Amusing, socially undesirable randos you know

[saintegenevieve]

It turns out here that you can't advertise your auctions, so it's no longer a concern of mine to unwittingly upset a few here and there. I knew a lot of weird characters in my life

Most amusing one was this bald, seemingly affable weirdo who looked like a mystery meat Hellraiser. There was never a formal introduction between us, not even a shared classroom. I have no idea how or why he got so fixated on me. He'd bothered me at least once a week at a coffee shop where I'd study

Best way to describe this effete muscle head was perpetually smiling as if he had William's Syndrome, characterized by a strange lisp, puerility to his core, a knack for flirtation via insults followed with an impish smirk in anticipation of an aghast response on my end that never seemed to come and whose lack of such seemed to further befuddle him. Imagine Tony Atlas with an inability to read the room and repressed sexual inclinations that makes him visibly angry in random intervals.

He kept trying to add me to Facebook over the years. Always the same pattern. He'd be enthusiastically friendly, then do drive-by responses with insults. I had enough of him after a bit since he's a social undesirable in every sense. He would brag to me that he's majoring in criminal justice (lol!) at an easy university. Of course, there was zero chance he'd pass a psych eval to become a cop

Last time I saw him was when visiting my home town. The guy swung up on me in a car asking if I need a ride... as I'm walking from the parking lot into a mall store...

On a hunch, I looked up his criminal record. No way has he never been cuffed! I find out that he got busted for soliciting a prostitute. I have gone through hundreds of records. I honestly can't recall anyone getting busted for being a john. Cops don't care about crimes like that unless you're a special kind of weirdo

Harding of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest best captures him in film form - an angry, repressed case

[JC Motors]

I don't really know him per say. There was a weird kid I was in 4th grade with who murdered someone in the woods years later.

[Old Zeke]

Dec 18, 2022 8:51:06 GMT -5 JC Motors said:

I don't really know him per say. There was a weird kid I was in 4th grade with who murdered someone in the woods years later.

[The Real Valbroski]

Dec 18, 2022 9:03:36 GMT -5 Old Zeke said:

Dec 18, 2022 8:51:06 GMT -5 JC Motors said:

I don't really know him per say. There was a weird kid I was in 4th grade with who murdered someone in the woods years later.

[Old Zeke]

Dec 18, 2022 10:48:15 GMT -5 The Real Valbroski said:

Dec 18, 2022 9:03:36 GMT -5 Old Zeke said:

[saintegenevieve]

Dec 18, 2022 8:51:06 GMT -5 JC Motors said:

I don't really know him per say. There was a weird kid I was in 4th grade with who murdered someone in the woods years later.

Most murderers that aren't gang-related have an impulse problem.  I knew about 8-12 growing up who ended up doing time (and some still are).

Best example is a cop's kid whose dad was my DARE teacher. He brought up wrestling in his talk, droning on about how it's fake, with references to Hulk Hogan and Nitro. He also said that his wife smokes, which he calculated as taking 2 minutes from your life for each cigarette smoked.  Because of that, he took one cigarette from her pack any time he sees it. 

Fast forward YEARS later, I'd see this weird kid living next door to one of my best friends (an evangelical neo-Confederate, who was really nice in all other respects).  Turns out that that weird kid was the cop's son.  I only talked to him a few times since I did smoke cigarettes and knew a lot of people. Though I'm a loner, everyone liked to talk to me, but only a few ever had real access to me like that.

Fast forward another 10 years or so, as I'm doing some scribe work for a year, this weird kid comes in the book store where I study.  Yo, his voice was strange... combo of being very deep with a growl, almost like a juggalo huffing on that duster thing.  It's the same kid.

He starts by telling me that "he's changed" (I hadn't seen him since he was a freshman), that he met the girl of his dreams (she was present with him), and that they're getting married soon.  I mean, cool. I had no issue with him. It's always nice to see random people from your past.

I swear, not even 6 months after I left town, I scroll through the town newspaper as I always did, just to see the ones I knew getting busted in the local arrest section.  He's in there for MURDER!!

