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Post by marino13 on Dec 20, 2014 10:13:52 GMT -5
Clearly someone likes him as he gets some some of the better pops at the shows. Just because the people on this board have turned on him doesn't mean he's not popular to the fans. Hell last year at this time all I read on this board was Reigns was the only one it made sense to beat Taker and then go on to win the title. So why have so many of you changed your views on him? When the Shield first debut I said the one I felt had the most talent was Rollins and everyone would say I was wrong and Rollins wasn't as good of talker as Ambrose or as solid in the ring as Reigns. I think the only Ambrose fan was that kid who would put an Ambrose pic or comment in every post he made.(I am sure there were more, but most were saying Reigns) So again I ask what has changed that you guys no longer like your golden boy? I could be wrong, but I think some fans hitch their wagon to who they think should be the next big thing, but take off running the moment the world starts to agree. Like it makes them "anti-establishment" not to cheer for the WWE's golden boy. And I mean that with no disrespect either, cause most of us are guilty of it from time to time.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 20, 2014 11:54:10 GMT -5
Clearly someone likes him as he gets some some of the better pops at the shows. Just because the people on this board have turned on him doesn't mean he's not popular to the fans. Hell last year at this time all I read on this board was Reigns was the only one it made sense to beat Taker and then go on to win the title. So why have so many of you changed your views on him? When the Shield first debut I said the one I felt had the most talent was Rollins and everyone would say I was wrong and Rollins wasn't as good of talker as Ambrose or as solid in the ring as Reigns. I think the only Ambrose fan was that kid who would put an Ambrose pic or comment in every post he made.(I am sure there were more, but most were saying Reigns) So again I ask what has changed that you guys no longer like your golden boy? I could be wrong, but I think some fans hitch their wagon to who they think should be the next big thing, but take off running the moment the world starts to agree. Like it makes them "anti-establishment" not to cheer for the WWE's golden boy. And I mean that with no disrespect either, cause most of us are guilty of it from time to time. It is EXACTLY what happened with the Usos. People clamored for them to win the Tag Titles and were happy when they won. They hold it for a while, have a damn good reign and once they beat the new "hot" tag team in Harper and Rowan, it's "STUPID USOS, THE JOHN CENA OF TAG TEAMS". People turned on them rather quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 18:22:39 GMT -5
I see some have very different opionions on who's talented and what not lol. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinions.
I like Reigns. I like Ambrose. WWE has selected their guy. Too many women and children are already on the Reigns bus for them to stop it now.
And as much as I like Ambrose, I've never been amazed by his in ring work.
Putting the jet pack on Reigns and shooting him to the moon will either work or it won't. Only one way to find out.
And about the "people starting to turn on him already" thing? I highly doubt WWE is worried about 18-35 year old males booing Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 18:24:55 GMT -5
Wasn't Cena getting booed less than a year of being "the guy"?
