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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Jan 13, 2009 14:11:26 GMT -5
Theres no way she is going to be a pro wrestler. She is too much of a spoiled bitch and a crybaby. Yeah WWE has to many of those *cough* Triple H & Shawn Michaels *cough*already, lol.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Jan 13, 2009 14:08:46 GMT -5
I want to get both. Just interested in seeing who gets on these dvds.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Jan 6, 2009 19:06:34 GMT -5
How is Vince becoming the announcer of Raw a punishment to him.? Sounds like a punishment for all of us! I remember Vince being the commentator for all those years, and most of them I was wishing that they would replace the goofy sounding announcer, not realizing that he was the owner of the company lol.
Even if he were to do that, it would take like what? A segment before 90% of this board is bashing him and wishing for the days of Michael Cole lol
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Dec 26, 2008 14:57:54 GMT -5
the fact that most people that have voted on Michaels/Hogan proves how many marks their really are on this board! My pick goes with Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle. I wanna see a great wrestling match that we all know can never happen because of Bret's injuries.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Dec 24, 2008 15:28:40 GMT -5
To me its about the hard facts. And the fact is the ECW title is a the main title for a WWE brand. That in itself makes it just as important as the WWE or WHC. Prestige, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Same goes for the US title. It doesn't matter what the lineage is, the fact is it is the second tier title on a WWE brand, and thus is equivalent to the IC belt. But with so many titles now I think that being a Triple crown winner or a Grand slam champ is a little pointless, and diluted, that is why WWE doesn't recognize or make reference to it IMO.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Dec 21, 2008 14:24:58 GMT -5
1. Bret Hart 2. Edge 3. Owen Hart 4. Chris Jericho 5. Christian Benoit, Storm, and Williams also deserve a mention, but hey its a top 5 list not a top ten
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Dec 14, 2008 1:59:33 GMT -5
1985 Sometime after Wrestlemania. I was about 10 years old, and my friends got me into it. Another sad peer pressure story lol
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Dec 12, 2008 3:14:43 GMT -5
I read it and was blown away by his honesty, and the fact that he recorded alot of the stuff he wrote when it was happening, like an audio journal. That's what makes it so accurate.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Dec 9, 2008 19:49:44 GMT -5
I voted for Ted DiBiase Jr., Deuce, and Joe Henning. I think that these 3 would be phenomenal together and would help them later when they became single or tag team competitors.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Nov 18, 2008 19:02:33 GMT -5
Ric Flair is a mark for Bret Hart end of story.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Oct 18, 2008 2:04:58 GMT -5
Awesome!, almost every generational wrestler is good. So it should be good to see mini nature boy *cough* David Flair *cough* Not to mention *cough*Eric Watts*cough*
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Oct 17, 2008 16:44:24 GMT -5
Bret Hart.....easily
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Oct 10, 2008 17:25:23 GMT -5
Actually I'm not opposed to him winning the belt. Koslov has won me over the same way CM Punk did. The only difference is that CM Punk had the IWC jizzing at the fact that he was in WWE. So Punk winning me over is a little bigger because when the IWC is in love with you, I tend to not be interested in you. Well at least until you show me something But I can see Koslov holding it for a short time. I got no problem with that, and it would make it interesting to watch him in Main Event matches to see if he's the real deal.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Oct 10, 2008 16:27:30 GMT -5
Actually you got that wrong. Vince decided that he couldn't continue to pay Bret the 20 year contract they had a signed a year earlier, due to the fact that WCW was kicking his ass in the ratings. Bret did not want to leave, especially after he had let Vince portray the "Hitman" character as a guy who hated the USA. Yes Bret may have been wrong about dropping the title at SS, BUT its Vince's call to do what he feels is right for HIS company. And in my opinion the circumstances were so much different than how traditional rules applied (i.e Bret having the creative power over his last match). Shawn is just an employee, and should've minded his own damn business. As for all the "He's a christian now, blah, blah blah," well I tend to agree with Byran Clark(Adam Bomb) said, which was that HBK only became christian to take the heat off of himself from all the bad things he had done to people in the business. BTW if you notice it took 5 years, a WWE related tv show, his book, and Vince to tell Shawn that it was ok to admit that he was involved? That alone should tell you that even Shawn knew he was wrong! And in that time no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE had Shawn's back when it was rumored, and later confirmed by Shawn that he was involved, well not anyone married in the McMahon family. Vince was the only one to have the guts to say "Yes I did it, and I don't care what everyone thinks, this my business and I will run it how I want." I can respect that, I can't say the same about Shawn, and no one else can either. 