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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 27, 2024 11:01:41 GMT -5
Mattel knows the Steiners are probably the last major signing they’re gonna get. Maybe if Jarrett comes back but even he won’t be bigger or more toyetic (other than that canceled Double J UE). So they’re probably pacing themselves, making sure they’re done right, spacing out the releases so they oversaturate em and each release have their time to shine, and most importantly make em UE so they get the most of your money.
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Post by theman on Jul 27, 2024 11:04:01 GMT -5
Mattel knows the Steiners are probably the last major signing they’re gonna get. Maybe if Jarrett comes back but even he won’t be bigger or more toyetic (other than that canceled Double J UE). So they’re probably pacing themselves, making sure they’re done right, spacing out the releases so they oversaturate em and each release have their time to shine, and most importantly make em UE so they get the most of your money. So you think the line only has a few years left??? |
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Post by chaz on Jul 27, 2024 11:17:50 GMT -5
The Steiners have been signed for over two years now and they each have two figures each, it’s fairly laughable given, a.) how easily the Steiners can fall out with WWE and thus not become available, b.) how quickly they can seemingly churn out other guys like Hogan. Tell me why I need a THIRD version of Bad Blood 97 Shawn Michaels for the sake of some extra hands and knee pads?
Mattel would rather focus on rereleasing every single figure already in existence, gutting the secondary market and existing collections built-up over 15 years, and spending tooling to stop customising figures.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 27, 2024 11:19:22 GMT -5
Mattel knows the Steiners are probably the last major signing they’re gonna get. Maybe if Jarrett comes back but even he won’t be bigger or more toyetic (other than that canceled Double J UE). So they’re probably pacing themselves, making sure they’re done right, spacing out the releases so they oversaturate em and each release have their time to shine, and most importantly make em UE so they get the most of your money. So you think the line only has a few years left??? I don’t think there’s a name that they haven’t already made that they can sign that’s bigger than the Steiners. Nothing from this point forward will create as much buzz and excitement. |
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Post by chaz on Jul 27, 2024 11:25:27 GMT -5
Mattel knows the Steiners are probably the last major signing they’re gonna get. Maybe if Jarrett comes back but even he won’t be bigger or more toyetic (other than that canceled Double J UE). So they’re probably pacing themselves, making sure they’re done right, spacing out the releases so they oversaturate em and each release have their time to shine, and most importantly make em UE so they get the most of your money. I don’t think this is exactly true - losing the rights to Jarrett, Sting, Savage almost resets their status as “major signings”. Bringing any of those back into the fold would be a major signing as there are so many looks to still tap into. There’s always those that have only one release - Martel, Bundy, Akeem, Demolition - that would be considered major too. It’s laziness from Mattel - again, as said in my previous post, their focus is clearly monopolising the entire market by focusing on no more secondary market (rereleases galore) and no more customisation (e.g. torso redesigns on UEs). |
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Post by theman on Jul 27, 2024 11:26:43 GMT -5
So you think the line only has a few years left??? I don’t think there’s a name that they haven’t already made that they can sign that’s bigger than the Steiners. Nothing from this point forward will create as much buzz and excitement. I'm sorry but I don't agree with that. Ultimates of The Road Warriors and Sting would be huge, bigger than The Steiners. No reason we haven't seen Big Poppa Pump yet. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 27, 2024 11:33:33 GMT -5
I don’t think there’s a name that they haven’t already made that they can sign that’s bigger than the Steiners. Nothing from this point forward will create as much buzz and excitement. I'm sorry but I don't agree with that. Ultimates of The Road Warriors and Sting would be huge, bigger than The Steiners. No reason we haven't seen Big Poppa Pump yet. Theyve done Sting and LOD. As I said, other than Jarrett, there’s not one name they haven’t already done that’s gonna be a bigger name. And I don’t even think Jarrett outside of his Double J attire is that toyetic. |
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 27, 2024 11:50:12 GMT -5
Sting re-signing would be massive. The new technology along with Ultimates now being a thing.. nothing would make me happier in the figure world at the moment.
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 27, 2024 11:52:56 GMT -5
I don’t think this is exactly true - losing the rights to Jarrett, Sting, Savage almost resets their status as “major signings”. Bringing any of those back into the fold would be a major signing as there are so many looks to still tap into. There’s always those that have only one release - Martel, Bundy, Akeem, Demolition - that would be considered major too. It’s laziness from Mattel - again, as said in my previous post, their focus is clearly monopolising the entire market by focusing on no more secondary market (rereleases galore) and no more customisation (e.g. torso redesigns on UEs). Spot on! |
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jul 27, 2024 12:27:16 GMT -5
I don’t think this is exactly true - losing the rights to Jarrett, Sting, Savage almost resets their status as “major signings”. Bringing any of those back into the fold would be a major signing as there are so many looks to still tap into. There’s always those that have only one release - Martel, Bundy, Akeem, Demolition - that would be considered major too. It’s laziness from Mattel - again, as said in my previous post, their focus is clearly monopolising the entire market by focusing on no more secondary market (rereleases galore) and no more customisation (e.g. torso redesigns on UEs). Spot on! Agree… I would rather get new attires rather than rereleases of stuff we’ve already got. This is coming from someone who doesn’t buy more than 1 of each figure and has reduced his collecting to a couple of purchases a year. |
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Post by Apocalypse on Jul 27, 2024 12:48:45 GMT -5
Its a shame that they are just turning those u.es into elites when theres a lot of people that just didnt have the money due to the covid years and inflation.
