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Post by OTC Waxbender on Apr 4, 2023 20:16:31 GMT -5
Orton showing up would have made it better but overall the show sucked hard. As much as I love RK Bro,Randy couldn't even saved last night. I was waiting all night for Ortons music to save the day and nothing. I read that Riddle was in town and backstage so that wasn't much of a surprise for me not that it matters without Randy Bro anyways |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 4, 2023 20:21:16 GMT -5
Orton showing up would have made it better but overall the show sucked hard. As much as I love RK Bro,Randy couldn't even saved last night. Yhh there’s no way that night could have been saved lol but Orton returning would have been nice. That RAW was a big big letdown |
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Post by finnbalor1 on Apr 4, 2023 20:22:42 GMT -5
As much as I love RK Bro,Randy couldn't even saved last night. I was waiting all night for Ortons music to save the day and nothing. I read that Riddle was in town and backstage so that wasn't much of a surprise for me not that it matters without Randy Bro anyways Tbh,I'm a lot more excited over Riddle being back then if Randy was on his own but I'm greedy and wanted both lol |
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Apr 4, 2023 20:28:39 GMT -5
pretty soon there will be a bunch of wrestlers on twitter complaining about getting proper pay like the UFC talent
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 4, 2023 20:32:44 GMT -5
pretty soon there will be a bunch of wrestlers on twitter complaining about getting proper pay like the UFC talent That would suck |
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Post by finnbalor1 on Apr 4, 2023 20:36:17 GMT -5
pretty soon there will be a bunch of wrestlers on twitter complaining about getting proper pay like the UFC talent That would suck It would suck that people wants proper pay?🤔 |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 4, 2023 20:45:24 GMT -5
It would suck that people wants proper pay?🤔 Nah I mean it would suck if they get underpaid in the first place lol & it would suck if they gotta complain on Twitter for something that they deserve 🤷🏾♂️ |
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Post by finnbalor1 on Apr 4, 2023 20:51:17 GMT -5
It would suck that people wants proper pay?🤔 Nah I mean it would suck if they get underpaid in the first place lol & it would suck if they gotta complain on Twitter for something that they deserve 🤷🏾♂️ Oh, ok 👍 |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Apr 4, 2023 21:03:40 GMT -5
Also this is literally a rehash of Wrestlemania 28
John Cena was supposed to beat The Rock, however, unbeknownst to us the WWE wanted a rematch and therefore Cena did not go over like most were certain he was.
Cena comes out the next night and we’re thinking the feud isn’t over and guess who returns, Brock Lesnar and he destroys Cena.
This is the same EXACT thing. We all thought Cody would win but because WWE wants a rematch, he lost. But what’s the consolation prize? A beating from Lesnar the next night to set up a match between the two
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Post by tylerbreezee on Apr 4, 2023 21:06:23 GMT -5
pretty soon there will be a bunch of wrestlers on twitter complaining about getting proper pay like the UFC talent You don’t think WWE is fair pay? Lol even when they have to pay for their travel and hotels, most of them are still making WAY more than UFC fighters |
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Post by Sizzle on Apr 4, 2023 21:12:55 GMT -5
It is really annoying having Vince halt so much of the momentum that’s been built over the past year almost. Triple H has had a ton of flaws in his booking primarily with the womens division, but the consistency, quality, and focus is something you can see week to week with his booking and that was lost last night. Which is why I’ve been critical of people saying “Vince is back for the past few months” because as we saw last night you will know damn well when he’s back. The show hasn’t had such poor pacing and odd presentation since Triple H took the helm.
I have a feeling if Vince is taking over completely again this will probably be one of the worst examples of his influence, considering the pure shock of a truly poor episode of WWE TV after an extended period of consistently good TV and the importance of a show after the biggest PPV of the year. I don’t think every episode will be this bad, even if I do think it is not one of the worst of all time like people are saying. However, I feel for everyone involved. Fans, talent, everyone. Everyone benefits from consistency and with reports of people being upset with the quick changes it’s obvious.
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Post by Plastic Cowboy on Apr 4, 2023 21:14:18 GMT -5
Everyone needs to go to the Endevour Facebook and tell them you don’t want Vince . Hell let’s get #no Vince on creative trending since the e loves that crap so much .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 22:31:24 GMT -5
Was it that bad? I only caught the tail end either the Lesnar/Cody beat down.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Apr 4, 2023 22:59:41 GMT -5
pretty soon there will be a bunch of wrestlers on twitter complaining about getting proper pay like the UFC talent You don’t think WWE is fair pay? Lol even when they have to pay for their travel and hotels, most of them are still making WAY more than UFC fighters They are NOW, but it was more a jest towards the new Endeavor company being the owner since UFC and their contracted fighters are constantly going back and forth over money (rightfully so for most of them that are underpaid) |
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Apr 4, 2023 23:01:46 GMT -5
I think Heyman explained it best but even his genius is having trouble making up for Monday night RAW being in shambles.
