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Post by TurboEddie on Aug 24, 2015 2:18:58 GMT -5
I enjoyed SummerSlam. Match quality was mostly good and the results were pretty much what I wanted.
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on Aug 24, 2015 2:39:17 GMT -5
Due to me being in School and not having Four Hours time to watch a whole PPV i just watched the Finishes of KO Vs. Cesaro, Rollins Vs. Cena and most of Lesnar Vs. Taker. KO beating Cesaro is i wanted, John Stewart made me laugh my ass off(and gave me the idea for Meme that i am going when i got the time for doing that) and i don't really know what i am supposed to think of the finish of Lesnar Vs. Taker. Atleast it was better than their Mania Match.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 2:48:19 GMT -5
I'm hearing rumors that the end of Taker/Brock may have been botched. It certainly looked that way. Was it supposed to be a double count out or close to one? It seemed that maybe the guy that rang the bell jumped the gun on things and then Taker had to cover and improvise and ending by sort of low-blowing and trying to get Brock into another hold. That could explain the momentary looks of confusion on both of their faces.
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Post by becks007 on Aug 24, 2015 2:52:52 GMT -5
I heard some pretty serious "How you doin'?" chants.. I think the WWE fans are ready for Big Cass and Enzo. Mark my words, Big Cass and Enzo will bomb and become jokes in the tag team division of the main roster.. They are better off staying put in NXT.
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Post by becks007 on Aug 24, 2015 2:54:33 GMT -5
I'm hearing rumors that the end of Taker/Brock may have been botched. It certainly looked that way. Was it supposed to be a double count out or close to one? It seemed that maybe the guy that rang the bell jumped the gun on things and then Taker had to cover and improvise and ending by sort of low-blowing and trying to get Brock into another hold. That could explain the momentary looks of confusion on both of their faces. Then how do you explain Taker tapping out? It was shown on replay countless of times. Somehow, pretty sure that was their plan to have it end that way with some sort of "controversy".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 3:02:40 GMT -5
I'm hearing rumors that the end of Taker/Brock may have been botched. It certainly looked that way. Was it supposed to be a double count out or close to one? It seemed that maybe the guy that rang the bell jumped the gun on things and then Taker had to cover and improvise and ending by sort of low-blowing and trying to get Brock into another hold. That could explain the momentary looks of confusion on both of their faces. Then how do you explain Taker tapping out? It was shown on replay countless of times. Somehow, pretty sure that was their plan to have it end that way with some sort of "controversy". No, I have no doubt that tap hand movement from Taker was intentional (although an argument can be made that Brock's shoulders were flat on the mat at the time and Taker was pinning him from above and also not making a full tap on the mat). However, it seemed like something got messed up with the timing and when the bell rung. Like it could possibly have been planned for a tap out from Taker/pass out from Brock at the same time and maybe the time keeper had the wrong spot. Something just seemed off about the timing. The ending felt like a little bit of improv on the spot by Taker.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 24, 2015 3:05:00 GMT -5
I heard some pretty serious "How you doin'?" chants.. I think the WWE fans are ready for Big Cass and Enzo. Mark my words, Big Cass and Enzo will bomb and become jokes in the tag team division of the main roster.. They are better off staying put in NXT. I agree they need more work. Hard to imagine them getting called up atm, they can't even get on TV on NXT. Maybe one day they will get their "Bayley moment" and capture the NXT tag titles. I'm not against them staying put in NXT, just hard to ignore the love for them.
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Post by becks007 on Aug 24, 2015 3:06:17 GMT -5
Then how do you explain Taker tapping out? It was shown on replay countless of times. Somehow, pretty sure that was their plan to have it end that way with some sort of "controversy". No, I have no doubt that tap hand movement from Taker was intentional (although an argument can be made that Brock's shoulders were flat on the mat at the time and Taker was pinning him from above and also not making a full tap on the mat). However, it seemed like something got messed up with the timing and when the bell rung. Like it could possibly have been planned for a tap out from Taker/pass out from Brock at the same time and maybe the time keeper had the wrong spot. Something just seemed off about the timing. The ending felt like a little bit of improv on the spot by Taker. I probably have to watch that part again on the Network. It happened pretty quickly too the moment the bell rang out of the blue. Some have also said the angle when Taker tapped was impossible for the timekeeper to even see it from where he was.... Gonna take a look at it again.