Turns out that that very same girl broke up with him, and he wasn't taking no for an answer.  He hid in a bush near her apartment and blew her head off at 3 or 4 AM just as she was heading to work.. Then the idiot threw the murder weapon in a local dumpster

Now, if you want to know how the law works, he didn't even get life for what was clearly premeditated murder.  He's going to be released in a few years

An old high school classmate who had a lot of PTSD and used to randomly message me for help messaged me one day.  The topic came up.  He told me that one of that cop's kids friends told him that he molested a 12 year old black girl.  I do remember hearing that through the grapevine.  Further, he said that the cop's kid used to brag to people about spying on my evangelical friend who lived next door, seeing her undress. 

I have a remarkable skill in being able to pick up on people's depravities. I'm not sure why.  My husband has listed about a dozen people from DC whom I called out as further criminals or people who'd do something crazy.  (I predicted that Trump would steal classified documents just to spite people.  Also said Gaetz is a pedophile. Subway Guy Jared Fogle is a pedo.)  So there were some from high school who were pathological liars or clear sociopaths with whom the middle class kids would hang out. I can sense dark personalities or a dark side.  Not sure why, again...

With that cop's kid, I always thought he was off... You could see it in his eyes.  It's not that he was evil, as much as he was too dumb and impulsive to really grasp what he was doing or saying.  And people like that can be just as dangerous as someone with murder on their mind.  Murderers are often more like the latter.  They're impulsive chimps, for starters, and it's never easy to know what can set them off.  I guess a woman realizing that he had a knack for going on crack binges, then decided that he wasn't worthy to commit to, set off his wrath, and he blew her head off as that poor lady was going to work, and stalked her apartment doing so.  He's a feral animal.

[Back to the Codyverse]

I had lunch with Pancho Villa one time.

[shanieomaniac]

My ex boyfriend. Some of you might have heard of him.

[saintegenevieve]

Jan 1, 2023 13:27:25 GMT -5 shanieomaniac said:

My ex boyfriend. Some of you might have heard of him.

What's the story there?

My town had a lot of weird people. What's strange is how forgettable most of them are, at least to me


- There was this really dysgenic kid. Had a huge belly, nose hairs coming out of his nose, super gapped teeth, pimples, whatever. He came off as more erudite than he was. Think of a Quasimodo character

He was friends with one of my friends though I never got why she'd hang out with him. (They might not have, as much as he hung out where she worked.)

One day, he attended some funeral of hers where she grandparent died. In the rain, he just kissed her. I couldn't imagine how horrifying that was. She told me all about it, after which I unleashed my mocking fury. I'm really restrained otherwise. She turned him down for years



2. Haven't thought about him in years. He was a really awkward, half Japanese guy in the Navy, who had a knack for approaching me during study to tell me about Neocons, while chuckling to himself like Butthead.

I added him to Facebook years ago. He had a noisy neighbor, pulled a gun in self defense, and California, where he had moved, went out of their way to make an example of him. He'd send me random messages for a good two years asking me to sign his petition.

I can sympathize. He was a corpsman and I guess he transitioned to civilian nursing. He risked losing his license. What struck me was how he had an inability to build personal relationships. He wasn't worthy of mockery. Just like "Hi Dave. What's up?" "Neocons."


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Like I said, these people are kind of forgettable unless they're really imposing or aggressive like the one I brought up. The murderer was weird but he was off for a different reason. You kind of knew he had enough loose screws to kill someone. The public thinks murderers are Gacy characters. Most murderers are really just really dumb people with an impulse control problem. The nihilistic murderers are really rare


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3. Thinking about it. I was at a bar ten years ago. You get these weird guys every now and then who think that the more they insult you, the more likely they are to get laid. I told him of my far right connections. He was one of those weird normie types who seems offended by anyone who doesn't think like him. He escalated. I threw a lit cigarette in his face

[Jack Specific]

Many many years ago, before I lived where I live now, there was a Woman I'd say around 50 some odd years old who lived in the house across the street from us. She lived with her adult child who took care of her but worked mid-shift hours as a nurse I believe. When we moved into that house it may have been a day or so and I get a knock at the door and this woman in a panic asks me if I am with the FBI or CIA. I tell her no but then she just starts accusing me of spying on her because I am some secret agent and she knows it. Eventually she goes away. My wife and I are like "WTF was that?!" Well it happens again and again, and then her daughter comes looking for her and apologizes. Turns out this is what that lady does because there's something wrong with her mentally. For some reason she became fixated on me more than anyone. I have no idea why but I think because I never really got angry with her and most everyone else did. She was very annoying but both my wife and I thought it was funny, not that we were making fun of her but the situation where she thought I was some kind of spy that was after her. One day I just agreed with her and told her yes I am with the FBI and a spy but I good spy on her side trying to find out if there were any bad spies looking for her as I was assigned to protect her. After that she stopped bugging me so much and she liked me. Eventually at one point her daughter even knocked at the door thanking me of being kind and befriending her Mother.

