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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Sept 28, 2024 22:31:31 GMT -5
Lol I received an Elite 110 Austin Theory today with two right arms, two right boots, and paint all over his face. Made in Vietnam lmao
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Post by nomorexclusives on Sept 29, 2024 6:17:43 GMT -5
Or maybe this is the actual reason we're already seeing massive QC issues. I don't want to be that person but there's entire threads on this forum about how QC has been a dumpster fire lately and if they've changed their production location/methods, that might be a reason why. The Vietnam figures seem to have started with Elite 111, Monday Night Wars 3, and Survivor Series. So all those QC issues were still in China because everything I got prior to those lines I mentioned are still stamped Made in China. Nicely done. Love it when people take time to figure things out. Hats off to you. Whatever the reason for the move to vietnam, probably for a good reason (for mattel). It does seem like the quality has dropped off. The latest mnw figures look like mattel figures from 2012. Not sure how that correlates to vietnam (yet., will scour the internet on that) but the move has made a dent in the end result. Edit: looks like hasbro did the same thing last year. The opening lines in the paragraph state similar issues mattel is most likely dealing with, new suppliers. www.opportimes.com/hasbro-moved-production-from-china-to-vietnam-india-and-mexico/Edit#2: just found this article. Very interesting read that explains a lot of what is going on in the industry. www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/toy-manufacturers-shift-china-is-no-childs-play-2024-01-15/Looks like manufacturing in india/vietnam will lead to lower toy prices in comparison to china (lower wages) but is also resulting in delays/stockpiling of merchandise waiting to be sent out in smaller ports with less efficiency to move product in bulk. In the longrun we should profit. China is losing the trade war. |
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Post by coldblooded on Sept 29, 2024 10:00:30 GMT -5
The Vietnam figures seem to have started with Elite 111, Monday Night Wars 3, and Survivor Series. So all those QC issues were still in China because everything I got prior to those lines I mentioned are still stamped Made in China. Nicely done. Love it when people take time to figure things out. Hats off to you. Whatever the reason for the move to vietnam, probably for a good reason (for mattel). It does seem like the quality has dropped off. The latest mnw figures look like mattel figures from 2012. Not sure how that correlates to vietnam (yet., will scour the internet on that) but the move has made a dent in the end result. Edit: looks like hasbro did the same thing last year. The opening lines in the paragraph state similar issues mattel is most likely dealing with, new suppliers. www.opportimes.com/hasbro-moved-production-from-china-to-vietnam-india-and-mexico/Edit#2: just found this article. Very interesting read that explains a lot of what is going on in the industry. www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/toy-manufacturers-shift-china-is-no-childs-play-2024-01-15/Looks like manufacturing in india/vietnam will lead to lower toy prices in comparison to china (lower wages) but is also resulting in delays/stockpiling of merchandise waiting to be sent out in smaller ports with less efficiency to move product in bulk. In the longrun we should profit. China is losing the trade war. The MMPR Ninjeti figures were pretty trashed when they came out. Then the anniversary figs came out pretty good. Not sure why there's growing pains in factory that just has buttons to push. But, lots of test runs should be done instead of releasing garbage. |
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Post by stargasm on Sept 29, 2024 18:43:55 GMT -5
Lol I received an Elite 110 Austin Theory today with two right arms, two right boots, and paint all over his face. Made in Vietnam lmao Pics? |
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Post by mrh on Sept 29, 2024 21:08:41 GMT -5
The Vietnam figures seem to have started with Elite 111, Monday Night Wars 3, and Survivor Series. So all those QC issues were still in China because everything I got prior to those lines I mentioned are still stamped Made in China. Nicely done. Love it when people take time to figure things out. Hats off to you. Whatever the reason for the move to vietnam, probably for a good reason (for mattel). It does seem like the quality has dropped off. The latest mnw figures look like mattel figures from 2012. Not sure how that correlates to vietnam (yet., will scour the internet on that) but the move has made a dent in the end result. Edit: looks like hasbro did the same thing last year. The opening lines in the paragraph state similar issues mattel is most likely dealing with, new suppliers. www.opportimes.com/hasbro-moved-production-from-china-to-vietnam-india-and-mexico/Edit#2: just found this article. Very interesting read that explains a lot of what is going on in the industry. www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/toy-manufacturers-shift-china-is-no-childs-play-2024-01-15/Looks like manufacturing in india/vietnam will lead to lower toy prices in comparison to china (lower wages) but is also resulting in delays/stockpiling of merchandise waiting to be sent out in smaller ports with less efficiency to move product in bulk. In the longrun we should profit. China is losing the trade war. These are fascinating reads. Thanks for taking the time to share. |
