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Post by gordon on May 20, 2008 2:52:59 GMT -5
Hair isnt an issue, its performance, character and wrestling ability and HBK ticks all three. Taker is the best he has ever been, there is no doubt in my mind on that one.
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Post by rkolegendkilla on May 20, 2008 3:47:58 GMT -5
Would anyone look at HBK differently if he completely shaved his head? I wouldn't. I mean Kurt Angle had a similar hairline to HBK....he shaved his head and it looks fine. It'd take a while to get used to, that's for sure. He should just try hair regrowth.
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Post by chuds on May 20, 2008 5:35:50 GMT -5
when ever i have seen them in interviews, they basiclly say that "giving it there a game" is not want they want so much. But what they want to do is elevate upcoming stars and pass the torch to them.
So kennedy having a match and beating hbk is how its done.
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Post by carly1988 on May 20, 2008 6:19:52 GMT -5
Gimmick wise I think it helps Undertaker more. I mean seriously when you think of a "Deadman" you dont think of a young perky 24 yo. The only thing it seems is hurting Taker is injuries and needing time off. HBK on the other hand is a joke. The whole boy toy gimmick should have died 10 years ago. Since hes got the new tights he needs to get some new music and stop dancing around like a member of Nsync
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Post by fallenhero on May 20, 2008 6:21:46 GMT -5
Since hes got the new tights he needs to get some new music and stop dancing around like a member of Nsync Dude...if he's not doing that...he's not Shawn Michaels. That's like wanting Flair to stop wearing robes and wooing. You do that, you take away what makes them unique.
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Post by carly1988 on May 20, 2008 21:24:34 GMT -5
Since hes got the new tights he needs to get some new music and stop dancing around like a member of Nsync Dude...if he's not doing that...he's not Shawn Michaels. That's like wanting Flair to stop wearing robes and wooing. You do that, you take away what makes them unique. Whhooing and wearing a robe is totally different from dancing around and acting like you're a male stripper. Evolution catches up with everyone. Its like with Hogan with long tights and head bands. Shawn Michaels isnt the "Sexiest man alive in the WWE" anymore. Sting did it as well when he realized he wasnt the 20yo wild and crazy surfer cali kid
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Post by Hollywood Asia on May 20, 2008 23:02:09 GMT -5
Dude...if he's not doing that...he's not Shawn Michaels. That's like wanting Flair to stop wearing robes and wooing. You do that, you take away what makes them unique. Whhooing and wearing a robe is totally different from dancing around and acting like you're a male stripper. Evolution catches up with everyone. Its like with Hogan with long tights and head bands. Shawn Michaels isnt the "Sexiest man alive in the WWE" anymore. Sting did it as well when he realized he wasnt the 20yo wild and crazy surfer cali kid I think he still pulls it off and Women still find him attractive
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Post by WalterF on May 21, 2008 0:04:57 GMT -5
Whhooing and wearing a robe is totally different from dancing around and acting like you're a male stripper. Evolution catches up with everyone. Its like with Hogan with long tights and head bands. Shawn Michaels isnt the "Sexiest man alive in the WWE" anymore. Sting did it as well when he realized he wasnt the 20yo wild and crazy surfer cali kid I think he still pulls it off and Women still find him attractive Honestly I dont know why people stil say HBK is trying to keep his boytoy gimmick going. He has kept the music because it is synonymous with him as a wrestler and to be honest, when he comes out to the ring he dances only a little bit. He used to dance a lot more. So I dont think its fair for people to say HBK is trying to be a boytoy because honestly he deosnt act like hes trying to that gimmick at all. He just keeps his music because its classic and moves when he gets into the ring because the music is uppity and would look sillier for him to just walk generically with such upbeat music. His attire and look have changed and matured. Just because he has his classic music doesnt mean he prances around and tries to be a boytoy. Sorry to be longwinded but I get so annoyed when people say this. When recentlt has HBK ever said in a promo that he is the sexiest man in the WWE? He hasnt done or said anything to make anyone think he cant let go of the sexy boy gimmick. Just because he keeps his classic music because its classic doesnt mean anything. On a whole, to be honest, he acts very serious and completely different than he did in, for example 96 or 97.
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Post by dgnr8 on May 21, 2008 4:06:09 GMT -5
Of course the older guys performance will slowly decline with the passing time. Years go by and the older guys have to start tweaking their movesets to better-suit their abilities. However, its MY opinion that Shawn & Taker's performances wouldn't suffer so much, or at least seem to suffer so much, if they were still giving their respective gimmicks a full effort. Let me put it like this;
Shawn Michaels is supposed to be the "boy toy", "the icon", "the main event"... but nowadays he's so family oriented and wrapped up in his religion that he strays away from that. He's still Shawn Michaels but he's less in-your-face, less charismatic, and less into the character all together. That by itself makes his performance less impactful even to your casual fan. Couple that with his aging and his performance seems even less worthy of the once great Heartbreak Kid.
Now take Undertaker... same general concept. He seems to have given up on his "Phenom" gimmick. Same music, same entrance... completely different in the ring. It doesn't feel ominous anymore. He's not selling the gimmick so it feels less special before the match even begins.
BTW, I am a HUGE mark for both Taker AND Shawn.
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