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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Sept 6, 2024 13:12:43 GMT -5
switchbladeera I can't help but put most of the blame on the Punk/Elite situation. Compound that with the Bucks antics/character work... it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of many I have no issue with saying that while I was never a Bucks fan, I see them as a complete joke these days and I don't think I'm alone. Also much like with Jericho, whoever is in the feud/segment with the Bucks gets dragged down Kenny seems to be the only one to have ever had a level head about all that drama and it's a shame how it all worked out
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Post by CM Tusk on Sept 6, 2024 13:14:45 GMT -5
I admittedly only got into the company because Punk. Iβd sh** on the product here for the first two years because I hated most of what they put on. Childish behavior on my part. Since actually becoming a fan, I can say I love what AEW has become, even after Punk left. I want them to succeed.
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Post by switchbladeera on Sept 6, 2024 13:22:19 GMT -5
switchbladeera I can't help but put most of the blame on the Punk/Elite situation. Compound that with the Bucks antics/character work... it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of many I have no issue with saying that while I was never a Bucks fan, I see them as a complete joke these days and I don't think I'm alone. Also much like with Jericho, whoever is in the feud/segment with the Bucks gets dragged down Kenny seems to be the only one to have ever had a level head about all that drama and it's a shame how it all worked out I think that's pretty fair. Even before the Punk situation I think Cody leaving had a bigger negative effect than most want to come to terms with. They were both very significant blows to viewership
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Sept 6, 2024 13:43:02 GMT -5
@switchbaldeera for completely different reasons, too. Imo
I think Cody leaving and immediately becoming a top 2 or 3 guy in WWE did hurt to some degree but I think Cody's biggest impact was behind the scenes. Dude was not perfect but I think he did a whole lot of good
Punk I miss on TV. Him in AEW just felt so right
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Post by switchbladeera on Sept 7, 2024 11:09:34 GMT -5
I think the one thing that's going to be really interesting with this new tv deal is how they utilize the budget increase. They already pay top money for talent, in many cases people are getting more than they would in WWE (and yes, for some the reverse absolutely holds true too). Do they invest in more backstage roles, do they explore more internationally, modify the us travel schedule so they stop killing markets?((Hint hint lol)). Or do they just call it all profit and change nothing...
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 7, 2024 12:34:35 GMT -5
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Sept 8, 2024 8:27:36 GMT -5
I think the one thing that's going to be really interesting with this new tv deal is how they utilize the budget increase. They already pay top money for talent, in many cases people are getting more than they would in WWE (and yes, for some the reverse absolutely holds true too). Do they invest in more backstage roles, do they explore more internationally, modify the us travel schedule so they stop killing markets?((Hint hint lol)). Or do they just call it all profit and change nothing... Cut unnecessary talent, revamp the touring schedule to hopefully avoid current and future market burnout and ideally Tony puts some better creative people in place. Tony is a hell of a match maker but they've got to develop some stories that connect with a wider audience. Imo
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Post by hitmancmedge on Sept 8, 2024 9:27:28 GMT -5
A lot of attempted murder being committed on AEW Television π
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Post by rkmo: Just a Fact of Life on Sept 8, 2024 12:53:24 GMT -5
I hope that thar be sarcasm
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Sept 8, 2024 13:37:54 GMT -5
I think the one thing that's going to be really interesting with this new tv deal is how they utilize the budget increase. They already pay top money for talent, in many cases people are getting more than they would in WWE (and yes, for some the reverse absolutely holds true too). Do they invest in more backstage roles, do they explore more internationally, modify the us travel schedule so they stop killing markets?((Hint hint lol)). Or do they just call it all profit and change nothing... The TV deal will not change anything. Tony Khan has more money than WWE. Heβs been able to operate taking a financial loss 5 years in a row because his father has 13.3 billion dollars. The amount of money that the TV deal is worth is literally inconsequential. The new deal could be more, less, or the same as what they have nowβ¦.it literally doesnβt matter. What needs to change in AEW is up to Tony finally admitting what heβs doing isnβt working. There is nothing AEW cannot afford right now if Tony decided he wanted to make changes. He does not want to make changes.
