Rob7274
Main Eventer
Joined on: Sept 3, 2010 5:46:16 GMT -5
Posts: 3,821
|
Post by Rob7274 on Aug 13, 2011 12:35:39 GMT -5
Mattel has done phenomenal... and what they've put out has blown JAKKS out of the water. But we expect improvements as time goes on. Just like BCA to TTL to RA. The problem isn't specifically and exclusively with The Miz 11, it is what's too come. First it was the stands, then the packaging (small detail, but they took out the window in the back which was cool for MOC collectors), then the belts, what's next? The point is it's their premium line for the current roster, and if they are going to include something, they should not half-ass it. The funniest thing is how some of you defend Mattel no matter what. As I said, they are awesome figures. But this doesn't give them a free pass for absolutely everything. And the prices have been raised everywhere, TRU being the most expensive, but even at Wal-Mart now they are over 16 bucks. That's expensive for a single figure. The quality should stay status-quo if the price is rising. There shouldn't be a quality decline and a price increase. Again Totally agree!!!
|
|
|
Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Aug 13, 2011 12:45:21 GMT -5
The funniest thing is how some of you defend Mattel no matter what. As I said, they are awesome figures. But this doesn't give them a free pass for absolutely everything. Nobody said it did. There are a lot of problems with the figures that Mattel should fix, particularly the numerous quality control errors like paint screw-ups and joints that are too loose/tight. Those are things that shouldn't be occurring in the premium line. False. As someone posted above, there are chain stores in their area that haven't increased the prices. In the UK, they've stayed at £12.99 everywhere (except the comic/import stores which charge more) from series 1 onwards. Mattel have taken cost-cutting measures to ensure their price stays the same. They're still charging retailers the same for an elite figure as they always were, any price increase in the last year and a half is on the retailer. If Mattel were increasing their budgets for the elite line, then the retail price would be even higher than it is.
|
|
|
Post by mrhoss on Aug 13, 2011 17:50:24 GMT -5
early afternoon movie ticket = $6 Large popcorn + large soda = $13 (I smuggled in candy) Legends figure at TRU = $12.99
|
|
|
Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Aug 14, 2011 0:12:25 GMT -5
False. As someone posted above, there are chain stores in their area that haven't increased the prices. In the UK, they've stayed at £12.99 everywhere (except the comic/import stores which charge more) from series 1 onwards. Mattel have taken cost-cutting measures to ensure their price stays the same. They're still charging retailers the same for an elite figure as they always were, any price increase in the last year and a half is on the retailer. If Mattel were increasing their budgets for the elite line, then the retail price would be even higher than it is. This really is one of the biggest misconceptions people have. Producers/companies can set a recommended retail price for the product but the ultimate price you see is determined by the stores themselves. People keep mentioning these price rises and such but there been a fair few instances design team guys have confirmed that they have not changed their pricing since Jan 2010. It is the stores fault and if thats the case, its best to shop elsewhere to make a statement to that store unless stores in the US or wherever price match like some do here in Aus.
|
|
|
Post by comintogetcha on Aug 14, 2011 0:28:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure where the misconception comes from that guys like John Cena or Rey Mysterio or Undertaker don't require more sophisticated accessories compared to guys like Sheamus, simply on the basis of the fact that the more popular guys will sell regardless. Around here, it's the popular guys like Cena, Orton, etc. that sit and rot on the shelf. They're so overproduced and no one is really interested in buying duplicates of characters they already have, even if it is an update costume. It's the less popular guys like Zach Ryder, Yoshi Tatsu, Sheamus, Wade Barret etc. that are damn near impossible to find on the shelves unless you get there the day they're put out. Those are the guys that will sell regardless and don't need the accessories. Now granted, part of this is because the less popular characters are short packed and the more popular guys are packed in greater quantities, but it's still not a valid point.
|
|
fearofdread
Superstar
Joined on: Nov 18, 2010 12:40:53 GMT -5
Posts: 560
|
Post by fearofdread on Aug 14, 2011 2:09:24 GMT -5
early afternoon movie ticket = $6 Large popcorn + large soda = $13 (I smuggled in candy) Legends figure at TRU = $12.99 Where do you live? First show of the day at the multiplex (not first show of any movie, but first show at all)- $8 Afternoon (or evening or night) show- $13 (with a note that your show might be disturbed by the demolition going on next door) Large popcorn and large soda- $14 or so At least, that is the burden we pay here in NYC. But one question I haven't seen asked, to get on point, has the elite budget stayed the same regardless of materials increases? Has it gone up to match costs? Has it been reduced since it is a more specialty item? Also, as for store prices, as has been said before, it has nothing to do with mattel. TRU can have prices vary by $1-2 depending on what side of a city you are on. Target will have some things on sale at store #1 and something else marked down at store #2. Arguing over cost increases by stores with a manufacturer is pointless. The only way they can effect a stores price is by possibly lowering their costs. That still doesn't mean that the store will reduce their price, especially if it sells at the current price. If store A buys a figure for $8 and marks it up to $16 and it sells, if the manufacturer next sells them the figure for 7.50, the store may not lower their price to 15.00 seeing as how people bought the product for $16 before and now it is just more profit. That's my 2 cents business wise
|
|
|
Post by Chewdeezy on Aug 14, 2011 3:56:17 GMT -5
I dunno guys, if Elites are getting too expensive for you. Perhaps should switch to basics.
