Credit Nodq Posted by Bobby Spade on 12/20/2007 at 01:05 PM
Internally, the feeling on Mr. Kennedy is that his current program with Shawn Michaels is a "sink or swim" opportunity for him. The feeling is that if doesn't rise to the occasion to stand out in his program feud with HBK, he'll be relegated to mid-card status for the foreseeable future. According to one source, he's listening to pretty much anyone and everyone for advice on how to improve in the ring, including creative team writers. He used to be very close with Steve Austin, but Austin said in a recent interview that he is listening to too many people. Kennedy is said to have little confidence in his own instincts as a performer, which might explain why he's often trying new things and different finishers in his matches as of late.
Post by DgenerationX092 on Dec 21, 2007 2:40:11 GMT -5
maybe this will shut the fans up who think that if you have good enough charisma you can hang with the big boys. charisma doesnt win or lose matches, and has little to no value during the match.
MVP, Kennedy, and others all have a bandwagon of marks because their good on the mic but are still rookies who have a long way to go before their deserving enough of their hype.
Edge falls into this category too. sure hes definitly not a rookie, but ever since he got his charismatic Rated R gimmick, hes suddenly the greatest wrestler in WWE.
but still, for some reason, Cena is hated. Hes been charismatic since he debuted against kurt angle. And im positive that most people here, who hate cena, were fans of him when he was in those short tights.(im also sure, people hate cena because of his attire. jeans are untraditional.) He backs himself up in the ring as a great perfomer, but his matches are only recognized because he has a handful of signature moves or "tEh F!\/3 M0v3$ 0f D00m!!"
thats why im a CM Punk fan. hes barly got any charisma, but is great in the ring. but still, isnt deserving enough of the big titles yet.
it just goes to show that fans really dont know what they want. the same people who hate cena's wrestling, find edge to be the best. when he sucks in the ring too! and you all want the same thing "good matches" but still, it all goes back to the bandwagon of wrestlers who are chaismatic. people need to decide what they like more: good matches or good mic skills.
Post by tnafan4life on Dec 21, 2007 2:48:56 GMT -5
dgenerationx092 said:
maybe this will shut the fans up who think that if you have good enough charisma you can hang with the big boys. charisma doesnt win or lose matches, and has little to no value during the match.
MVP, Kennedy, and others all have a bandwagon of marks because their good on the mic but are still rookies who have a long way to go before their deserving enough of their hype.
Edge falls into this category too. sure hes definitly not a rookie, but ever since he got his charismatic Rated R gimmick, hes suddenly the greatest wrestler in WWE.
but still, for some reason, Cena is hated. Hes been charismatic since he debuted against kurt angle. And im positive that most people here, who hate cena, were fans of him when he was in those short tights.(im also sure, people hate cena because of his attire. jeans are untraditional.) He backs himself up in the ring as a great perfomer, but his matches are only recognized because he has a handful of signature moves or "tEh F!\/3 M0v3$ 0f D00m!!"
thats why im a CM Punk fan. hes barly got any charisma, but is great in the ring. but still, isnt deserving enough of the big titles yet.
it just goes to show that fans really dont know what they want. the same people who hate cena's wrestling, find edge to be the best. when he sucks in the ring too! and you all want the same thing "good matches" but still, it all goes back to the bandwagon of wrestlers who are chaismatic. people need to decide what they like more: good matches or good mic skills.
You're so right about that one.. the writers do
Here's the thing..
Kennedy is diffrent but can still go. Kennedy is not one of these younger guys who "belives his own hype" & thinks he's the greatest who ever lived & feels like he can't be touched. He can go out there & deliver but gets crapupon (HE JOBBED TO SUPER ING CRAZY PEOPLE!).
Kennedy - Has enough talent in the ring for me to be a fan Kennedy - Has enough charisma for me to be a fan
So, I feel WWE needs to stop pulling a "Christian" on him (giving him the ball & taking it back only to give it to him agian & take it back etc etc) & give him the damn ball & let him sink or swim. If he sinks let him drown.
maybe this will shut the fans up who think that if you have good enough charisma you can hang with the big boys. charisma doesnt win or lose matches, and has little to no value during the match.