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Dec 20, 2014 18:35:49 GMT -5
Reigns is my dude and will probably win The Rumble but Ziggy is the sleeper pick in that match.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Dec 20, 2014 19:15:59 GMT -5
Wasn't Cena getting booed less than a year of being "the guy"? I blame ECW One Night Stand 2006 for that. Cena was doing fine until RVD and Paul E started saying "wrestling fans are sick of John Cena and his brand of wrestling" over and over. Add to that the buzz over ECW for fans old and new and finally throw into the mix the Hammerstein Ballroom reaction to him setting a new tone and suddenly you have accidentally besmirched your top guy forever by making all the cool faces tell wrestling fans that they were sick of him. It's just the power of suggestion. I'm as sick of Cena as the next guy, but I didn't realise it until Paul Heyman and RVD told me so in 2006.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 19:27:40 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I think some fans hitch their wagon to who they think should be the next big thing, but take off running the moment the world starts to agree. Like it makes them "anti-establishment" not to cheer for the WWE's golden boy. And I mean that with no disrespect either, cause most of us are guilty of it from time to time. It is EXACTLY what happened with the Usos. People clamored for them to win the Tag Titles and were happy when they won. They hold it for a while, have a damn good reign and once they beat the new "hot" tag team in Harper and Rowan, it's "STUPID USOS, THE JOHN CENA OF TAG TEAMS". People turned on them rather quickly. Same thing with AJ Lee when Everyone was cheering for her only for her to be hated as soon as she took the title off paige twice and she became the female CM Punk because people feel like she was copying him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 19:36:44 GMT -5
It is EXACTLY what happened with the Usos. People clamored for them to win the Tag Titles and were happy when they won. They hold it for a while, have a damn good reign and once they beat the new "hot" tag team in Harper and Rowan, it's "STUPID USOS, THE JOHN CENA OF TAG TEAMS". People turned on them rather quickly. Same thing with AJ Lee when Everyone was cheering for her only for her to be hated as soon as she took the title off paige twice and she became the female CM Punk because people feel like she was copying him. I've hated AJ since she debuted and others agree.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 20, 2014 19:49:00 GMT -5
It is EXACTLY what happened with the Usos. People clamored for them to win the Tag Titles and were happy when they won. They hold it for a while, have a damn good reign and once they beat the new "hot" tag team in Harper and Rowan, it's "STUPID USOS, THE JOHN CENA OF TAG TEAMS". People turned on them rather quickly. Same thing with AJ Lee when Everyone was cheering for her only for her to be hated as soon as she took the title off paige twice and she became the female CM Punk because people feel like she was copying him. The main difference there is that something changed about AJ Lee. I was huge into AJ around 2012 and even after she won the title. But after her recent return, she's changed and not for the better. The Usos are the same but people turned their backs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 19:49:02 GMT -5
Same thing with AJ Lee when Everyone was cheering for her only for her to be hated as soon as she took the title off paige twice and she became the female CM Punk because people feel like she was copying him. I've hated AJ since she debuted and others agree. I wasn't really talking about you when I said that.I'm just saying just last year AJ lee was the most liked diva on here and now she's just a Female CM Punk that everyone wants gone and now all of sudden Paige is the new "Chick Of WFigs" if that makes sense. It's only a matter of time before people turn on Paige and move on to someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 19:57:42 GMT -5
Same thing with AJ Lee when Everyone was cheering for her only for her to be hated as soon as she took the title off paige twice and she became the female CM Punk because people feel like she was copying him. The main difference there is that something changed about AJ Lee. I was huge into AJ around 2012 and even after she won the title. But after her recent return, she's changed and not for the better. The Usos are the same but people turned their backs. I honestly don't see the difference between what she was doing in 2013 to 2014.The only difference is(IMO) she's Less Crazy than what she was before.She still plays the "AJ vs The World" she's not a generic babyface that smile and waves to the fans like the others she actually Stands out from the rest.If anything Aj is a Heel and a Face. The problem is that now that she's dating punk and all these stories coming out people are gonna assume she's change when really she hasn't.And now everytime she does something like a promo or something people are gonna assume shes a punk copycat.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 20, 2014 20:00:13 GMT -5