If I was a young collector collecting Mattels, I would just be buying basics since 1 Elite is almost the same price as 2 Basic figures.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 18, 2024 22:10:49 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 5:12:13 GMT -5
For 's sake. This is just sad and pitiful. Oh no, Mattel didn't release a shiny belt or a cloth shirt, might as well off myself since there is no point in living any more. Mattel has been nothing short of greatness with this line and you're going to bitch over a non-shiny belt or a rubber shirt? Whole heartedly agree with ya mate... I could care less about accessories as long as the figs themselves keep looking up to par with what we have gtten so far from Mattel... And I think the Rey rubber shirt from the pics I have seen on here of it looks decent
|
|
|
Post by PJ on Aug 14, 2011 6:07:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure where the misconception comes from that guys like John Cena or Rey Mysterio or Undertaker don't require more sophisticated accessories compared to guys like Sheamus, simply on the basis of the fact that the more popular guys will sell regardless. Around here, it's the popular guys like Cena, Orton, etc. that sit and rot on the shelf. They're so overproduced and no one is really interested in buying duplicates of characters they already have, even if it is an update costume. It's the less popular guys like Zach Ryder, Yoshi Tatsu, Sheamus, Wade Barret etc. that are damn near impossible to find on the shelves unless you get there the day they're put out. And that's where I have to disagree because retailers know that if there's 100 Cena figures on the pegs next to 100 Ryder figures in the long run the Cena's will sell out first. After the few collectors in you area buy their Ryder figures the rest will just sit there were the Cena's will move little by little each week. One of my TRU's has Elite Series 8 - 3 Sheamus, 2 Bourne, 2 Takers (Damaged cards sorry Ministry) and at least 7 Regal figures. If I remember correctly from RSC they said Regal was a 1 per every other case figure (Like the Hart Dynasty in Series 7). The Monroe NY WalMart had 1 Taker and 3 Regal's on the pegsand the Target had 1 Sheamus and 1 Regal. And Personally I think the Regal is the best in the set followed by Sheamus yet they is still there and the popular Taker seems to have been the best moving one if you compare what was left. Although to be fair I do think Sheamus was the heavy packed figure in Series 8. Hell, one of my area TRU has the buy 2 for $16 sale going on and last Sunday they had multiple characters of FF and about 15 Sheamus (TLC & Series 11). I've been going there daily hoping they'd get PPV9, but they haven't received anything new all week and guess what the FlexForce is almost gone yet none of the Basic Sheamus figures have moved.
|
|
|
Post by mrhoss on Aug 14, 2011 7:16:23 GMT -5
early afternoon movie ticket = $6 Large popcorn + large soda = $13 (I smuggled in candy) Legends figure at TRU = $12.99 Where do you live? First show of the day at the multiplex (not first show of any movie, but first show at all)- $8 Afternoon (or evening or night) show- $13 (with a note that your show might be disturbed by the demolition going on next door) Large popcorn and large soda- $14 or so At least, that is the burden we pay here in NYC. I live in CT with a population that's a small fraction of NYC. I think it's crazy sometimes when we complain about Mattel prices. How much money went into making that popcorn and soda? We keep talking about labor and material costs. But I don't know if anyone mentioned shipping costs. Things don't magically appear on the shelves. When Target or Walmart increased prices by, say a dollar, some of the increased fuel costs were probably passed on to the customers (I'm sure other items across the store went up in price too).
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 18, 2024 22:10:49 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 8:48:11 GMT -5
early afternoon movie ticket = $6 Large popcorn + large soda = $13 (I smuggled in candy) Legends figure at TRU = $12.99 Canada; Bag of Milk - $7 Frozen Pizza - $8 Salad - $6 2 Cheeseburgers with fries and Pop @ Dairy Queen - $25 Legends Figure - $19 Still Less Than 2 Eating for cheap Or Elite Figure @ $20 VS Blu Ray Disc @ +$20Which would you get more Use out of ?
|
|
They See Me Rollins
Main Eventer
The Future is Here!
