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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 30, 2014 7:54:29 GMT -5
Also there is now a $9.99 monthly option with no six month commitment.
These drastic measures are because they've still only got 731,000 subscribers. No wonder Vince's eyes look so sad in the video.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 7:55:52 GMT -5
They are so desperate.
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Post by LtD73 on Oct 30, 2014 8:00:34 GMT -5
Is it only for new subscribers? Only got a month and it runs out in 2 weeks, really enjoying it tbh
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Post by iamkrang on Oct 30, 2014 8:05:14 GMT -5
Wow. The numbers may be startling today.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 30, 2014 8:19:43 GMT -5
Not a bad move. I do think they need to do something to keep the people who have it since day one.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Oct 30, 2014 8:20:39 GMT -5
FYI Subscribers numbers are said to be at 731,000.
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Post by T R W on Oct 30, 2014 8:22:03 GMT -5
The numbers are probably still not that great (to be expected the first year or so) but the changes to the subscription model were needed and are a good change. They are now on par with most streaming services like Netflix, where it is more flexible. I think some people (especially parents) weren't crazy about the 6 month commitment. Hopefully this helps in the long run.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 30, 2014 8:30:57 GMT -5
FYI Subscribers numbers are said to be at 731,000. Just saw that. That's a horrendous number, only 30,000 ahead of the last time. So the big international rollout (albeit without their second biggest market so far) added just 30,000 customers... Goes to show that the majority of people worldwide who wanted the network already had it as unofficial US subscribers. This thing's a bust. I guess there just aren't many people interested in the millionth replay of DX driving to WCW.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 30, 2014 8:56:23 GMT -5
They keep doing these free trial periods for new members, or like over the summer they did the deal where you would get a WWESHOP gift card for subscribing, and for every person you got to sign up.....what about perks for those of us who signed up on day one and have stuck with it the whole time?
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 30, 2014 8:59:52 GMT -5
They keep doing these free trial periods for new members, or like over the summer they did the deal where you would get a WWESHOP gift card for subscribing, and for every person you got to sign up.....what about perks for those of us who signed up on day one and have stuck with it the whole time? What, having 24/7 access to documentaries where people talk about the same old attitude era clips isn't enough of a perk for you? This guy!
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Oct 30, 2014 9:10:49 GMT -5
The numbers are probably still not that great (to be expected the first year or so) but the changes to the subscription model were needed and are a good change. They are now on par with most streaming services like Netflix, where it is more flexible. I think some people (especially parents) weren't crazy about the 6 month commitment. Hopefully this helps in the long run. You can't compare Netflix to the WWE Network. Netflix appeals to a far more broader audience than the WWE Network. I hate to say this but the network is sinking. When you have to offer something for free (including one of your major PPV's), it shows how desperate the WWE is with how well their network is doing. At this juncture, the network is slowly sinking. The WWE needs to do a complete 180 and see what is working and what isn't working. The WWE was better off making deals with cable and satellite providers to launch the network and using their streaming service as their VOD outlet. It would be interesting when the next subscriber number comes out that factors both Ireland and the UK. If the number is over or at one million, the network can easily swim and come ashore. If it is below one million, the network is going to continue to sink.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Oct 30, 2014 9:14:09 GMT -5
The numbers are probably still not that great (to be expected the first year or so) but the changes to the subscription model were needed and are a good change. They are now on par with most streaming services like Netflix, where it is more flexible. I think some people (especially parents) weren't crazy about the 6 month commitment. Hopefully this helps in the long run. Yeah a 6 month commitment is quite a long time. Kids tent to get disinterested in things quickly and sometimes too much of something they enjoy puts em off I was talking to someone in work about it the other day she was saying they get mania and summerslam but 15 is so expensive especially when her youngest 2 fall asleep around the 3am mark. Add in the cost of pizza or ShowTime munchies.
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Post by Infinite on Oct 30, 2014 9:40:00 GMT -5
I'm hoping low numbers = low prices when the network finally gets to the UK.
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Post by Daria on Oct 30, 2014 9:43:29 GMT -5
I think wwe should advertise an only wwe network available ppv that way it would bring in more buyers
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Post by LtD73 on Oct 30, 2014 9:52:23 GMT -5
I'm hoping low numbers = low prices when the network finally gets to the UK. They've already flatlined themselves with the UK market UK Fans will have already go into the network by other ways The UK fans that didn't already have the network (me being included) were excited for the launch on Oct 1st, got pushed back New UK Launch date is being announced Saturday (Nov 1st) Honestly I see a lot of UK fans who are sick of waiting, they'll go for this free month sub even if it does launch Nov 1st which they seem to have no intentions of. Only people who will be getting the network when it comes to the UK will be people who aren't as adjusted online as others and parents for their children. Not to mention, UK are probably going to pay more for the network, I think it worked out at £8.13 for me for the month, thats when it was $12.99 too.