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Post by Flair Forever on Aug 24, 2015 3:28:52 GMT -5
And as far as Sting goes....I think it's time to stop watching shows hoping and waitng for Sting. WWE does not seem to have ANY desire or intentions on promoting or using Sting in a match and having him beat a WWE Superstar. I think WWE is content to just make money off of Sting's name and continue to pump out merchandise and have him do appearances here and there. Sting got his Mania match, they made him eat the pin to Paul McMahon just like every other big name from another company......I don't see Sting wrestling for WWE again. WWE got what they wanted from him when they sacrificed him at Mania in a Monday Night War reenactment. And with that, of course, there are now rumors that Sting will be on RAW tonight.... Take it for what it's worth.... www.wrestlezone.com/news/612241-major-name-possibly-returning-on-wwe-raw-tomorrow-spoiler
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on Aug 24, 2015 5:15:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 6:20:42 GMT -5
Ok here's my thoughts on Summerslam which I really enjoyed.
Sheamus vs Orton- way better than most of their outings with a great and surprising finish.
Tag team match was a decent outing
Reigns and Ambrose vs The Wyatt's was SUPERB I thought.....IMO it was match of the night. Great energy and action on display here.
Amell/Neville vs Stardust/Barrett was entertaining too.....Amell is a fairly athletic chap!!
The divas had a great outing too.
Rollins vs Cena was of course a VERY good match BUT what a damn strange ending.......
Owens vs Cesaro was a cracker too but I felt it was missing something......I didn't want either guy to lose but found myself relieved that Owens didn't. Cesaro could weather this loss.....Owens? It may have been more harmful.
Brock vs UT........
Easily their best match outside of the HIAC in 2002 but man that ending is strange......eitherway there was some top quality action on display here. But man I found myself wincing at some of those Suplexs Taker was weathering.
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Post by stonecutterjeff on Aug 24, 2015 6:27:33 GMT -5
Was at summerslam last night. What a fun and great night. Crowd was awesome. Think the taker and Brock match was fun but the ending too all of us was so confusing. Idk how they portrayed it on the network will need to,watch it. When the first bell rang we were all confused. Because for most we never saw taker tap. And then Brock gives taker the middle finger and then stops moving? Whatever happened to raising the hand three times before ending the match? Guess I'm too old school. We all stood their in shock and had to wait for replays to see what happened. We def booed for awhile. And my friend and I were debating about how hurt taker was. After that f5 through the table, taker could barely stand up. It went to a ground game. Even throwing punches from the mat. From where I was sitting, when taker went to the back and he hit the cut through he fell down to the floor and crawled back. Idk if this was part of the script or not but I think another match with Brock and he might just be dead.
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Post by alexgg on Aug 24, 2015 6:46:56 GMT -5
Was at summerslam last night. What a fun and great night. Crowd was awesome. Think the taker and Brock match was fun but the ending too all of us was so confusing. Idk how they portrayed it on the network will need to,watch it. When the first bell rang we were all confused. Because for most we never saw taker tap. And then Brock gives taker the middle finger and then stops moving? Whatever happened to raising the hand three times before ending the match? Guess I'm too old school. We all stood their in shock and had to wait for replays to see what happened. We def booed for awhile. And my friend and I were debating about how hurt taker was. After that f5 through the table, taker could barely stand up. It went to a ground game. Even throwing punches from the mat. From where I was sitting, when taker went to the back and he hit the cut through he fell down to the floor and crawled back. Idk if this was part of the script or not but I think another match with Brock and he might just be dead. Yeah I was thinking it probably didn't translate well to the live crowd, it was all very confusing until the replays. I don't think they pulled it off quite right.
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Post by theafricandream on Aug 24, 2015 7:06:16 GMT -5
I thought summerslam was a 8/10 show. I would have bumped it up a star if they had bumped it down to 3 hours. It's just hard to keep momentum going for 4 straight hours plus a pre show.
I'm probably in the minority but I enjoyed the hell out of that Cena/ Rollins finish. It was surprising and makes sense with Stewart being a "wrestling fan". Now, they really have to follow it up with a strong promo that justifies his actions. I see Cena going over Rollins soon, possibly at Night of Champions.
Lastly, Undertaker/Lesnar blew me away. Lesnars performance was out of this world good. His reactions are awesome, his offense is awesome, and you can tell that he puts everything he has in to his matches. Undertaker, not to be outdone delivered his best performance since WM 28 imo. It was epic in every sense of the word. I hope guys in the back were watching because it was a master course in the art of selling and pacing. The finish was fine. It keeps Undertaker on the heel side of things and shows his desperation. I can't understand why people are saying the rubber match is a hard sell. I'm chomping at the but to see it again.
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The divas match really fell below my expectations. I'm afraid the NXT 3 have already started slipping into main roster quality. I'm just not into the "revolution "
Orton/Sheamus was fine. Right guy won.
