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Post by Suckasays on Dec 21, 2007 8:54:24 GMT -5
Kennedy needs to be more loose with things. He seems like the kind of guy who would run around brown nosing everyone, asking for advice etc, when he seemed to be doing just fine beforehand. Since he came back from his suspension, he has seemed like a complete robot. Like he's reading from a cue card or something.
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Post by guygardner on Dec 21, 2007 9:45:28 GMT -5
You're a Jeff Hardy fan, so therefore your opinion is invalid.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Dec 21, 2007 9:50:57 GMT -5
Things went downhill when he went to RAW. SD was great for him and he should have stayed there due to the 'drowning pool' environment that Raw is.
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Post by addam on Dec 21, 2007 10:23:54 GMT -5
well, i hope he either steps is up or gets pushed down, because as it's been since he's been back kennedy is god awful boring in the ring.
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Post by Warheart on Dec 21, 2007 10:56:48 GMT -5
i always liked Kennedy's character but not his i ring ability. But i am sure he can improve later on. he's got it, he just needs to use it right.
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Post by James St. James on Dec 21, 2007 11:31:10 GMT -5
I agree about moving Kennedy to Smackdown, mainly because I don't watch Smackdown.
Oh, and MVP looks like Jonathan Coachman smoked some rock and dressed up like a super hero for Halloween, I cannot take him seriously.
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Post by chumped on Dec 21, 2007 11:36:42 GMT -5
Hopefully now people realize just how mediocre he is.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Dec 21, 2007 11:42:54 GMT -5
maybe this will shut the fans up who think that if you have good enough charisma you can hang with the big boys. charisma doesnt win or lose matches, and has little to no value during the match. MVP, Kennedy, and others all have a bandwagon of marks because their good on the mic but are still rookies who have a long way to go before their deserving enough of their hype. Edge falls into this category too. sure hes definitly not a rookie, but ever since he got his charismatic Rated R gimmick, hes suddenly the greatest wrestler in WWE. but still, for some reason, Cena is hated. Hes been charismatic since he debuted against kurt angle. And im positive that most people here, who hate cena, were fans of him when he was in those short tights.(im also sure, people hate cena because of his attire. jeans are untraditional.) He backs himself up in the ring as a great perfomer, but his matches are only recognized because he has a handful of signature moves or "tEh F!\/3 M0v3$ 0f D00m!!" thats why im a CM Punk fan. hes barly got any charisma, but is great in the ring. but still, isnt deserving enough of the big titles yet. it just goes to show that fans really dont know what they want. the same people who hate cena's wrestling, find edge to be the best. when he sucks in the ring too! and you all want the same thing "good matches" but still, it all goes back to the bandwagon of wrestlers who are chaismatic. people need to decide what they like more: good matches or good mic skills. Evidently you think charisma means just being good on the mic, which it doesn't. It relates to mic skills, facial expressions, connecting with the crowd among other things and personally I think it is a more important trait than "techinical wrestling" because someone who is more charasmatic is going to be more marketable than a techinical wrestler. Another thing is I didn't really get any of that argument, in it you called Cena both a great in ring performer then when comparing him to Edge said he sucks. Then you yourself seem to be confused with what you like better being technical or charasmatic. I'm a big Cena fan, but he is just good in the ring, not great and at this stage of their respective careers, eg Kennedy at his 2 year mark and Cena at his 2 year mark are neither that much better or worse than each other (I'd actually give the nod to Kennedy in the ring) and over time if it is nice to Kennedy he could very well show that he could be a better rounded performer than Cena, he definantely has the potential to do so. People like Edge, MVP & Kennedy all whom you criticised in that are well rounded athletes, who sure may not be the best in any category are definantely at least solid in each and Edge, who imo is the best superstar in the WWE is the best heel in wrestling today, puts on MOTYC every year making him good in the ring and is probably the best mic worker in the WWE today. Anyway onto Kennedy, I really don't believe any of this but it's stupid if it is, I mean Orton's feud with Michaels was pretty damn bland and Kennedy is a better heel, better mic worker, however I'll admit isn't as good as him in the ring, just shows how much favoritism there is. yeah i didnt mean to say cena sucks. the "too!" reffered to someone else but i dont remember. and i was thinking while typing it that its a mixed up topic and hard to put it into words with making complete sense. MVP is getting to be a good wrestler, kennedy no, and edge is alrite. and edge won his titles the cheap way he did because theres no way he can be taken serious to beat guys like Taker and batista. i doubt its entirly cuz of his heel role (just pointing that out.) i myself prefer charisma, in ever sense of the word, as you said, expressions, mic skills, and connecting with the crowd other than wrestling, but i sure as hell dont expect them to ride to the top off of it. i just enjoy the promos more than matches half the time. Edge = best superstar? no way in hell Edge = best heel? its possible but hes not it officially and idk how you think Orton/HBK was worse then Kennedy/HBK Orton and HBK's feud have actual reasons of feuding, and makes more sense storywise. and they both put on good matches. then out of the blue kennedy fights HBK for no reason.