[The Real Chillary]

I knew this guy that insulted a homeless guy and got a bag of meat thrown at his head.

[shanieomaniac]

Jan 3, 2023 1:58:10 GMT -5 saintegenevieve said:

Jan 1, 2023 13:27:25 GMT -5 shanieomaniac said:

My ex boyfriend. Some of you might have heard of him.

What's the story there?

Hahahahahaha... I'll leave you to that one. All I'm gonna say is that I have an ex boyfriend who is basically a cryptid that nobody in their right mind would believe exists unless you knew him personally.

To anyone who does know the story, an update: He had COVID and got an aneurism from it. They gave him three months to live... five months ago. I've decided this is just par for the course with him and am enjoying spending as much time as I can with him while I have the time. Sad, but it is what it is.

[saintegenevieve]

Jan 3, 2023 9:11:18 GMT -5 Jack Specific said:

Many many years ago, before I lived where I live now, there was a Woman I'd say around 50 some odd years old who lived in the house across the street from us. She lived with her adult child who took care of her but worked mid-shift hours as a nurse I believe. When we moved into that house it may have been a day or so and I get a knock at the door and this woman in a panic asks me if I am with the FBI or CIA. I tell her no but then she just starts accusing me of spying on her because I am some secret agent and she knows it. Eventually she goes away. My wife and I are like "WTF was that?!" Well it happens again and again, and then her daughter comes looking for her and apologizes. Turns out this is what that lady does because there's something wrong with her mentally. For some reason she became fixated on me more than anyone. I have no idea why but I think because I never really got angry with her and most everyone else did. She was very annoying but both my wife and I thought it was funny, not that we were making fun of her but the situation where she thought I was some kind of spy that was after her. One day I just agreed with her and told her yes I am with the FBI and a spy but I good spy on her side trying to find out if there were any bad spies looking for her as I was assigned to protect her. After that she stopped bugging me so much and she liked me. Eventually at one point her daughter even knocked at the door thanking me of being kind and befriending her Mother.

That's clever and funny.

My Dad and I reconnected last month since he's homeless and needed money. I sent him about $750. He was telling me about his ex-wife (his second wife) for whom he fled from my mother (his first wife).

He tells me that his second wife is a nut, used the HOA to levy fines at him after she forced him to move out from a DV dispute. (His story is that she kept going in the bedroom cussing a storm and pulling off his blanket before he was to go to work. She took his car keys, so he called his friend for a ride. As he's leaving, she's cursing a storm and he called her a bitch. On those grounds, he was forced to move out. How true that is, I don't know because he is a pathological liar, even if he's amusing enough for me to still love him.)

He told me a story that when his son (my half brother) was put in the toddler's seat, her phone went missing. My dad was doing mercenary work in Africa at the time. He told her never to call him there since lines can get tapped. But she called. Then called again. Until he answered... She starts barking about how she left her phone on the roof of the car while seating the kid, and someone took her phone. Dad is like "Did you see anyone take it?" "No." (I already knew that this story was hokey because no one's going to do a grab-and-go over a cell phone from that position.) My dad suspected that the phone fell as she was driving off. Anyway, he's like "Just buy yourself another phone. I only make $100,000+ a year tax free."

Fast forward a few years later, my dad is cleaning out the car and finds it snugged under the back seat. He shows her the phone

She lost her mind, started to accuse him of having sent his "CIA friends" to steal her phone from her, so that he could plant it a few years later to gaslight her. Dad was telling me "She really believes this."

I never had a bad relationship with his second wife. She was kind of high maintenance, but my dad left when I was a toddler, so his leaving was never "disruptive" to me like it was to my brother. However, I did see signs that, for the sake of peace in the annual two week stay there, I chose not to broach. Things like when she'd be bad and start chain smoking in the kitchen like a cowgirl (she wasn't a smoker), getting into a screaming match with my dad about having "abandoned his kids [in the hood]" (the divorce was driven by her and him), and loading up green beans with salt and looking at him with psycho eyes as he's eating it, with his face all red, asking "Do you LIKE IT?" I haven't seen her in 20 years.