1. since when is Bryan Clark the measure of dignity? i can't stand that people can't actually fathom the idea of someone changing their life for the best, heaven forbid a person try and better themselves as a human being and having the desire and excitement to tell others about it...guess eddie guerrero and ted dibiase are all a bunch of blow hards too huh? 2. don't ever say what me or anyone else on this board can say or not say, if i remember correctly (and i do) this is still america and freedom of speech is still free, i have all the respect in the world for hbk, he's has confessed his wrong doings in business AND in life (which quite frankly is NONE of anyones business minus his friends and family and employer) i love how EVERYONE thinks that just because someone is on tv or in nationally known, we all of a sudden have the right to have access to a persons personal life and what and who they belive in in their faith, unless you are becomming the next president of the united states of america, i could care less about it, and go ahead and say, "well he publically says everywhere he can that he is born again so he makes it known and therefore it is our business" part of christianity is witnessing to non believers and to be fishers of men, he is doing his part in ministering to the lost and gaining lost souls for the kingdom of heaven, so, bash him, smite him, i could care less, but when you have the faith and the love of the gospel, as shawn does, I RESPECT THAT! but as always...to each their own.. 1.) Did you actually read my post? Because no where in there did I ever say to anyone what they could or couldn't say. If you couldn't gather that then go relearn the English language. I only corrected the poster from what I believe he said was wrong. You want to correct me on that then fine, I got no problem with that. 2.) Where did I make the point that Bryan Clark was the measure of dignity? I quoted someone who was actually there, and he's on a loooooooonnnnnngggggggggg list of guys who tend to agree with him. Where there is smoke there is fire. 3.) HBK has NEVER CONFESSED HIS WRONG DOINGS. He's maybe done it storyline wise briefly, but its like being an alcoholic, one of the 12 steps is going to the people you've done wrong and apologizing for it. Whether they accept it or not is up to them. 4.) HBK has put HIMSELF in this position. When you do something as dispicible as the things he's done, you are going to have to pay for them in one way or another. He got what he wanted in '97, but I bet if he knew he had to put up with this for the rest of his life he would have told Vince no! You can put crosses on a piece of crap and have a priest bless it with holy water, but it still makes it a piece of crap. 5.) My roommate was raised in a born-again christian home, and she absolutely is not a wrestling fan. I asked her to do research on the subject and come to her own conclusions. This is what she says: a) Shawn is in now way a christian, and if he thinks he is he's fooling himself, just look at the current angle he's involved in with Jericho. If he was so christian, he would never think to be involved in it. b) She really wants to go to an event so she can be front row with signs that have bible versus to really mess with him.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Oct 9, 2008 23:59:48 GMT -5
You are flat out f*cking nuts! Bret had a $1 Million a year contract for 20 years. How is that ridiculous? Even by 1997 standards. If Vince made a deal that he couldn't afford, how in the hell is that Bret's responsibility to "be more understanding"? That has got to be the most stupid thing I have read on here yet! Vince was broke? Give me a f*cking break! 4 months after Bret left, he ended up paying Mike Tyson $3 Million for a month and half worth of angle work! If Bret "wasn't understanding", he could've EASILY sued Vince for breach of contract and he would've won, slam dunk! THAT would've put Vince out of business. You have no idea what business is about. None. None. None. You're blaming the employee for expecting his boss to honor the contract that the boss negotiated and signed into? Go crawl back under your rock you moron! Actually, you're the ing moron. HBK and Taker were both making 750, 000 a piece. There is no way Bret deserved more, especially than Taker simply because he sure as hell wasn't drawing more than either of them. There was no way Bret was a bigger draw than either of those two, especially Taker. Even when Bret was champion in 1997, HBK and Taker were given the main event spots ... because they were putting more asses in the seats, so get your facts straight. And furthermore, Vince spending so much on Tyson added ***** viewership to WM14 and made it a huge success so he more than made back on it. Bret's contract was not gonna draw back immediate money like Tyson at WM. Obviously, it wasn't too major a blow to WWE, since WWE did their best business in 1998, after Bret left. You're the f-cking moron and you should get your sh-t straight before you decide to insult other people. Obviously I do have a good idea of what business is about as did WWE at the time because they were able to turn everything around. Also keep in mind that Bret didn't want to go in the direction of the Attitude Era ... and what would have happened if WWE didn't get edgier? They problably would have went out of business. Just because Vince gave a big chunk of change to Tyson, doesn't automatically dismiss the whole rediculiousness of Bret's contract, and if you knew more about the reasons why you'd MAYBE be entitled to an opinion. Man I was cool with all of your posts until the last two. YOU ARE WITH OUT A DOUBT ABSOLUTELY WRONG! When Shawn was