Joined on: Jun 10, 2010 21:38:36 GMT -5
Posts: 1,296
|
Post by They See Me Rollins on Aug 14, 2011 9:10:11 GMT -5
I am getting married and my fund are stretched waaaaaaaaaaaaay thin. But I still buy as much as I can. I just love Mattel. As for the belt. I have sheamus' thats the only one I need. Now I'm just waiting for the Tag titles, a smaller US title, and a shiny World title.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 18, 2024 22:10:49 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 12:55:40 GMT -5
you know this wouldnt be happening if they would just get rid of the ing Flex force. Nobody cares about flex force. Rumblers too get rid of that crap. Only thing they should have is basic, legends, two packs, elite, defining moments, and ringside exclusives of course.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 18, 2024 22:10:49 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 12:56:45 GMT -5
lol they cencored my language i said s h i t and they replaced it with poop.
|
|
|
Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Aug 14, 2011 15:15:54 GMT -5
you know this wouldnt be happening if they would just get rid of the ing Flex force. Nobody cares about flex force. Rumblers too get rid of that poop. Only thing they should have is basic, legends, two packs, elite, defining moments, and ringside exclusives of course. Nonsense. You're confusing "figures you like" with "figures that sell." You might hate the Flex Force and Rumblers, but they sell.
|
|
|
Post by LA Times on Aug 14, 2011 16:03:52 GMT -5
you know this wouldnt be happening if they would just get rid of the ing Flex force. Nobody cares about flex force. Rumblers too get rid of that poop. Only thing they should have is basic, legends, two packs, elite, defining moments, and ringside exclusives of course. Nonsense. You're confusing "figures you like" with "figures that sell." You might hate the Flex Force and Rumblers, but they sell. I am not sure if the TRUs in my area has sold any Flex Force or Rumblers since Jan 2010, but they are perfect for kids 5-7.
|
|
|
Post by muccguy88 on Aug 14, 2011 17:55:39 GMT -5
early afternoon movie ticket = $6 Large popcorn + large soda = $13 (I smuggled in candy) Legends figure at TRU = $12.99 Canada; Bag of Milk - $7 Frozen Pizza - $8 Salad - $6 2 Cheeseburgers with fries and Pop @ Dairy Queen - $25 Legends Figure - $19 Still Less Than 2 Eating for cheap Or Elite Figure @ $20 VS Blu Ray Disc @ +$20Which would you get more Use out of ? I'm sorry but I have to ask, do they actually sell bags of milk in Canada? I've never heard of that before. Anyway, to keep this on topic, some people need to understand something about a budget. I've seen some people saying that the cost reduction and budget reasoning Mattel gave is BS because Mattel makes so much money. Well how do you think they made that money? They made it by carefully trying to control their expenses. If they are making a lot of money, the idea is o continue that, not just throw budgets out the window because they have a lot of money. If they stopped caring about budgets, the business would be in the toilet because they wouldn't be able to control their spending. Therefore, Mattel allots a certain amount of money to the WWE line that can be spent on each set. If they need to cut costs somehow, then that is what they have to do because they only have so much money they are allowed to spend. Also, I'm sure if they don't use like at least 90% of that money budgeted for them, their budget would probably get cut the next time, since it would seem like they don't need all that money. This might be a bad example but let's say that maybe they could have done the Elite 11 Miz with a shiny belt and no briefcase. However, maybe the costs worked out that going that route would have left them too far under budget. It's kind of a tough balancing act the different divisions have to perform to deliver the best product. Also, while Mattel should have the customer's best interest in mind, it does make sense that they have to look out for themselves first. They are in business to benefit themselves first and foremost. If their sole goal was to just give us amazing stuff for whatever it costs, then they would be a not for profit company. Mattel isn't any kind of charity and they are perfectly allowed to manage there costs any way they want so that they can maintain a certain profit level.
|
|
|
Post by Lego Customs! on Aug 14, 2011 18:17:07 GMT -5
Canada; Bag of Milk - $7 Frozen Pizza - $8 Salad - $6 2 Cheeseburgers with fries and Pop @ Dairy Queen - $25 Legends Figure - $19 Still Less Than 2 Eating for cheap Or Elite Figure @ $20 VS Blu Ray Disc @ +$20Which would you get more Use out of ? I'm sorry but I have to ask, do they actually sell bags of milk in Canada? I've never heard of that before. I've seen bags of Milk sold here in England.
|
|
|
Post by muccguy88 on Aug 14, 2011 18:23:24 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I have to ask, do they actually sell bags of milk in Canada? I've never heard of that before. I've seen bags of Milk sold here in England. That's really interesting. Are the bags like really strong? Here in America you really don't see bags of liquid. I don't know why I find this so interesting, but I do. Learn something new every day I guess. lol
|
|
|
Post by mrhoss on Aug 14, 2011 18:28:08 GMT -5
muccguy88, that sounded like a great explanation. The milk question also made me laugh, I thought the same. Although at McDonalds I saw a woman refill the Mocha Frappe machine with a big bag of brown liquidy stuff, enjoy your meal.
|
|