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Post by shanieomaniac on Sept 30, 2024 23:45:26 GMT -5
The Vietnam figures seem to have started with Elite 111, Monday Night Wars 3, and Survivor Series. So all those QC issues were still in China because everything I got prior to those lines I mentioned are still stamped Made in China. Nicely done. Love it when people take time to figure things out. Hats off to you. Whatever the reason for the move to vietnam, probably for a good reason (for mattel). It does seem like the quality has dropped off. The latest mnw figures look like mattel figures from 2012. Not sure how that correlates to vietnam (yet., will scour the internet on that) but the move has made a dent in the end result. Edit: looks like hasbro did the same thing last year. The opening lines in the paragraph state similar issues mattel is most likely dealing with, new suppliers. www.opportimes.com/hasbro-moved-production-from-china-to-vietnam-india-and-mexico/Edit#2: just found this article. Very interesting read that explains a lot of what is going on in the industry. www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/toy-manufacturers-shift-china-is-no-childs-play-2024-01-15/Looks like manufacturing in india/vietnam will lead to lower toy prices in comparison to china (lower wages) but is also resulting in delays/stockpiling of merchandise waiting to be sent out in smaller ports with less efficiency to move product in bulk. In the longrun we should profit. China is losing the trade war. Point 1: Not a single penny of that reduced production cost will see MSRP. Not ONE. That's not how this works. Just because products suddenly cost less to make doesn't mean companies will lower the price for consumers. At most it means they won't raise the current price to cover the increased production costs. Point 2: Those articles make me wonder if the Outsiders figures are made in Vietnam and that's why they're delayed by a month. Has anyone heard if they are or not? Would be interesting if that's why the massive delay has occurred. Would be awful if the figures were not only delayed by weeks, but the final product has massive QC issues. |
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Post by kgchampion on Oct 3, 2024 21:01:00 GMT -5
I misspoke earlier. I got a bunch of figures from 110 today. They’re all made in Vietnam. I think Elite 109 is the final China wave.
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Post by kgchampion on Oct 3, 2024 21:19:02 GMT -5
Lol I received an Elite 110 Austin Theory today with two right arms, two right boots, and paint all over his face. Made in Vietnam lmao I got one today and his left leg says A-T WN. Pretty sure there’s an O missing. |
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 3, 2024 21:20:45 GMT -5
I've seen factory errors before with different figs in different cards/boxes, but I ain't never seen that plus a 2 toned torso? (found on Fbook)  |
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Oct 4, 2024 0:17:25 GMT -5
Lol I received an Elite 110 Austin Theory today with two right arms, two right boots, and paint all over his face. Made in Vietnam lmao I got one today and his left leg says A-T WN. Pretty sure there’s an O missing. Yep lol. My replacement is arriving tomorrow so I'm curious to see if this one has any issues |
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Post by kgchampion on Oct 4, 2024 0:26:51 GMT -5
I've seen factory errors before with different figs in different cards/boxes, but I ain't never seen that plus a 2 toned torso? (found on Fbook) My JD McDonough has a tanner right elbow. |
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Post by jjh1292 on Oct 4, 2024 1:05:49 GMT -5
Opened my second DM Cm Punk and the QC is the worst I’ve seen on any figure in any line ever. Torso is loose as can be, the seams on both sides leading up to the neck are split, it looks like they put the y shirt on him too quick because his chest tattoo is slightly smeared at the bottom, and there’s very light red paint smear on his trunks which doesn’t even make sense. Bad sign you guys.
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Post by personagamer on Oct 4, 2024 3:03:12 GMT -5
I've seen factory errors before with different figs in different cards/boxes, but I ain't never seen that plus a 2 toned torso? (found on Fbook) My JD McDonough has a tanner right elbow. didn't know Jazzwares bought out Mattel |
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Post by bigvis497 on Oct 5, 2024 23:43:05 GMT -5
Monday Night War Greatest Hits is rough. Vietnam.
Vincent has a lot of stress marks on his skin tone. The ABS plastic torso part. I've messed up while customizing and if you bend ABS, it turns lighter. Vincent has light brown marks all over the seams. That shouldn't happen in the factory.