On if WWE missed an opportunity by having Rhodes lose: “We’ll be hearing this all summer. ‘Oh, this is perfect. The stars are aligned. It has to happen now.’ We’ve been hearing this the whole time. Two years ago, last SummerSlam with Brock, the Royal Rumble with Kevin Owens, Montreal with Sami, Cardiff with Drew McIntyre, two SummerSlams ago with John Cena. ‘This is where John Cena gets number 17. Wouldn’t it be perfect if he beats Roman Reigns. This is it. John Cena becomes the most decorated champion of all time. Perfect. Everything is in line.’ Of course it’s in line for it. That’s how you make a challenger. If the challenger is, ‘I guess this is okay.’ Nobody is going to buy that. ‘IT HAS TO HAPPEN NOW!’ That’s the promotional business.”
it's just business
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Post by K5 on Apr 5, 2023 0:58:41 GMT -5
I think Heyman explained it best but even his genius is having trouble making up for Monday night RAW being in shambles. On if WWE missed an opportunity by having Rhodes lose: “We’ll be hearing this all summer. ‘Oh, this is perfect. The stars are aligned. It has to happen now.’ We’ve been hearing this the whole time. Two years ago, last SummerSlam with Brock, the Royal Rumble with Kevin Owens, Montreal with Sami, Cardiff with Drew McIntyre, two SummerSlams ago with John Cena. ‘This is where John Cena gets number 17. Wouldn’t it be perfect if he beats Roman Reigns. This is it. John Cena becomes the most decorated champion of all time. Perfect. Everything is in line.’ Of course it’s in line for it. That’s how you make a challenger. If the challenger is, ‘I guess this is okay.’ Nobody is going to buy that. ‘IT HAS TO HAPPEN NOW!’ That’s the promotional business.”it's just business nah, Paul knew that Terry had to win at Barely Legal 97. there’s a time that the story demands a conclusion. gotta be careful with Heyman, guy is perpetually working the listener. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 5, 2023 1:51:51 GMT -5
I think Heyman explained it best but even his genius is having trouble making up for Monday night RAW being in shambles. On if WWE missed an opportunity by having Rhodes lose: “We’ll be hearing this all summer. ‘Oh, this is perfect. The stars are aligned. It has to happen now.’ We’ve been hearing this the whole time. Two years ago, last SummerSlam with Brock, the Royal Rumble with Kevin Owens, Montreal with Sami, Cardiff with Drew McIntyre, two SummerSlams ago with John Cena. ‘This is where John Cena gets number 17. Wouldn’t it be perfect if he beats Roman Reigns. This is it. John Cena becomes the most decorated champion of all time. Perfect. Everything is in line.’ Of course it’s in line for it. That’s how you make a challenger. If the challenger is, ‘I guess this is okay.’ Nobody is going to buy that. ‘IT HAS TO HAPPEN NOW!’ That’s the promotional business.”it's just business I LOVE Paul, but anyone that thought Brock at Summerslam, Owens at Rumble, or Cena at Summerslam 2 years ago would be when Roman lost is a real dummy. I’ll give him Sami, as they did make it believable to a lot of people though he obviously was never going to win. Drew had the believability I think given how the stars aligned but I also wasn’t shocked when Roman won. Cody is legit the first person I actually believed was going to beat Roman during this run. I believe he should have at Mania. He didn’t, but I still believe he will end up being the one to beat Roman eventually. |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Apr 5, 2023 5:36:45 GMT -5
Also at the end of the day, Vince was right about multiple people who he previously released. Not even Triple H could get them over.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Apr 5, 2023 6:52:39 GMT -5
Was it that bad? I only caught the tail end either the Lesnar/Cody beat down. No. It simply didn’t really have any surprises and people are still mad about Cody losing. It was totally not an awful episode of Raw like people are saying. It just wasn’t a Triple H run raw and it was extremely obvious. So was it good? The beginning and end were. That’s about it. The rest saw no progression in any stories or the start of new ones. Which is very VKM. |
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Post by hitmancmedge on Apr 5, 2023 7:02:55 GMT -5
Was it that bad? I only caught the tail end either the Lesnar/Cody beat down. No. It simply didn’t really have any surprises and people are still mad about Cody losing. It was totally not an awful episode of Raw like people are saying. It just wasn’t a Triple H run raw and it was extremely obvious. So was it good? The beginning and end were. That’s about it. The rest saw no progression in any stories or the start of new ones. Which is very VKM. Literally nothing happened except the beginning and end and bad bunny segments. It was all just mania winners coming out, I won at mania, and a mini tournament to see who would face Bianca in Puerto Rico was supposed to happen, but got scrapped at the last minute. |
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