & Christian etc etc etc???

I wouldn't put the Steiners in that "other guy" situation at all. Rick Steiner had a very successful career before tagging with Scott. He was a two time UWF Tag Champion, a NWA TV Champion and a Florida Champion.

And even when Rick and Scott broke up, both men went on to do great things. Scott won the TV Title, 2 US Titles and the WCW Title, where as Rick won the TV Title twice, and the US Title.

I just don't think the Steiners deserve to be in this list of tag teams.

[Deleted]

Barry Darrsow did find himself doing a bunch of silly gimmicks post demolition (repo man, mr. hole in one)

[mikey1974]

to a certain degree, Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard.

after dominating the tag ranks in the NWA and WWF , they broke up due to outside circumstances ( both were going back to WCW, but then Tully tested positive for drugs,so WCW fired him before he ever stepped foot in a ring).

Arn went on to be a multi-time WCW TV Champ and Tag Champ, re-hooked up with Flair,and was a part of the 4 Horsemen (WCW Edition) til it ended. then he was hired by WWE,mostly for behind the scenes agent work,but occassionally made on camera appearances.

Tully went on to work briefly in ECW,and some independent bookings,before retiring quietly.

so as great as both were,i always end up thinking of Tully Blanchard as the "other guy" to Arn Anderson.

[kenlarchtin]

Marty was better at promos back in the rocker days. I preferred Marty back then.

[Deleted]

I always thought Janetty was unfairly viewed.the guy had bundles of talent too and out of the Rockers Tandem I found him to be the better worker.

Harlem Heat is a great example too.....Booker just took off out of sight.

[Mr. Old School™]

You guys gotta remember one thing, Jannetty was responsible for breaking the neck of preliminary wrestler Charles Austin and it ended up costing the World Wrestling Federation like 26.7 million in damages. I'm sure that definitely played into his lack of push he was getting at the time.

[jammer311]

May 4, 2012 13:35:29 GMT -5 Mr. Old School™ said:

You guys gotta remember one thing, Jannetty was responsible for breaking the neck of preliminary wrestler Charles Austin and it ended up costing the World Wrestling Federation like 26.7 million in damages. I'm sure that definitely played into his lack of push he was getting at the time.

I thought it was the cocaine and booze that lacked his push within the World Wrestling Federation at that time.

[Mr. Old School™]

^ Well, you could be right too. However, I'm sure costing the company $26 million didn't do him any favors...

[jammer311]

I don't think that Vince and the rest of the WWE would blame Marty for such a mistake. The guy taking the move messed up, not Marty. I don't even know how the WWE could be at fault to pay up that much money to that guy.

I know in Bret Hart's book, he talked about how over on some foreign trip that Marty stole the bus when the bus driver was out and was gonna drive it and Bret said to him, "Don't listen to them cheering you on, they won't be there for you when you get fired for this." And Marty said, "Thanks Bret, you're right."

Marty has only Marty to blame for things that have went wrong in his wrestling career.

[Raine]

Other Guy teams:
Smoking Gunns
Harlem Heat
Steiners
Hardys
Edge/Christian
Harts
Rockers
Bolsheviks (Nikolai slightly better)
Los Guerreros
High Energy
New Foundation
Headshrinkers
Money Inc
Twin Towers
Colossal Connection
Rougeaus

Equal teams:
New Age Outlaws
Owen & Bulldog
British Bulldogs
Road Warriors
Demolition
Godwinns
Dudleys
Powers of Pain
Power & Glory
Bushwhackers
APA
D.O.A
Natural Disasters
Beverley Bros
Brain Busters
Rhythm n Blues
Strike Force

[greenjack1992]

Surely, if anything, we know that in the Dudleys D-Von has proven to be the other guy. Bubba is main eventing in TNA and is on TV for pretty much every segment of every show whereas D-Von is the Legends/Global/Television/Meaningless Champion on Xplosion! every week and no one gives a flying what he's doing.

[jammer311]

May 4, 2012 15:42:41 GMT -5 Raine said:

Other Guy teams:
Smoking Gunns
Harlem Heat
Steiners
Hardys
Edge/Christian
Harts
Rockers
Bolsheviks (Nikolai slightly better)
Los Guerreros
High Energy
New Foundation
Headshrinkers
Money Inc
Twin Towers
Colossal Connection
Rougeaus

Equal teams:
New Age Outlaws
Owen & Bulldog
British Bulldogs
Road Warriors
Demolition
Godwinns
Dudleys
Powers of Pain
Power & Glory
Bushwhackers
APA
D.O.A
Natural Disasters
Beverley Bros
Brain Busters
Rhythm n Blues
Strike Force

I guess the 2 NWA Titles and the 2 World Titles that Christian has held is worth of him being a "other guy"?? No freaking way.

Edge and Christian are on equal grounds as far as I am concerned.

