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Post by Flyrfn144 on Jun 21, 2008 15:56:22 GMT -5
Rene Dupree-Didn't really see enough out of him to be honest. I never understood the hype about him. Muhammed Hassan-Didn't want to be involved so he left.Christian-Probably would have if given the shot. Sean O'Haire-Would have been best to start at the US Title level 1st. Jeff Hardy-Was going to be champion but will have to wait longer. I really believe he would have it sooner but he got suspended. He blew that one himself but can still get it. Shelton Benjamin-Thought he would have but I guess it's not meant to be for him. Elijah Burke-Not sure what he's doing and where he's going. Needs to be built up 1st. Hassan was taken off of TV because of criticism from the media and some fans from the terrorist angle he pulled on Taker.
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Post by djknightrida on Jun 21, 2008 16:32:47 GMT -5
Christian should be #1 on the list. WWE really dropped the ball on him
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Post by markallenkellner on Jun 21, 2008 16:42:11 GMT -5
Thats' true, nut even if he didn't get in trouble, I'm pretty sure he would've dropped the belt shortly Umaga deserves a short heel run with the title, as does William Regal. Another one was RVD. He held the belt briefly, but the guy was so over, he should've been a long term champ. oh he shouldve, but then he got caught with bud with sabu. as much as i love rvd, but uh, eh.
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Post by Heresy on Jun 21, 2008 16:52:25 GMT -5
Christian would've been a World champ in no time, more likely on Smackdown, if he stuck around longer. Aside from Sean O'haire and Hassan who had great characters and mic skills, the rest I don't regret not going far.
Add Paul Burchill to the list. He's been around since 2005.
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Post by chumped on Jun 21, 2008 16:56:55 GMT -5
Definitely Christian.
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Post by markallenkellner on Jun 21, 2008 17:28:49 GMT -5
Vince and co. should have their heads examined for letting Christian and Kurt Angle leave.
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Post by markallenkellner on Jun 21, 2008 17:29:55 GMT -5
Even though we all love Captain Charisma, I still don't think Vince saw the potential in him that we all did. Christian would've been a World champ in no time, more likely on Smackdown, if he stuck around longer. Aside from Sean O'haire and Hassan who had great characters and mic skills, the rest I don't regret not going far. Add Paul Burchill to the list. He's been around since 2005.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jun 21, 2008 17:37:55 GMT -5
Rene Dupree-Didn't really see enough out of him to be honest. I never understood the hype about him. Muhammed Hassan-Didn't want to be involved so he left.Christian-Probably would have if given the shot. Sean O'Haire-Would have been best to start at the US Title level 1st. Jeff Hardy-Was going to be champion but will have to wait longer. I really believe he would have it sooner but he got suspended. He blew that one himself but can still get it. Shelton Benjamin-Thought he would have but I guess it's not meant to be for him. Elijah Burke-Not sure what he's doing and where he's going. Needs to be built up 1st. Hassan was taken off of TV because of criticism from the media and some fans from the terrorist angle he pulled on Taker. Actually, the WWE got heat about it from the network the show was on. They didn't really pull the plug on him. If I remember right the network SD was on at the time told them they weren't going to allow the character on TV any more. There was a huge media uproar as well since the WWE really did cross the line (I thought). There may be video of it floating around on Youtube, but I'm too lazy to look for it.
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Post by juggarnautmofo on Jun 21, 2008 17:40:19 GMT -5
i think Hassan is maybe the biggest, because he had the oppourtunity to be maybe the biggest heel in the WWE and if they wouldve kept with him and put him in a program with John Cena while he was doin his whole marine routine that maybe couldve put Cena on the same level or even close to the same level as hogan and Bret with fan support because instead of him getting mixed reactions maybe everybody would be on his side.
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Post by Son0F100MaNiAcS on Jun 21, 2008 17:42:47 GMT -5
right when rock was commin up i though billy gunn had a shot
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jun 21, 2008 18:01:19 GMT -5
I looked. This is the best I could find of the controversial Muhammad Hassan segment. To set it up, 'Taker had a match that night with Daivari (then Hassan's manager). He destroyed Daivari and was celebrating his victory when this happened: . After what you see there, the 4 masked guys put Daivari on a board or something and carried him off on their shoulders the way you see dead terrorists carried away in the Middle East. All of this aired the same day of the London subway bombings.