My dad is probably embellishing but he told me that he kept me away from his family since she's a nut. Maybe but an advanced warning should have been issued. He disclosed that she beat him with clothes hangers. I advised that he needs to be careful next time since he likes danger, and guys like that fall into the vice of dangerous women

And despite that history, my mother called me up two days ago, telling me that my dad called her, telling him that his "weiner is cold" and that he would like a warm bed in which to sleep. My mom is like me, in that we're very detached and live like nuns. I think she finds him amusing. (I do too.) He then suggests that they make a porn tape to send to his ex-wife. That was all after he whined to her a few months ago about his relationship (fling, turned Double Income No Kids, turned married) that he left her over. He never apologized for having abandoned us, saying he was young (he was 32 years old).

The other day, he tried to send me a birthday text but accidentally sent it to my mom, who then told him of his error. I'm like "That's cool. Don't worry about it. Glad you two are getting along." He's like "Does that make you happy?" "Dad, you know I don't believe in happiness. I believe in the denial of self." Had no idea on that day that he was trying to sext my mom a few days before that.

My husband is the one bailing him out. It's kind of cringey to see that he hasn't learned a thing from his own transgressions. We just hope that he's not blowing money on hookers. It's entirely plausible that he killed someone before. He once took me to an isolated lake when I was 14. He's like "See you this?" It's an antique gun. Then he chucks it into the lake: "No one will see this gun for another hundred years." I'm like "Uh? Wow." Looking back, he probably killed someone, having gotten rid of the murder weapon 🤣 Did he kill a prostitute? A guy banging his second wife??

Husband is like "You have a way of introducing the most interesting characters to my life."

[TheSystem 1.5]

Jan 5, 2023 4:48:45 GMT -5 saintegenevieve said:

Jan 3, 2023 9:11:18 GMT -5 Jack Specific said:

Many many years ago, before I lived where I live now, there was a Woman I'd say around 50 some odd years old who lived in the house across the street from us. She lived with her adult child who took care of her but worked mid-shift hours as a nurse I believe. When we moved into that house it may have been a day or so and I get a knock at the door and this woman in a panic asks me if I am with the FBI or CIA. I tell her no but then she just starts accusing me of spying on her because I am some secret agent and she knows it. Eventually she goes away. My wife and I are like "WTF was that?!" Well it happens again and again, and then her daughter comes looking for her and apologizes. Turns out this is what that lady does because there's something wrong with her mentally. For some reason she became fixated on me more than anyone. I have no idea why but I think because I never really got angry with her and most everyone else did. She was very annoying but both my wife and I thought it was funny, not that we were making fun of her but the situation where she thought I was some kind of spy that was after her. One day I just agreed with her and told her yes I am with the FBI and a spy but I good spy on her side trying to find out if there were any bad spies looking for her as I was assigned to protect her. After that she stopped bugging me so much and she liked me. Eventually at one point her daughter even knocked at the door thanking me of being kind and befriending her Mother.

That's clever and funny.

My Dad and I reconnected last month since he's homeless and needed money. I sent him about $750. He was telling me about his ex-wife (his second wife) for whom he fled from my mother (his first wife).

He tells me that his second wife is a nut, used the HOA to levy fines at him after she forced him to move out from a DV dispute. (His story is that she kept going in the bedroom cussing a storm and pulling off his blanket before he was to go to work. She took his car keys, so he called his friend for a ride. As he's leaving, she's cursing a storm and he called her a bitch. On those grounds, he was forced to move out. How true that is, I don't know because he is a pathological liar, even if he's amusing enough for me to still love him.)

He told me a story that when his son (my half brother) was put in the toddler's seat, her phone went missing. My dad was doing mercenary work in Africa at the time. He told her never to call him there since lines can get tapped. But she called. Then called again. Until he answered... She starts barking about how she left her phone on the roof of the car while seating the kid, and someone took her phone. Dad is like "Did you see anyone take it?" "No." (I already knew that this story was hokey because no one's going to do a grab-and-go over a cell phone from that position.) My dad suspected that the phone fell as she was driving off. Anyway, he's like "Just buy yourself another phone. I only make $100,000+ a year tax free."