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Post by s☠e on Dec 21, 2007 12:04:08 GMT -5
I don't care much for Kennedy anymore. SD! he was good. Still not great. But now he is so...meh.
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Post by brethitmanhart on Dec 21, 2007 12:09:55 GMT -5
I can't say I have ever been Kennedy's biggest fan but the WWE needs him in the mainevent. The guy could become a Mega heel, he has the charisma.
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Post by The Best on Dec 21, 2007 12:29:28 GMT -5
I used to really like him, but lately it just seems like hes trying too hard in the ring. Looks like hes going too fast, and it causes alot of moves to look ugly. If he just calmed down and let it flow I think his matches would look alot smoother.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Dec 21, 2007 12:56:16 GMT -5
To me the guy is an idiot. He is not listening to Steve Austin who is arguably the best superstar of the past 15 years. And he is worried and is actually looking like crapagainst Shawn Michaels who is arguably the best all around performer of all time.WOW. What an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2007 13:06:22 GMT -5
well, ever since coming to Raw it seems Kennedy has definitely lost his momentum. Over on Smackdown he was fighting on the main event and seemed to be moving along nicely. Once on Raw he seemed to get lost in the shuffle with all the other characters. I think maybe they should have left him on Smackdown longer until he was more established. I feel the same thing would happen with MVP if they were to move him to Raw. Exactly, I say move Kennedy back to Smack Down! before he loses all credibility. Kennedy has looked like nothing while he is on Raw. Jobbing out to Shawn, HHH, Cena. Send him back over to Smack Down! and you have another heel in the Main Event
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Post by foshizzle on Dec 21, 2007 13:11:36 GMT -5
You're a Jeff Hardy fan, so therefore your opinion is invalid. Your a Bret Hart fan, so therefore your screwed. jk Anyways, seriously, get a life. It is a forum. WE CAN LIKE WHO WE LIKE FOR WHY WE LIKE THEM! Good god man get a fricken life!
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Post by fallenhero on Dec 21, 2007 13:31:18 GMT -5
He's just.. there to me. Nothing special. Didn't you have a Kennedy sig not too long ago?
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Dec 21, 2007 14:32:24 GMT -5
Kennedy has been burried severely since he was moved to RAW. How is he supposed to shine when the WWE has completely killed him and all the momentum he had on SmackDown? He never cuts any promos, he always loses and they don't even let him do his own intro anymore. How is he supposed to succeed when they've ruined his character?
Kennedy should have Orton's spot on RAW as the top heel because he's way more entertaining and deserves it more. He got shafted because of the steroid bust, while Orton got off without being penalized. That's really what ruined everything for Kennedy - the fact that the WWE chose to punish him, but not Orton.
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Post by Ashley Shaffer BMW on Dec 21, 2007 14:33:11 GMT -5
He's still young guy, Kennedy is my favorite wrestler in the wwe he has an a**holeness to him thats so perfect, give him some time and he'll shine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2007 15:05:35 GMT -5
sigh..... *Insert Comment about sig* *Insert return comment about sig* *Insert fight* *Insert Dreaded 75% Warning bar* Dont worry, Bart Gunn > Jeff Hardy
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Post by chumped on Dec 21, 2007 15:08:38 GMT -5
Kennedy has been burried severely since he was moved to RAW. How is he supposed to shine when the WWE has completely killed him and all the momentum he had on SmackDown? He never cuts any promos, he always loses and they don't even let him do his own intro anymore. How is he supposed to succeed when they've ruined his character? Kennedy should have Orton's spot on RAW as the top heel because he's way more entertaining and deserves it more. He got shafted because of the steroid bust, while Orton got off without being penalized. That's really what ruined everything for Kennedy - the fact that the WWE chose to punish him, but not Orton. I don't want to start a fight/argument, but what exactly has Kennedy done...ever..to deserve a main event spot?
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Post by Iron Man on Dec 21, 2007 15:24:21 GMT -5
Kennedy has been burried severely since he was moved to RAW. How is he supposed to shine when the WWE has completely killed him and all the momentum he had on SmackDown? He never cuts any promos, he always loses and they don't even let him do his own intro anymore. How is he supposed to succeed when they've ruined his character? Kennedy should have Orton's spot on RAW as the top heel because he's way more entertaining and deserves it more. He got shafted because of the steroid bust, while Orton got off without being penalized. That's really what ruined everything for Kennedy - the fact that the WWE chose to punish him, but not Orton. I don't want to start a fight/argument, but what exactly has Kennedy done...ever..to deserve a main event spot? You could say the same thing about Orton... Atleast Kennedy wants to really improve by taking advice from people unlike all the other new guys who think they are the best ever. Orton is a prick backstage and a friend of Triple H.
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