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Post by T1 on Jun 21, 2008 18:11:10 GMT -5
I looked. This is the best I could find of the controversial Muhammad Hassan segment. To set it up, 'Taker had a match that night with Daivari (then Hassan's manager). He destroyed Daivari and was celebrating his victory when this happened: . After what you see there, the 4 masked guys put Daivari on a board or something and carried him off on their shoulders the way you see dead terrorists carried away in the Middle East. All of this aired the same day of the London subway bombings. In fairness, it was all a big coincidence that this aired the same day as the London bombings. It was taped a few days in advance, so how were they to know what would happen? If it hadn't been for the bombings, I doubt there would have been a big uproar.
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 21, 2008 18:15:34 GMT -5
Hassan was punished for the WWE's stupid as decisions, hell Smackdown was a taped show they could have edited out the masked men jumping Taker. It was filmed prior to the bombings, and WWE knew it was controversial because I remember vividly watching Smackdown and before anything even happened a message ran across the bottom of my screen saying that in light of recent events viewer discretion is advised for the next segment. WWE knew what they were doing, they thought they might actually be able to use this more to get him over, asnd they were idiots. A week later Hassan was off our TV's forever, then a few weeks after that he was out of the company, all because some stupid ass writer thought it would be a good idea. Hassan got punished for playing his character so well that they couldn't repackage him because he would still get massive heat for his prior stint, the way he was treated and handled was BS and I would hope that someday he pops up in TNA and shows us what he had.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jun 21, 2008 18:29:23 GMT -5
Hassan was punished for the WWE's stupid as decisions, hell Smackdown was a taped show they could have edited out the masked men jumping Taker. It was filmed prior to the bombings, and WWE knew it was controversial because I remember vividly watching Smackdown and before anything even happened a message ran across the bottom of my screen saying that in light of recent events viewer discretion is advised for the next segment. WWE knew what they were doing, they thought they might actually be able to use this more to get him over, asnd they were idiots. A week later Hassan was off our TV's forever, then a few weeks after that he was out of the company, all because some stupid ass writer thought it would be a good idea. Hassan got punished for playing his character so well that they couldn't repackage him because he would still get massive heat for his prior stint, the way he was treated and handled was BS and I would hope that someday he pops up in TNA and shows us what he had. I heard they couldn't edit it because it was supposed to air that day. I think they did edit it out of versions that aired the next day, but I'm not sure.
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 21, 2008 20:24:53 GMT -5
Hassan was punished for the WWE's stupid as decisions, hell Smackdown was a taped show they could have edited out the masked men jumping Taker. It was filmed prior to the bombings, and WWE knew it was controversial because I remember vividly watching Smackdown and before anything even happened a message ran across the bottom of my screen saying that in light of recent events viewer discretion is advised for the next segment. WWE knew what they were doing, they thought they might actually be able to use this more to get him over, asnd they were idiots. A week later Hassan was off our TV's forever, then a few weeks after that he was out of the company, all because some stupid ass writer thought it would be a good idea. Hassan got punished for playing his character so well that they couldn't repackage him because he would still get massive heat for his prior stint, the way he was treated and handled was BS and I would hope that someday he pops up in TNA and shows us what he had. I heard they couldn't edit it because it was supposed to air that day. I think they did edit it out of versions that aired the next day, but I'm not sure. Smackdown filmed on Tuesday, airs Thursday, attacks in England Thursday morning, at least 16 hours prior to Smackdown! being broadcasted on the East Coast. The WWE doesn't have a high school AV club working, they have professionals, they could have edited that out in like 10 minutes. They make montages before Pay-Per-Views even end, they could have cut out that segment.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jun 21, 2008 22:14:28 GMT -5
I heard they couldn't edit it because it was supposed to air that day. I think they did edit it out of versions that aired the next day, but I'm not sure. Smackdown filmed on Tuesday, airs Thursday, attacks in England Thursday morning, at least 16 hours prior to Smackdown! being broadcasted on the East Coast. The WWE doesn't have a high school AV club working, they have professionals, they could have edited that out in like 10 minutes. They make montages before Pay-Per-Views even end, they could have cut out that segment. I dunno. The match and segment was probably 10-15 mins I would guess. You have to fill that 10 mins with something. Even if you wanted to do 10 mins of promos you would've had to find the wrestlers (who may even be at home on Thursdays), get them to a studio somewhere. Get a film crew there. Figure out what they're going to say and then film it, edit it and then edit it into the program. You can't realistically do a 10 min video montage. I have to give the WWE the benefit of the doubt on this one. They were pushing the envelope with the angle to begin with though.