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Post by T R W on Oct 30, 2014 9:53:44 GMT -5
The numbers are probably still not that great (to be expected the first year or so) but the changes to the subscription model were needed and are a good change. They are now on par with most streaming services like Netflix, where it is more flexible. I think some people (especially parents) weren't crazy about the 6 month commitment. Hopefully this helps in the long run. You can't compare Netflix to the WWE Network. Netflix appeals to a far more broader audience than the WWE Network. I hate to say this but the network is sinking. When you have to offer something for free (including one of your major PPV's), it shows how desperate the WWE is with how well their network is doing. At this juncture, the network is slowly sinking. The WWE needs to do a complete 180 and see what is working and what isn't working. The WWE was better off making deals with cable and satellite providers to launch the network and using their streaming service as their VOD outlet. It would be interesting when the next subscriber number comes out that factors both Ireland and the UK. If the number is over or at one million, the network can easily swim and come ashore. If it is below one million, the network is going to continue to sink. They are still gaining subscribers. It isn't sinking. It isn't rising as quick as they hoped or liked, but it isn't sinking. Netflix gives away free trials like nothing. Free is a business strategy to hopefully get people hooked. Not necessarily a sign things are bad. Obviously Netflix is more appealing to a broader audience.But modeling the network after them is a smart move. Asking wrestling fans (who in general are not exactly the most affluent) to 6 months is a lot. Giving people the option to subscribe without it was a smart move. Hopefully getting into the UK will help the Network grow more. They also need to start finding ways to re-vamp the catalog as well, and of course making the WWE "must-watch tv" would be a good start too. Anyone with a brain knew the Network would not be profitable for the first year or so. It's a very forward thinking model, and they need to be patient and stay the course, and continue to improve the actual product, and not panic and scrap it. And to be honest, they can't scrap it. Nobody is going to go back to $60 PPVs anymore.
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Post by J12 on Oct 30, 2014 9:53:58 GMT -5
While I think it's a positive move to ditch the 6 month commitment, things are looking a little dire.
The international number is startling, truly.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 30, 2014 9:58:41 GMT -5
It would help if their international rollout didn't blow. Not having it be an actual streaming service sucks because the live stream is INCREDIBLY repetitive and sometimes dull. Also, not having it available for everyone in Canada is terrible.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Oct 30, 2014 10:05:47 GMT -5
You can't compare Netflix to the WWE Network. Netflix appeals to a far more broader audience than the WWE Network. I hate to say this but the network is sinking. When you have to offer something for free (including one of your major PPV's), it shows how desperate the WWE is with how well their network is doing. At this juncture, the network is slowly sinking. The WWE needs to do a complete 180 and see what is working and what isn't working. The WWE was better off making deals with cable and satellite providers to launch the network and using their streaming service as their VOD outlet. It would be interesting when the next subscriber number comes out that factors both Ireland and the UK. If the number is over or at one million, the network can easily swim and come ashore. If it is below one million, the network is going to continue to sink. They are still gaining subscribers. It isn't sinking. It isn't rising as quick as they hoped or liked, but it isn't sinking. Netflix gives away free trials like nothing. Free is a business strategy to hopefully get people hooked. Not necessarily a sign things are bad. Obviously Netflix is more appealing to a broader audience.But modeling the network after them is a smart move. Asking wrestling fans (who in general are not exactly the most affluent) to 6 months is a lot. Giving people the option to subscribe without it was a smart move. Hopefully getting into the UK will help the Network grow more. They also need to start finding ways to re-vamp the catalog as well, and of course making the WWE "must-watch tv" would be a good start too. Anyone with a brain knew the Network would not be profitable for the first year or so. It's a very forward thinking model, and they need to be patient and stay the course, and continue to improve the actual product, and not panic and scrap it. And to be honest, they can't scrap it. Nobody is going to go back to $60 PPVs anymore. I will hold off any judgment when the next number comes out. I am aware both the UK and Ireland have a lot of wrestling fans. Will that translate into many more subscribers, we shall wait and see. The 31,000 increase isn't much. I am sticking to my word and stating the network is sinking. Also, i am aware that any new venture is bound to lose any company money. As for your last statement, if people had to fork over sixty bucks for a show, so be it. It would help if their international rollout didn't blow. Not having it be an actual streaming service sucks because the live stream is INCREDIBLY repetitive and sometimes dull. Also, not having it available for everyone in Canada is terrible. You can thank the CRTC (Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission) for the way the network is in Canada. Rogers Communication is helping the WWE gain a CRTC license so the network can be rolled out all over Canada.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 30, 2014 10:38:50 GMT -5
I am aware both the UK and Ireland have a lot of wrestling fans. The UK and Ireland have a lot of wrestling fans who already subscribe to the network. That's the trouble that WWE are facing with the international launch... It's so easy for fans around the world to subscribe to the US network, that there isn't a great number of interested fans worldwide who haven't already done so.
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