Fast forward a few years later, my dad is cleaning out the car and finds it snugged under the back seat. He shows her the phone

She lost her mind, started to accuse him of having sent his "CIA friends" to steal her phone from her, so that he could plant it a few years later to gaslight her. Dad was telling me "She really believes this."

I never had a bad relationship with his second wife. She was kind of high maintenance, but my dad left when I was a toddler, so his leaving was never "disruptive" to me like it was to my brother. However, I did see signs that, for the sake of peace in the annual two week stay there, I chose not to broach. Things like when she'd be bad and start chain smoking in the kitchen like a cowgirl (she wasn't a smoker), getting into a screaming match with my dad about having "abandoned his kids [in the hood]" (the divorce was driven by her and him), and loading up green beans with salt and looking at him with psycho eyes as he's eating it, with his face all red, asking "Do you LIKE IT?" I haven't seen her in 20 years.

My dad is probably embellishing but he told me that he kept me away from his family since she's a nut. Maybe but an advanced warning should have been issued. He disclosed that she beat him with clothes hangers. I advised that he needs to be careful next time since he likes danger, and guys like that fall into the vice of dangerous women

And despite that history, my mother called me up two days ago, telling me that my dad called her, telling him that his "weiner is cold" and that he would like a warm bed in which to sleep. My mom is like me, in that we're very detached and live like nuns. I think she finds him amusing. (I do too.) He then suggests that they make a porn tape to send to his ex-wife. That was all after he whined to her a few months ago about his relationship (fling, turned Double Income No Kids, turned married) that he left her over. He never apologized for having abandoned us, saying he was young (he was 32 years old).

The other day, he tried to send me a birthday text but accidentally sent it to my mom, who then told him of his error. I'm like "That's cool. Don't worry about it. Glad you two are getting along." He's like "Does that make you happy?" "Dad, you know I don't believe in happiness. I believe in the denial of self." Had no idea on that day that he was trying to sext my mom a few days before that.

My husband is the one bailing him out. It's kind of cringey to see that he hasn't learned a thing from his own transgressions. We just hope that he's not blowing money on hookers. It's entirely plausible that he killed someone before. He once took me to an isolated lake when I was 14. He's like "See you this?" It's an antique gun. Then he chucks it into the lake: "No one will see this gun for another hundred years." I'm like "Uh? Wow." Looking back, he probably killed someone, having gotten rid of the murder weapon 🤣 Did he kill a prostitute? A guy banging his second wife??

Husband is like "You have a way of introducing the most interesting characters to my life."

You cant just causally mention that your pops was a friggin’ mercenary and move on like it’s a bad joke over family dinner

[The Real Valbroski]

Jan 3, 2023 9:11:18 GMT -5 Jack Specific said:

Many many years ago, before I lived where I live now, there was a Woman I'd say around 50 some odd years old who lived in the house across the street from us. She lived with her adult child who took care of her but worked mid-shift hours as a nurse I believe. When we moved into that house it may have been a day or so and I get a knock at the door and this woman in a panic asks me if I am with the FBI or CIA. I tell her no but then she just starts accusing me of spying on her because I am some secret agent and she knows it. Eventually she goes away. My wife and I are like "WTF was that?!" Well it happens again and again, and then her daughter comes looking for her and apologizes. Turns out this is what that lady does because there's something wrong with her mentally. For some reason she became fixated on me more than anyone. I have no idea why but I think because I never really got angry with her and most everyone else did. She was very annoying but both my wife and I thought it was funny, not that we were making fun of her but the situation where she thought I was some kind of spy that was after her. One day I just agreed with her and told her yes I am with the FBI and a spy but I good spy on her side trying to find out if there were any bad spies looking for her as I was assigned to protect her. After that she stopped bugging me so much and she liked me. Eventually at one point her daughter even knocked at the door thanking me of being kind and befriending her Mother.

Jack Spycific

[Slaughterama]

I am.. I’ll just say I’m in the martial arts community. That in itself isn’t supposed to be impressive. Just like how a lot of people install security systems, get a hyper vigilant ‘guard dog’, get jacked up to look physically imposing, and I’m not saying any of those things are bad or wrong, but people want to be able to protect themselves. And rightly so. Though within the community there are some strange cats… Some of the strangest people you will ever meet. And weirder than any students are the freaking instructors. And not only do they LARP martial arts, they LARP everything. ‘Experts’ in/on the arts, the law, your health, my health, relationships, parenting, what is fun, what is not, what motivates, what doesn’t, politics, religion, drugs, history.