Vincent's arms came with the left hand plugged into the right arm and vice versa. Not a big deal since they're removable, but speaks to the wider issue.
Eddie and Shawn have ridiculous giraffe necks. And since they both have long hair, it looks awkward as hell. Theres a huge gap between the hair and the shoulders. The socket for the ball joint inside the head is way too low.
Eddie also has a very loose ab crunch and black smears on his legs.
Hunter's boots can barely move. The jeans mold gets in the way. It sits inside the boot instead of outside. Never seen this before.
Shawn's left arm can't stay up, it just falls. Very loose.
And on every figure, the plastic feels cheaper. It's hard to explain, but it just feels lighter for some reason.
Hopefully this gets fixed soon. I had a similar experience with Super7 when they switched to Vietnam.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Oct 5, 2024 23:51:15 GMT -5
Id like to send Bill along the Ho Chi Minh trail to this factory so he can endure Vietnamese humidity and become even sweatier and drown in a pool of his own sweat if he doesnt hurry up and get the QC issues sorted on our figures.
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Post by Flair Forever on Oct 8, 2024 12:29:35 GMT -5
I'd love to know a lot more about "how the figures are made." Does anyone know of any info out there? Are there any "behind the scenes" videos or anything of how an Action Figure Factory actually works?
Questions that I have:
* How are they painted? A machine? by hand? how do they get the eyes painted?
* do they just make one specific figure at once, like an assembly line? Or are there multiple assembly lines cranking out various characters simultaneously? Like, is there a "John Cena" Assembly line and a "Rey Mysterio" Assembly line?
* How do the employees know how to put them together correctly? Is there a diagram?
* Are the parts actually MADE at the same factory where the figures are assembled? Or are the plastic parts molded/painted at one factory, then shipped to a different factory where the people just put the figures together?
* Is the packaging printed at the factory, or is it printed elsewhere and just sent there?
* Honestly - how do they make the plastic "bubble" that holds the figure, the accessories, the belts, the soft goods? What is that process like?
* What about Soft Goods? are they also made at the same factory? So are there people sitting at sewing machines or cutting fabric for these?
I imagine manufacturing an action figure is a lot more complicated than we typically think about.... I'd love to learn more about how it's done. Any resources out there?
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Post by Flair Forever on Oct 8, 2024 12:35:17 GMT -5
I've seen factory errors before with different figs in different cards/boxes, but I ain't never seen that plus a 2 toned torso? (found on Fbook) Did Boss Man tick somebody off in Vietnam? I found one with a Hennig inside.  |
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Post by LA Times on Oct 8, 2024 13:09:01 GMT -5
I'd love to know a lot more about "how the figures are made." Does anyone know of any info out there? Are there any "behind the scenes" videos or anything of how an Action Figure Factory actually works? Questions that I have: * How are they painted? A machine? by hand? how do they get the eyes painted? * do they just make one specific figure at once, like an assembly line? Or are there multiple assembly lines cranking out various characters simultaneously? Like, is there a "John Cena" Assembly line and a "Rey Mysterio" Assembly line? * How do the employees know how to put them together correctly? Is there a diagram? * Are the parts actually MADE at the same factory where the figures are assembled? Or are the plastic parts molded/painted at one factory, then shipped to a different factory where the people just put the figures together? * Is the packaging printed at the factory, or is it printed elsewhere and just sent there? * Honestly - how do they make the plastic "bubble" that holds the figure, the accessories, the belts, the soft goods? What is that process like? * What about Soft Goods? are they also made at the same factory? So are there people sitting at sewing machines or cutting fabric for these? I imagine manufacturing an action figure is a lot more complicated than we typically think about.... I'd love to learn more about how it's done. Any resources out there? The Spectre Creative channel on YouTube will give you some idea but doesn't specifically answer your questions. You would have to work at the toy company or factory itself for that. The factory workers do have to be educated on how to paint and package the product for every series and if Vietnam has almost no experience making wrestling figures, that's why you see those packaging errors. |
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Oct 8, 2024 13:47:55 GMT -5
My E111 Sandman has an extremely loose right ankle. Made in Vietnam as well it looks like.
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Post by Flair Forever on Oct 8, 2024 14:48:30 GMT -5
I'm imagining that the Vietnam factory just has one, single goofy Vietnamese employee who keeps..... screwing.... up.   |
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