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Post by switchbladeera on Sept 8, 2024 14:35:41 GMT -5
So what changes would you make? And not something general like "better stories". Tell me what that is then, what is a "better story?" Etc.
Watching from the start I've seen a ton of changes. Some I've liked, some I really haven't lol. Some I've really, really not liked (the camera cuts are starting to get bad imo)
Edit: I'm being π― serious here in that I'm genuinely asking, not trying to be a snarky jerk.
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Post by K5 on Sept 8, 2024 15:33:39 GMT -5
rewatched Omega/Ospreay from Forbidden Door
so happy we got this match even if Omega was hurting
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 8, 2024 15:45:53 GMT -5
So what changes would you make? And not something general like "better stories". Tell me what that is then, what is a "better story?" Etc. Watching from the start I've seen a ton of changes. Some I've liked, some I really haven't lol. Some I've really, really not liked (the camera cuts are starting to get bad imo) We just need multiple guys involved in any kind of storyline. AEW has had many great ones recently. I don't know what it'll take but I just hope that they can turn things around. Get better tickets sales. The ratings should get better as well but the networks seem to be fine with it anyways.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 8, 2024 18:03:00 GMT -5
Fun times
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 8, 2024 20:13:58 GMT -5
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Post by hitmancmedge on Sept 8, 2024 22:06:38 GMT -5
So what changes would you make? And not something general like "better stories". Tell me what that is then, what is a "better story?" Etc. Watching from the start I've seen a ton of changes. Some I've liked, some I really haven't lol. Some I've really, really not liked (the camera cuts are starting to get bad imo) Edit: I'm being π― serious here in that I'm genuinely asking, not trying to be a snarky jerk. Iβve said a few of these things before so forgive me if you have seen it before, but pick like 5 or6 guys that you know you want to get to main event level and stick with them. People get invested in guys they watch grow. Itβs great seeing Garcia get a push but if he goes back into lower midcard/midcard then the whole thing was for not and do it enough times and people wonβt care anymore (Nakamura). Go back to advertising big matches weeks out, stop announcing the majority of your show cards on social media a day or two before the shows, majority of people donβt check it. When Kenny Omega comes back stop it with tag teams, or six mans, or have 15 minute bangers with lower card guys. He is a main event talent, the audience feels that way, treat him as such. Long term storylines throughout the card. One of the great things they did in the beginning was you could easily see storylines 7-16 months out. It keeps people invested. You want to do a big Hangman/Darby feud? Great have small interactions months before. Have Britt Baker and Skye Blue keep interacting while Skye works her way up the card. Have Hook lose a big title match with a stip he canβt have a title match while βXβ is champion but have him win a gauntlet six months later. While the in ring stuff is great, itβs varieties of the same thing for the same fans. They have those 1k-2k in every city. You can still have your one to two showcase in ring matches on every show, but just plan your stuff out more. Have solid plans for your future. And Book ROH as your development. Give them their own bookers, their own sets of guys. People struggle buying any of the storylines or matches in ROH when their top talent lose in five mins on dynamite. Seperate some of that underneath talent will do wonders for how people see them.
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Post by rkmo: Just a Fact of Life on Sept 9, 2024 11:02:23 GMT -5
Something in the All Out thread sparked this idea of taking Danielson's bag video and setting it to melancholy Sarah McLachlan music.
Goes against BCC's grittiness and may be too New York, but still.
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Post by βππ£π ππ ππππ on Sept 9, 2024 11:24:56 GMT -5
Such a wide open book right now for this company. No clue what is coming next.
Between All In and All Out, AEW really has no big angles left to blow off but Mox Vs Danielson.
Very excited to see what is coming next.
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Post by J-MANN on Sept 9, 2024 12:07:03 GMT -5
What business does Mox have with Darby? Potentially a match where Darby puts his world title shot on the line?
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Post by βππ£π ππ ππππ on Sept 10, 2024 12:53:20 GMT -5
What business does Mox have with Darby? Potentially a match where Darby puts his world title shot on the line? I am sort of thinking... Mox Vs Danielson for the AEW title at WrestleDream, potentially Mox going over/Danielson retirement in Washington Mox Vs Darby feud for the title Darby finally takes it off Moxley
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