[Nivro™]

May 4, 2012 15:42:41 GMT -5 Raine said:

Other Guy teams:
Smoking Gunns
Harlem Heat
Steiners
Hardys
Edge/Christian
Harts
Rockers
Bolsheviks (Nikolai slightly better)
Los Guerreros
High Energy
New Foundation
Headshrinkers
Money Inc
Twin Towers
Colossal Connection
Rougeaus

Equal teams:
New Age Outlaws
Owen & Bulldog
British Bulldogs
Road Warriors
Demolition
Godwinns
Dudleys
Powers of Pain
Power & Glory
Bushwhackers
APA
D.O.A
Natural Disasters
Beverley Bros
Brain Busters
Rhythm n Blues
Strike Force

I actually like this list a lot except for the ones I bolded. Id be curious on your opinion on the Colossal Connection. Andre pretty much retired afterwards but Haku/Meng, if I recall correctly, didnt really do anything great afterwards. He as a lacky for Col. Rob Parker and then teamed with Barbarian.

If going by the criteria of what they did AFTER they tagged up, I would def say Davy Boy had a better career then Dynamite. I guess a case like theirs could be considered with Ande/Haku since you cant really compare as one guy pretty much retired. Power & Glory i would Def say Paul Roma had the better career. Hercules disappeared and then jobbed in WCW as the Invader. Roma went on to be a Horseman and a multitime tag champion. APA is about the same as CC and Bulldogs, Simmons more or less retired but Bradshaw went on to become US and World Champion. Comparing their careers after their demise, Bradshaw got the better end of the deal. As for the Brain Busters, a poster above explained that the best. While overall career I would take Tully over Arn, their body of work after the demise of the Brain Busters, Arn was by far head and shoulders over Tully.

May 4, 2012 18:03:08 GMT -5 @jammer311 said:

May 4, 2012 15:42:41 GMT -5 Raine said:

I guess the 2 NWA Titles and the 2 World Titles that Christian has held is worth of him being a "other guy"?? No freaking way.

Edge and Christian are on equal grounds as far as I am concerned.

My only question mark/concern over this is that the NWA Title at the time as a very very small championship that really didnt matter. On top of that, I honestly dont think Christian would have see the World Title if it wasnt for Edge's injury. His run is right up there with Mysterio in the fact they got it for the "feel good" factor.

[Glorydaysofwrestling]

1st off tag team wrestling is my favorite wrestling. There are several guys who could be considered the other guy but really we have no idea what each guys strengths and weakness' are. Jannetty helped mold Shawn into what he beacme (Shanws book) Dynamite Kid was one of the best wrestlers of all time but Davey Boy will always be more recognized because he had a better attitiude and didn't get injured as much. Anvil helped Hitman with interviews and bringing personality to the team. At first Hitman was the jobber and they were pushing Anvil. In short sometimes its just the way the cookie crumbles. They all had their strenghts and weakness'.

[Raine]

May 4, 2012 19:00:16 GMT -5 Nivro™ said:

May 4, 2012 15:42:41 GMT -5 Raine said:

Other Guy teams:
Smoking Gunns
Harlem Heat
Steiners
Hardys
Edge/Christian
Harts
Rockers
Bolsheviks (Nikolai slightly better)
Los Guerreros
High Energy
New Foundation
Headshrinkers
Money Inc
Twin Towers
Colossal Connection
Rougeaus

Equal teams:
New Age Outlaws
Owen & Bulldog
British Bulldogs
Road Warriors
Demolition
Godwinns
Dudleys
Powers of Pain
Power & Glory
Bushwhackers
APA
D.O.A
Natural Disasters
Beverley Bros
Brain Busters
Rhythm n Blues
Strike Force

I actually like this list a lot except for the ones I bolded. Id be curious on your opinion on the Colossal Connection. Andre pretty much retired afterwards but Haku/Meng, if I recall correctly, didnt really do anything great afterwards. He as a lacky for Col. Rob Parker and then teamed with Barbarian.

If going by the criteria of what they did AFTER they tagged up, I would def say Davy Boy had a better career then Dynamite. I guess a case like theirs could be considered with Ande/Haku since you cant really compare as one guy pretty much retired. Power & Glory i would Def say Paul Roma had the better career. Hercules disappeared and then jobbed in WCW as the Invader. Roma went on to be a Horseman and a multitime tag champion. APA is about the same as CC and Bulldogs, Simmons more or less retired but Bradshaw went on to become US and World Champion. Comparing their careers after their demise, Bradshaw got the better end of the deal. As for the Brain Busters, a poster above explained that the best. While overall career I would take Tully over Arn, their body of work after the demise of the Brain Busters, Arn was by far head and shoulders over Tully.

May 4, 2012 18:03:08 GMT -5 @jammer311 said:

May 4, 2012 15:42:41 GMT -5 Raine said:

I guess the 2 NWA Titles and the 2 World Titles that Christian has held is worth of him being a "other guy"?? No freaking way.

Edge and Christian are on equal grounds as far as I am concerned.

My only question mark/concern over this is that the NWA Title at the time as a very very small championship that really didnt matter. On top of that, I honestly dont think Christian would have see the World Title if it wasnt for Edge's injury. His run is right up there with Mysterio in the fact they got it for the "feel good" factor.

I agree, it was a favour to a retiring Edge, giving Christian his first World title reign and it was quickly whipped back off him within days. As far as NWA championships are concerned, this isn't the 80's, that belt is about as valuable as the US title.

Edge is a far bigger star than Christian will ever be. FACT