The main difference there is that something changed about AJ Lee. I was huge into AJ around 2012 and even after she won the title. But after her recent return, she's changed and not for the better. The Usos are the same but people turned their backs. I honestly don't see the difference between what she was doing in 2013 to 2014.The only difference is(IMO) she's Less Crazy than what she was before.She still plays the "AJ vs The World" she's not a generic babyface that smile and waves to the fans like the others she actually Stands out from the rest.If anything Aj is a Heel and a Face. The problem is that now that she's dating punk and all these stories coming out people are gonna assume she's change when really she hasn't.And now everytime she does something like a promo or something people are gonna assume shes a punk copycat. I don't care that she's married to CM Punk. That makes me like her more, but I just enjoyed her way more in 2012. I've loved Paige since her SHIMMER days, so I'm not one of those who just changed. I enjoy both girls.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 20:15:10 GMT -5
Also its kinda funny how nobody is complaining that Luke Harper just lost the title to ziggler only for Ziggler to win it back.No ZigglerWinsLOL but if it was roman reigns it would be World War 3.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 20, 2014 20:17:21 GMT -5
Also its kinda funny how nobody is complaining that Luke Harper just lost the title to ziggler only for Ziggler to win it back.No ZigglerWinsLOL but if it was roman reigns it would be World War 3. Well that's because Ziggler doesn't always win. He's traded the IC Title with multiple people, but has been pinned as recently as what, Raw two weeks ago by Seth Rollins? Roman Reigns is someone that isn't ready to be THE GUY but is going to be pushed as so, which makes people unhappy. I'm okay with Roman as the guy, but when he's ready. 2015 is not that time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 20:23:56 GMT -5
Also its kinda funny how nobody is complaining that Luke Harper just lost the title to ziggler only for Ziggler to win it back.No ZigglerWinsLOL but if it was roman reigns it would be World War 3. Well that's because Ziggler doesn't always win. He's traded the IC Title with multiple people, but has been pinned as recently as what, Raw two weeks ago by Seth Rollins? Roman Reigns is someone that isn't ready to be THE GUY but is going to be pushed as so, which makes people unhappy. I'm okay with Roman as the guy, but when he's ready. 2015 is not that time. But this is the Intercontinental Championship I'm talking about.Ziggler was IC champ only for miz to win it only for Ziggler to win it back then luke would win only for Ziggler to win it back.A little too much? Is that not worthy of a ZigglerWinsLOL?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 20, 2014 20:25:45 GMT -5
Well that's because Ziggler doesn't always win. He's traded the IC Title with multiple people, but has been pinned as recently as what, Raw two weeks ago by Seth Rollins? Roman Reigns is someone that isn't ready to be THE GUY but is going to be pushed as so, which makes people unhappy. I'm okay with Roman as the guy, but when he's ready. 2015 is not that time. But this is the Intercontinental Championship I'm talking about.Ziggler was IC champ only for miz to win it only for Ziggler to win it back then luke would win only for Ziggler to win it back.A little too much? Is that not worthy of a ZigglerWinsLOL? No, because as you said, he loses it. He's not this dominant guy who beats everyone when the title is on the line. That's the point of "CenaWinsLOL" and "RomanWinsLOL". They are supermen who never lose. That's not Dolph.
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Dec 20, 2014 20:40:42 GMT -5
ZigglerWinsSometimesLOL
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Post by The Yes Man on Dec 20, 2014 20:58:01 GMT -5
Wasn't Cena getting booed less than a year of being "the guy"? I blame ECW One Night Stand 2006 for that. Cena was doing fine until RVD and Paul E started saying "wrestling fans are sick of John Cena and his brand of wrestling" over and over. Add to that the buzz over ECW for fans old and new and finally throw into the mix the Hammerstein Ballroom reaction to him setting a new tone and suddenly you have accidentally besmirched your top guy forever by making all the cool faces tell wrestling fans that they were sick of him. It's just the power of suggestion. I'm as sick of Cena as the next guy, but I didn't realise it until Paul Heyman and RVD told me so in 2006. He was already being boo'd by WrestleMania 22 against Triple H
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Post by marino13 on Dec 20, 2014 22:49:25 GMT -5
I know this is off topic but since it's been brought up... the first time I remember Cena being boo'ed was his RAW feud with Kurt Angle. Which was his second feud after being drafted to RAW. Here is a clip...
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Post by Planktung on Dec 20, 2014 23:10:24 GMT -5
New Year's Revolution 2006 was the first time I really noticed the disdain for John Cena. At the time, the nature of professional wrestling had not been "exposed" to me yet fully, so it was something that genuinely shocked me. I don't mean to continuously be the "lol Roman Reigns" guy, but I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE for him to receive the same crowd treatment at the Royal Rumble.
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