Or even the space for that whole set up.
I hope mattel at least lets b.p.p slide by on the u.e scale instead of turning him elite
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Post by jt on Jul 27, 2024 13:53:34 GMT -5
So you think the line only has a few years left??? I don’t think there’s a name that they haven’t already made that they can sign that’s bigger than the Steiners. Nothing from this point forward will create as much buzz and excitement. Not as big as the Steiners obviously, but I feel like there's some territory stars that could generate some hype. Bruiser Brody would probably be the biggest name, but they haven't done Stan Hansen, The Great Kabuki, Missing Link, Jim Landos, David or Fritz Von Erich, Kevin Sullivan, Buddy Rogers, The Midnight Express, The Rock n Roll Express etc etc. Even if you had to go with relatively modern names they haven't done Dynamite Kid, Raven, Sabu, Bull Nakano, Luna Vachon, etc etc. There are plenty of names they could still do, they're just kind of bound by who WWE will sign |
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Post by TheXtremisT on Jul 27, 2024 17:03:33 GMT -5
Just not enough meat on the bone to get excited about a Hak figure. I know he technically fits the theme of the line, but it's just The Sandman under a different name and they literally just dropped TWO versions of him. Funny how they sign certain names and pump out different looks immediately, but for others it's a much slower process. Considering the range of names available, it feels like a head scratcher. I had to Google what Hardcore Hak even looked like. And the answer is apparently "The Sandman wearing all black." Clearly he's there because it's a zero deco figure. The entire MNW set has been super low deco, even compared to other BAF lines. I know the run is probably smaller than multi-retailer BAF waves, but even compared to the Walmart Flashback line with a BAF, this feels like cutting some major corners. Apart from wave 3 and now waves 5 and 6 |
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Post by zen411 on Jul 27, 2024 17:26:36 GMT -5
I think big signings are a matter of perspective.
I would be more excited about Crush, Mr Fuji, One Man Gang, Haku, Hercules, Luna Vachon, Gangrel, and Taskmaster than Big Poppa Pump.
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Post by How Do Ya Figure? on Jul 28, 2024 18:14:47 GMT -5
I know I'm absolutely in the weird minority here. But I am way more excited for Golga than I ever would be for another Scott Steiner. So excited that I have no problem buying 4 figures I don't really care about to build him. And Ill buy Hak if I see him but Big Poppa Pump would be a pass for me.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 28, 2024 18:35:10 GMT -5
Outside the random mid card act, an international star, or the completely unlikely like Owen, I don’t think there are many stones left to turn. Owen and Liger might be the last possible major gets.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 28, 2024 19:30:27 GMT -5
Outside the random mid card act, an international star, or the completely unlikely like Owen, I don’t think there are many stones left to turn. Owen and Liger might be the last possible major gets. The list of true HEAVY hitters is slim. We all know we won't see a Mattel version of Owen or Benoit. It is all about those midcard names now. Guys like Crush/Ahmed Johnson/Dynamite Kid are the difference makers. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 28, 2024 19:39:12 GMT -5
Outside the random mid card act, an international star, or the completely unlikely like Owen, I don’t think there are many stones left to turn. Owen and Liger might be the last possible major gets. The list of true HEAVY hitters is slim. We all know we won't see a Mattel version of Owen or Benoit. It is all about those midcard names now. Guys like Crush/Ahmed Johnson/Dynamite Kid are the difference makers. I forgot Sabu and Taz. Those could be fairly big. But yeah it’s the midcard they can chip away at and while none of those will be mind blowing, they could all sell decently I’m sure. I’d be interested in how well a Sable would sell. She was a big star at her peak. |
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Post by azraelms on Jul 28, 2024 19:48:03 GMT -5
I don't blame Mattel too much because they can only work with who is signed by WWE. Like, if WWE is on a signing freeze, then they can only work with who they have. So Golga and Hardcore Hak are good choices, in my opinion. I have no doubt that we will see Big Poppa Pump in the line at some point - this is clearly going on longer than the 6 series announced, which is cool. The RA series lasted 6 series, so my hope is that this goes for 10 series. If we do get 10 total series, that would be excellent.
Honestly, I think they agreed to the line before they realized that they would be losing access to some of their wrestlers. In the last year or two they lost access to Goldberg and the Giant, along with the previous loss of Sting & Flair, that takes a lot of heat off from the WCW side of the line. So Mattel reaching into the bag to pull out Hardcore Hak or Golga makes sense.
I fully expect that we get Big Poppa Pump in the line as soon as wave 7 or 8.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 28, 2024 19:50:14 GMT -5
The list of true HEAVY hitters is slim. We all know we won't see a Mattel version of Owen or Benoit. It is all about those midcard names now. Guys like Crush/Ahmed Johnson/Dynamite Kid are the difference makers. I forgot Sabu and Taz. Those could be fairly big. But yeah it’s the midcard they can chip away at and while none of those will be mind blowing, they could all sell decently I’m sure. I’d be interested in how well a Sable would sell. She was a big star at her peak. I didn't mean to make it sound dismissive either. Those midcard names are the backbone to a lot of collections whether it be WWE/TMNT/MOTU/Star Wars/etc. On the wrestling side, there are still a TON of prominent midcarders that have yet to be made so I think this line has plenty of legs if they are willing to invest. |
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