zeitgeist: factual disproval of christ

[Doomrider]

amxfiles said:

I don't trust anyone who believes so strongly in something. Especially someone who posts a 2 hour movie on the internet for free.....

I'm gonna disagree with you on that one. If someone posted a 2 hour movie about how awesome pizza or chicken fries is...I'd be inclined to watch.

[K5]

gar said:

This vid has been posted before. It's a bunch of nutjobs hyping conspiracy theories that have more holes in them than swiss cheese.

I don't think anyone can prove or disprove the existence of God and I'm always interested when someone thinks they're smart enough to try. Not gonna watch this though.

ok, for the last time THEY ARE NOT DISPROVING GOD. there is a huge difference in questioning the existance of Jesus Christ compared to God. that is indisputable.

and if it is full of such 'holes' as you speak of, instead of speaking blindly and full of bullshit, how about you actually watch the ing 20 minutes the film is and tell me where these holes are.

i'm not even religious, or athiests, but the ing ridiculousness of people's answers suprises me...i thought this could be a decent topic.

[xtremefate]

I've seen this before. It's pretty good. Brings out a lot of good points.

[Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades]

People with beliefs points on either side of an argument will always find good points, religious and non. Dont worry folks, no bible thumping today, not from me anyways. But i do belive in jesus and god and accept him as my savior.

[Death Bear]

As someone who was already an Atheist before seeing Zeitgeist, the movie reaffirmed my distaste for religion. I found it very interesting, though, how they used nothing but facts to support their arguments, and I often cite references to that movie when debating politics or religion.

I think everyone should see it, it's a really enlightening movie.

[Rant Casey]

I watched it, and while it does have some holes any argument when it comes to these subjects will. I think people should watch it, but using this are a base for what they believe in is probably not a good idea.

If nothing else it entertained me, it sorta felt like a Metal Gear Solid game near the end.

[megawarlord]

" just wanted to hear what everyone has to say about it, religious, athiests or people who don't know or don't care what to think."

- Disgusting horible scenes of death and even an actual murder.Should not be watched by children

- Comedian starts it off a very unreliable sorce and sets the mood with a big laugh.

- Many true believers in Christ do not have a religion or put there faith in religion or church.(You can worship God in a jail cell 23 hour lockdown alone!) but Christ alone through the Bible

- Not all churches ask for money I know many false pastors on tv do thats all they do ( benny hinn, Oral roberts) the list goes on.These so called pastors sold there soul ( in a way ) to Satan for money.

-Why not post all the laws of other false religions?? Because you might find something like kill your enemy as in islam.We as true Christians believe love your enemy do good to those who hate you...you tell me which one sounds more logical ? And moraly based?

- This video is in a way saying that the Law from the Commandments have 0 value. Tell me whats wrong with thou shalt not steal ? or thou shalt not kill ? you decide follow them or not.Seems like these people would rather not and do what ever when ever they please with no remorce or shame or guilt.

- Easter and Christmas ..... I dont celebrate either and it is not biblical in any way . it's origins is from false religions.Nimrod was born on dec 25 not Christ. So this video is full of mis information. The majority of "christians " that do celebrate these cult holidays are mis led and not educated.

- Overall this video and its information has been rehashed over and over. many false religions before Christ came are very similar to the Bible i know.I am not a historian.If there is no God or Hell or Heaven then why spend soo many hours of time to try to discredit it?? Just leave us alone I guess .Jesus is the son of God came in the flesh to this earth.If you dont want to believe thats your free choice...... let me ask you a question what if there is Hell ??

[K5]

megawarlord said:

let me ask you a question what if there is Hell ??

well, if you're asking me that question, i guess my answer would be that that's too bad for those who chose not to believe?

[amxfiles]

thedoomrider said:

amxfiles said:

I don't trust anyone who believes so strongly in something. Especially someone who posts a 2 hour movie on the internet for free.....

I'm gonna disagree with you on that one. If someone posted a 2 hour movie about how awesome pizza or chicken fries is...I'd be inclined to watch.

I don't know. As much as I would agree on the with him on the Pizza Pie Platform, his passionate views would more than likely soil the good name of hot wings or other various manly foods to get his point across.

[Eyce]

thehurricane2 said:

suckasays said:

There's only one thing that annoys me more than religious fanatics...

anti religion fanatics.

Amen.

Greatest case of mildly humourous irony of 07.

[megawarlord]

k5 said:

megawarlord said:

let me ask you a question what if there is Hell ??

well, if you're asking me that question, i guess my answer would be that that's too bad for those who chose not to believe?

exactly , its logic .Then why take a chance ? It takes more faith to be an Atheist than to be a Christian.What men fear is not that death is annihilation but that it is not.Hell is a reality seen to late.

found on a tombstone

Pause, Stranger, when you pass me by.
As you are now, So once was I
As I am now, so you will be
So prepare for death and follow me.

[Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades]

megawarlord said:

k5 said:

well, if you're asking me that question, i guess my answer would be that that's too bad for those who chose not to believe?

exactly , its logic .Then why take a chance ? It takes more faith to be an Atheist than to be a Christian.What men fear is not that death is annihilation but that it is not.Hell is a reality seen to late.

found on a tombstone

Pause, Stranger, when you pass me by.
As you are now, So once was I
As I am now, so you will be
So prepare for death and follow me.

I love you how you think man, no honestly dude if you're gonna argue religion the best way is to come from the bible and no where else and its good to see someone do that for a change. It cool to see someone here sees logic in religion.

[Creative Has Nothing for Me]

the belief can't be proven one way or the other. That is why FAITH is the key. I personally feel that I know I have a savior. I've been through too much and have seen too much to think otherwise. I also refuse to believe that when I die, my corpse will simply rot in the ground and that is it. I believe in the afterlife, I believe in Heaven, Hell, God and Satan. That's one thing that so many people don't beleive in....the thought of "Satan" isn't simply the embodiment of evil, but rather an actual figure. A fallen angel. With so many terrible things happening in this world, I do wonder if we really our towards the end times....I guess we'll find out soon. 2012 isn't too far off.

[megawarlord]

thank you brothers we must never stop trying to lead our other brothers and sisters in this world to Christ,.Just how we were found.I am not trying to force a religion on any one but a way of life worth living for the creator of the universe who created us all . I hate no one be it Muslim or Jew.Athiest or Satanist I know of many athiest and satanist who have come to follow the teachings from the Bible

[slammed86]

blackhartfunk said:

everyone can believe what they want.

I believe there is a god but hes not my savior.

Im in my own hell here, if i survive this thats when i go to my heaven

Damn bro very well said. That's my new quote. lol I don't think I could have said it any better myself.

[Hulkamaniac]

Watched bits and pieces of it a while back. Did a quick Wikipedia search. The film damages it's credibility by talking about 9/11 conspiracy theories that have been thoroughly debunked by Popular Mechanics and a number of other places. It also talks about how the world is controlled by a conspiracy of international bankers. Ok. Whatever.

The arguments that Jesus was not a historical person are as old as the 1800's (according to Wikipedia) and there are numerous sources that state a person named Jesus did in fact exist and founded a religious sect. That much is historically verifiable. Whether he was really God or not is up to your own interpretation and faith.

[Creative Has Nothing for Me]

gar said:

Watched bits and pieces of it a while back. Did a quick Wikipedia search. The film damages it's credibility by talking about 9/11 conspiracy theories that have been thoroughly debunked by Popular Mechanics and a number of other places. It also talks about how the world is controlled by a conspiracy of international bankers. Ok. Whatever.

The arguments that Jesus was not a historical person are as old as the 1800's (according to Wikipedia) and there are numerous sources that state a person named Jesus did in fact exist and founded a religious sect. That much is historically verifiable. Whether he was really God or not is up to your own interpretation and faith.

what he said. What I'm wondering....is when the tribulation does begin...let's assume it takes place this lifetime....how will people be able to possibly ignore what's really going on with so much warning beforehand???

[pagels8]

"God", "Jesus" and the bible are just another tool/religion attemping to control people by preaching about irrelavance.

Trust me, I go to a catholic school full of retards i know what im talking about.

[Creative Has Nothing for Me]

pagels8 said:

"God", "Jesus" and the bible are just another tool/religion attemping to control people by preaching about irrelavance.

Trust me, I go to a catholic school full of retards i know what im talking about.

well damn. call me convinced.

[kanekilledvince]

megawarlord said:

let me ask you a question, what if there is Hell ??

OK, I'm going to reply to that in a logical way.


I am Atheist.

I don't believe in God because my life has been crapand therefore i believe that if such a character as "God" existed then he would not allow that to happen.

I am a nice guy, I will go out of my way to help or please someone else. I do nice things and i have never in my life hurt anyone for no reason, or made anyone feel bad etc.


Surely if "God" existed, I'd be well looked after?

Apparently not.


However, Lets just say their is a god, and there is a devil, but I spend my life ignorant to both.


When I die.. why should i go to hell?

I've been a nice man throughout my life. I have never worshipped the devil or made a preference to hell over heaven. Therefore, If Heaven exists in the sense that we are told, I'm sure I'll be on my way there.

If "God" behaves as we are told, then he would surely forgive my ignorance as i have never attempted to slay his name in any way. I have never said to anyone "How can you believe in god. God is a rapist, murderous bastard." I have never once gave a dislike to anyone who believes in any religion. I don't care what other people believe. Each to their own.


So tell me, If God exists.. does he see fit to slaughter people, or let them spend an 'eternity in hell' purely because they are ignorant to his workings?


If God exists, Im sure he would make us all believe in him by performing actions within our lives to strengthen, or create, a belief in him.

So far, he has not done that to, or for, me.


Surely you see my point?