MVP, Kennedy, and others all have a bandwagon of marks because their good on the mic but are still rookies who have a long way to go before their deserving enough of their hype.
Edge falls into this category too. sure hes definitly not a rookie, but ever since he got his charismatic Rated R gimmick, hes suddenly the greatest wrestler in WWE.
but still, for some reason, Cena is hated. Hes been charismatic since he debuted against kurt angle. And im positive that most people here, who hate cena, were fans of him when he was in those short tights.(im also sure, people hate cena because of his attire. jeans are untraditional.) He backs himself up in the ring as a great perfomer, but his matches are only recognized because he has a handful of signature moves or "tEh F!\/3 M0v3$ 0f D00m!!"
thats why im a CM Punk fan. hes barly got any charisma, but is great in the ring. but still, isnt deserving enough of the big titles yet.
it just goes to show that fans really dont know what they want. the same people who hate cena's wrestling, find edge to be the best. when he sucks in the ring too! and you all want the same thing "good matches" but still, it all goes back to the bandwagon of wrestlers who are chaismatic. people need to decide what they like more: good matches or good mic skills.
Evidently you think charisma means just being good on the mic, which it doesn't. It relates to mic skills, facial expressions, connecting with the crowd among other things and personally I think it is a more important trait than "techinical wrestling" because someone who is more charasmatic is going to be more marketable than a techinical wrestler.
Another thing is I didn't really get any of that argument, in it you called Cena both a great in ring performer then when comparing him to Edge said he sucks. Then you yourself seem to be confused with what you like better being technical or charasmatic. I'm a big Cena fan, but he is just good in the ring, not great and at this stage of their respective careers, eg Kennedy at his 2 year mark and Cena at his 2 year mark are neither that much better or worse than each other (I'd actually give the nod to Kennedy in the ring) and over time if it is nice to Kennedy he could very well show that he could be a better rounded performer than Cena, he definantely has the potential to do so.
People like Edge, MVP & Kennedy all whom you criticised in that are well rounded athletes, who sure may not be the best in any category are definantely at least solid in each and Edge, who imo is the best superstar in the WWE is the best heel in wrestling today, puts on MOTYC every year making him good in the ring and is probably the best mic worker in the WWE today.
Anyway onto Kennedy, I really don't believe any of this but it's stupid if it is, I mean Orton's feud with Michaels was pretty damn bland and Kennedy is a better heel, better mic worker, however I'll admit isn't as good as him in the ring, just shows how much favoritism there is.
Why is this a sink or swim thing for Kennedy. Thats crap. It took Austin 10 years before he was in the main event, Kennedy just started a year or so ago, why does he have to have IT right now? Why cant he just have feuds, get expierience, and such. Why does it have to be forced to be RIGHT NOW kinda thing?
GO TO SMACKDOWN!!!! He they put him back on SD he will be fine and can be a top guy. Its hard to be a top guy on Raw because Triple H buries so many people. Himself, HBK, Orton, Cena, and now J. Hardy are the top dogs and nobody will pass them up. Booker T was the same way. Champ on smackdown, jobber on Raw. More people can flourish on Smackdown then on Raw.
well, ever since coming to Raw it seems Kennedy has definitely lost his momentum. Over on Smackdown he was fighting on the main event and seemed to be moving along nicely. Once on Raw he seemed to get lost in the shuffle with all the other characters.
I think maybe they should have left him on Smackdown longer until he was more established. I feel the same thing would happen with MVP if they were to move him to Raw.
Kennedy I personally don't like him, but he does have talent and I don't think they should throw him down to mid-card level. I mean the WWE has guys like Big Daddy Tits and Mark Henry fueding with Punk, and they are lame and boring as all hell. At least Kennedy sparks interes in some people. I think they should give him a little more time, or have him pretend to het hurt that way he can go away for lyk 3 months or so, train and come back fresh with new moves.