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Post by The Highwayman on Jun 21, 2008 23:12:04 GMT -5
muhammed hassan, totally agree. he was pretty much screwed by the company. i was so so so pissed when he quit. he had so much potential. so much.
christian too. he quit too, and i also dont blame him. he shouldve been a world heavyweight champion by now.
maven i kinda agree with, though ic champ at best i think.
burke should be on raw or something. hes so good and is very entertaining.
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Post by Vitamin Z on Jun 21, 2008 23:19:45 GMT -5
I totally agree with O'Haire.
He had the look and charisma.
He could have easily been champ in WWE.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jun 21, 2008 23:41:59 GMT -5
RVD back in 2001 was the most over Superstar in the entire company. I still think they should have given him the WWF Title back at No Mercy in the 3-way match versus Austin and Angle.
Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin both had such promising careers when they first came up, but the WWE continuously dropped the ball with them. Don't give me the "they have bad mic skills" excuse because if the WWE can let Randy Orton be Champ, anyone can.
Matt Hardy has deserved a title reign or at the very least a spot in the main event scene on SmackDown! for a long time. He's over, has great in-ring skills, is the more talented Hardy brother...what would be so bad in giving him a shot in the main event?
It was surprising that Lashley never held the WWE or World Title while he was in the WWE, and I think he would have eventually if he stuck around. I know he was the ECW Champion, but still. Even though I never liked him all that much, the WWE obviously saw something in him enough to keep him in the main event scene.
Tommy Dreamer should have been the ECW Champion in the new ECW. It's really surprising that they never used him in that role to help get somebody else over, like Burke, Morrison, Punk, etc.
Owen Hart, I still think, should have had a WWF Title reign back during his long feud with Bret over the title, even if it was only a short one.
Some people won't agree with me here, but I think X-Pac could have been a main event Superstar back when he was probably the second most over Superstar in the company next to The Rock in 1999. Maybe he couldn't have necessarily held the WWF Title, but back when he feuded with the Undertaker, I really think that could have helped elevate him to main event status.
Mr. Perfect, I'm kind of surprised was never a world champion in the WWF or WCW, but his biggest flaw was that no one felt confident he could draw as the main heel for a company.
Piper was another one...he should have had at least one WWF Title reign, but he had the unfortunate duty of playing Hogan's whipping boy when the WWF really started to gain steam with Hogan as Champ. It's not surprising why they didn't want Hogan dropping the title.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2008 23:48:21 GMT -5
Smackdown filmed on Tuesday, airs Thursday, attacks in England Thursday morning, at least 16 hours prior to Smackdown! being broadcasted on the East Coast. The WWE doesn't have a high school AV club working, they have professionals, they could have edited that out in like 10 minutes. They make montages before Pay-Per-Views even end, they could have cut out that segment. I dunno. The match and segment was probably 10-15 mins I would guess. You have to fill that 10 mins with something. Even if you wanted to do 10 mins of promos you would've had to find the wrestlers (who may even be at home on Thursdays), get them to a studio somewhere. Get a film crew there. Figure out what they're going to say and then film it, edit it and then edit it into the program. You can't realistically do a 10 min video montage. I have to give the WWE the benefit of the doubt on this one. They were pushing the envelope with the angle to begin with though. They could've just basically said "Hey, because of today's news, the last ___ minutes were cut out of the show. To replace it, here is a match from [insert last PPV here]." Obviously not in those words, but I think everyone can understand the general direction I'm going in.
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