champ ratings went down, that's why they kept putting the belt on Bret. That's why Vince signed him to a "ridiculousness"(BTW that's the correct spelling) contract, and to keep Bret, you know one of his top stars(BTW in the WWE you get to that spot because you are a big draw) from going to WCW. If Bret wasn't that important to the WWE, then why sign him? Why not just let him go when his contract was up, and not get tied to a 20 year contract that Vince could not afford? Keep in mind that in the Documentary "Wrestling with Shadows", we all remember that don't we? That's the doc. that pretty much damns Vince, Shawn, HHH, Earl Hebner, and anyone else involved. Oh and its also the doc. that Vince never tried to sue from coming out, unlike Beyond the mat. If not look it up and watch it. Anyways in that Doc. when Vince tells Bret that he can't afford his contract anymore, HE TELLS BRET THAT HE ALSO CANNOT RENEGOTIATE EITHER, AND THAT HE WOULD BE BETTER OFF GOING TO WCW! Now as for the Tyson thing, true it helped business, but there's now way the company fully recovered the money back on that. Its essentially like buying commercial time, it goes under losses for the company, and is a tax write off. BTW you think that a major company like WWE wasn't going to be able to recoup a million dollar contract in a year? If that's true they should of went out of business! By that logic if they couldn't recoup that then they should of released 'Taker and Shawn as well. Sure it wasn't a million dollar contract but its only a difference of $250k right? And hell combined their contracts were more than Bret's right? As for Bret not wanting to go in the direction of the Attitude Era, well again they should of never signed him, and if that decision was made after they signed him, then they could have told him "Look this where we are going with the company, either jump on board, or we'll let you out of your contract, no hard feelings." Or they could of made an angle out of it, and made huge money with it. So I'm not gonna call you names other than you just being another HBK mark, blinded by what is staring you in the face, literally their is a freaking documentary out there, but hey I'm a Bret Hart Mark(My name says it all lol).
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Oct 9, 2008 16:31:49 GMT -5
It does not change my view of HBK at all. I know HBK was not the greatest guy in the world back then, but he has changed. He is not like that anymore. Bret is still the same ol' crybaby he always was. He has this thirst to be right all the time, and a desire for people to side with him. He is very bitter and it is quite annoying. He's old, and all he can remember is the MSJ (which was his own fault for refusing to give up the belt when HE WAS LEAVING! He made the decision to go to WCW. Vince made the decision to take the belt of Bret at SS, but Bret did not want to. You can't do that. It doesn't work. Bret was too full of himself to lose the belt the right way, so Vince and HBK did what they had to do. Not necessarily a honest thing to do, but Bret leaving for WCW wasn't the nicest thing to Vince, either...both were business decisions, and both men did what they thought was necessary. It is over, Bret. Stop whining. We do not feel sorry for you. Actually you got that wrong. Vince decided that he couldn't continue to pay Bret the 20 year contract they had a signed a year earlier, due to the fact that WCW was kicking his ass in the ratings. Bret did not want to leave, especially after he had let Vince portray the "Hitman" character as a guy who hated the USA. Yes Bret may have been wrong about dropping the title at SS, BUT its Vince's call to do what he feels is right for HIS company. And in my opinion the circumstances were so much different than how traditional rules applied (i.e Bret having the creative power over his last match). Shawn is just an employee, and should've minded his own damn business. As for all the "He's a christian now, blah, blah blah," well I tend to agree with Byran Clark(Adam Bomb) said, which was that HBK only became christian to take the heat off of himself from all the bad things he had done to people in the business. BTW if you notice it took 5 years, a WWE related tv show, his book, and Vince to tell Shawn that it was ok to admit that he was involved? That alone should tell you that even Shawn knew he was wrong! And in that time no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE had Shawn's back when it was rumored, and later confirmed by Shawn that he was involved, well not anyone married in the McMahon family. Vince was the only one to have the guts to say "Yes I did it, and I don't care what everyone thinks, this my business and I will run it how I want." I can respect that, I can't say the same about Shawn, and no one else can either.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Oct 7, 2008 17:49:43 GMT -5
I plan on getting it soon. I have been waiting for it to be released here in the US since it came out in Canada.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Sept 26, 2008 17:58:55 GMT -5
This just proves one of two things: A) There is no God or B) Satan is more heavily involved in Hollywood than we imagined
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Sept 24, 2008 13:49:03 GMT -5
Yes, and thank the real wrestling gods
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Sept 15, 2008 2:43:42 GMT -5
It is with me. I am pleasantly surprised at how well he is doing with it, and that WWE is giving him the right kind of push. I'm also surprised that WWE found a gimmick for him so quickly and Paul London is no where to be found. lol
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