Tag match was awesome. The new day is too hot to not have the straps and that pre match song was brilliant. PTP/New Day is a program that should for a long time. When one is champs, the other should always be in the hunt.
Props to Stephen Amell and thank god he wasn't given the pin.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 7:16:58 GMT -5
The ending to Undertaker vs Brock was just really confusing to me.
The timekeeper rings the bell, ok, but now Robinson says that Undertaker didn't tap, Lesnar claims he did, but did the decision stand and did Lesnar win? Then The Undertaker pulled Lesnar down into Hells Gate and he tapped out, with the bell ringing and Undertaker's music hitting, signalling that he won the match, even though JBL said "the match is over" during the submission? And then we're show footage of Undertaker tapping out so Lesnar did win? What?
It was just way too convoluted to understand. I thought "oh, maybe because it's 3:45am and I've had 4 hours sleep in the past 2 days it'll make more sense in the morning", but no, it still doesn't.
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Post by Chip on Aug 24, 2015 7:26:11 GMT -5
if there's one thing to take away from last night's show... the WWE is incredibly good at confusing the ing crap out of their fans
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 7:28:38 GMT -5
The ending to Undertaker vs Brock was just really confusing to me. The timekeeper rings the bell, ok, but now Robinson says that Undertaker didn't tap, Lesnar claims he did, but did the decision stand and did Lesnar win? Then The Undertaker pulled Lesnar down into Hells Gate and he tapped out, with the bell ringing and Undertaker's music hitting, signalling that he won the match, even though JBL said "the match is over" during the submission? And then we're show footage of Undertaker tapping out so Lesnar did win? What? It was just way too convoluted to understand. I thought "oh, maybe because it's 3:45am and I've had 4 hours sleep in the past 2 days it'll make more sense in the morning", but no, it still doesn't. I thought Robinson restarted the match or waved the bell off. Or said he didn't call for the bell he's the official or something. Idk tho. Convoluted as a mofo
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Post by Dan on Aug 24, 2015 8:19:51 GMT -5
What an absolute anti climax, but for me it all but confirms Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania 32 in the rubber Match, which Undertaker will ultimately win. There is no need to do this Match whatsoever, but I guess they have nobody else for Lesnar which is why they are going with it. The finish was terribley booked though. I'm guessing they needed some sort of unresolved finish whilst also giving Undertaker the win but keeping Lesnar looking strong, but it just didn't go down well live. I'm really unsure as to why Vince is so against Undertaker vs Sting. It will sell purely on the spectacle and entrances alone, none of us care for the Match, we just want to see it.
Any rub Lesnar had from the Streak is now gone since he's 'officially' lost. If they are going to just have the deciding Match at Hell in a Cell or Survivor Series then have Undertaker go on to Sting, they may as well have just had Lesnar decimate Undertaker into retirement, had Undertaker appear at Survivor Series to announce his retirement only for Sting to show up and set the Match for Wrestlemania. I've not felt this aggitated after an outcome in a long time. 2 and a half years of building Brock Lesnar into an unmissable attraction, ending Undertaker's undefeated streak, all to just lose in a messy finish to the man he originally destroyed on the biggest stage 16 months later at a Summerslam. It just becomes even more evident that the original plan was clearly to build Lesnar into the unbeatable Champion that he was only to pass the torch to Reigns at Wrestlemania 31, but with Reigns not being ready and them scrapping that plan, this whole scenario has just become a mess which they are trying to scrape together and salvage something from it. The whole thing has become horrible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 8:35:24 GMT -5
I loved the part when 'Taker was on the mat and Brock stood on his hand and said:
"I'll kill you, you son of a b***h" and then started laughing. I love how cold and remorseless he is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 8:36:37 GMT -5
Ok here's my thoughts on Summerslam which I really enjoyed. Sheamus vs Orton- way better than most of their outings with a great and surprising finish. Tag team match was a decent outing Reigns and Ambrose vs The Wyatt's was SUPERB I thought.....IMO it was match of the night. Great energy and action on display here. Amell/Neville vs Stardust/Barrett was entertaining too.....Amell is a fairly athletic chap!! The divas had a great outing too. Rollins vs Cena was of course a VERY good match BUT what a damn strange ending....... Owens vs Cesaro was a cracker too but I felt it was missing something......I didn't want either guy to lose but found myself relieved that Owens didn't. Cesaro could weather this loss.....Owens? It may have been more harmful. Brock vs UT........ Easily their best match outside of the HIAC in 2002 but man that ending is strange......eitherway there was some top quality action on display here. But man I found myself wincing at some of those Suplexs Taker was weathering. Pretty much my reaction too. Was it as good as Takeover? No. But I enjoyed it a lot.
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