[saintegenevieve]

Jan 5, 2023 10:04:13 GMT -5 TheSystem 1.5 said:

Jan 5, 2023 4:48:45 GMT -5 saintegenevieve said:

That's clever and funny.

My Dad and I reconnected last month since he's homeless and needed money. I sent him about $750. He was telling me about his ex-wife (his second wife) for whom he fled from my mother (his first wife).

He tells me that his second wife is a nut, used the HOA to levy fines at him after she forced him to move out from a DV dispute. (His story is that she kept going in the bedroom cussing a storm and pulling off his blanket before he was to go to work. She took his car keys, so he called his friend for a ride. As he's leaving, she's cursing a storm and he called her a bitch. On those grounds, he was forced to move out. How true that is, I don't know because he is a pathological liar, even if he's amusing enough for me to still love him.)

He told me a story that when his son (my half brother) was put in the toddler's seat, her phone went missing. My dad was doing mercenary work in Africa at the time. He told her never to call him there since lines can get tapped. But she called. Then called again. Until he answered... She starts barking about how she left her phone on the roof of the car while seating the kid, and someone took her phone. Dad is like "Did you see anyone take it?" "No." (I already knew that this story was hokey because no one's going to do a grab-and-go over a cell phone from that position.) My dad suspected that the phone fell as she was driving off. Anyway, he's like "Just buy yourself another phone. I only make $100,000+ a year tax free."

Fast forward a few years later, my dad is cleaning out the car and finds it snugged under the back seat. He shows her the phone

She lost her mind, started to accuse him of having sent his "CIA friends" to steal her phone from her, so that he could plant it a few years later to gaslight her. Dad was telling me "She really believes this."

I never had a bad relationship with his second wife. She was kind of high maintenance, but my dad left when I was a toddler, so his leaving was never "disruptive" to me like it was to my brother. However, I did see signs that, for the sake of peace in the annual two week stay there, I chose not to broach. Things like when she'd be bad and start chain smoking in the kitchen like a cowgirl (she wasn't a smoker), getting into a screaming match with my dad about having "abandoned his kids [in the hood]" (the divorce was driven by her and him), and loading up green beans with salt and looking at him with psycho eyes as he's eating it, with his face all red, asking "Do you LIKE IT?" I haven't seen her in 20 years.

My dad is probably embellishing but he told me that he kept me away from his family since she's a nut. Maybe but an advanced warning should have been issued. He disclosed that she beat him with clothes hangers. I advised that he needs to be careful next time since he likes danger, and guys like that fall into the vice of dangerous women

And despite that history, my mother called me up two days ago, telling me that my dad called her, telling him that his "weiner is cold" and that he would like a warm bed in which to sleep. My mom is like me, in that we're very detached and live like nuns. I think she finds him amusing. (I do too.) He then suggests that they make a porn tape to send to his ex-wife. That was all after he whined to her a few months ago about his relationship (fling, turned Double Income No Kids, turned married) that he left her over. He never apologized for having abandoned us, saying he was young (he was 32 years old).

The other day, he tried to send me a birthday text but accidentally sent it to my mom, who then told him of his error. I'm like "That's cool. Don't worry about it. Glad you two are getting along." He's like "Does that make you happy?" "Dad, you know I don't believe in happiness. I believe in the denial of self." Had no idea on that day that he was trying to sext my mom a few days before that.

My husband is the one bailing him out. It's kind of cringey to see that he hasn't learned a thing from his own transgressions. We just hope that he's not blowing money on hookers. It's entirely plausible that he killed someone before. He once took me to an isolated lake when I was 14. He's like "See you this?" It's an antique gun. Then he chucks it into the lake: "No one will see this gun for another hundred years." I'm like "Uh? Wow." Looking back, he probably killed someone, having gotten rid of the murder weapon 🤣 Did he kill a prostitute? A guy banging his second wife??

Husband is like "You have a way of introducing the most interesting characters to my life."

You cant just causally mention that your pops was a friggin’ mercenary and move on like it’s a bad joke over family dinner

Really? lol. I grew up around so much weirdness that him being a merc is almost not outlandish. Maybe it is

I don't know much about it tbh. This is what I do know

A bit after the Iraq War, he got contracted by the State Department to work in Niger. I just got a lot of pictures from my mother a few weeks back, which I'm thankful to have given that I have so few of him.

I have kept up with my dad over the years because I have a lot of connections myself. He got in trouble with the French Army there. This is all reconstructed.

My dad speaks fluent French. He learned this from his time in the country back in the 70's and 80's, early into the time of such when he married my mother. My grandpa never wanted her to marry a Parisian. My dad was some young guy in the Marines.

My grandma, which I found out on Christmas from my mother, is a lot like me. She was frequently apocalyptic, read far right editorials, thought a world war would break out every week (I don't think that way but I'm also more educated), and she had some kind of ties of General Raoul Salan, who was Commander in Chief of the French Union Forces in Indochina, then later ran Algeria, after which he joined the OAS (Organisation de l'armée secrète), which waged terrorist attacks against Charles de Gaulle for almost a decade. My mother grew up in the hottest environment of that scene. My dad met Raoul Salan through that; then, when he was stationed in Germany, he became pals with a lot of SS officers, one of whom even sold him a Benz that he couldn't afford.

When he was courting my mother, he told them that he was part of the Last Stand in Vietnam circa 1975. My grandma believed him, grandpa remarking that he looked a little young. On the day of their wedding, he told my mom that he was 20, not 23 years old... like, she should've gotten an annulment but didn't.

He told her that he would return to France to join the French Army. I've told my mother since that that was never going to happen unless he joined the Foreign Legion. Why? 1. They weren't going to let him transfer as a sergeant to the mainland French Army. They're not going to take barking orders from a stupid American. Second, in what branch would he have joined? He would have been too old to join the French Marines (naval infantry). He could have joined the Army but he wasn't going to get rank. Fact is that he never had a French citizenship so all of that was moot. His one recourse was to join the French Foreign Legion. Possible but you wouldn't transfer into the Legion as a sergeant. He would have started as a "simple soldat" for about 2 years. Pay sucks. He could have done an acceleration course on condition that he was top of his class. Then, he would have been placed as a "caporal chef." It's not impossible but he would have been competing against Eastern Bloc refugees, Africans, French felons in flight, etc. Going from staff sergeant to a low rank like that is rarely done unless you're legit crazy. There's no chance that he would have gone into the mainland army, certainly not with a rank transfer

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It's in that subtext where, in Africa, he started to tell people that he was in the Foreign Legion. It was really stupid because he was in French territory. Yes, France doesn't run the Empire anymore, but a lot of mercenaries, retired army professionals, far right types (like Marine Le Pen's niece), French combat forces live out there. It wouldn't have been that hard for my dad's con to get unraveled, which is what happened

The Legion has something called "the Gestapo," who are army people trained in private investigation. That's how they screen out recruits. They will find out everything.

Like I said, I have a lot of connections there. People know me. It has a lot to do with my academic work. Eventually I got a tip to a Facebook page. Note that I didn't know the investigator who led what was uncovered

It was a page made about my dad in Africa. Lots of posts. What struck me is that a few posts got made about him that he

a) got booted from the army for beating up a recruit as a drill instructor

b) got booted from the Marines for choking his ex-wife (my mother)

I told my mother years ago about B. She protested, saying that was impossible. I pushed harder. This is the earliest memory of my life. My dad rushed into our apartment. I remember he opened up a can of what might have been sardines, wolfing it down. They got into a dispute. He took this huge portrait and broke it on the floor. Glass was everywhere. In the midst of this - I don't remember this but I always knew of the event - he choked her out. I equally remember a social worker coming to the apartment. I also remember screaming at him to stop. I hit him with something. I want to say that he kicked me in the face.

I asked my mother what happened with the social worker. She told me that she really wanted to have charges be pressed. "Did you follow through?" She told me "No," that we would have risked being put in foster care, she had no job, barely spoke English, and nothing good was going to come out of it.

Well, obviously the Gestapo knew what happened, so obviously it was in his military file. It was clear that the social worker minimally told his commanding officer. My mother wouldn't have known either way, but my guess is my dad either got court martialed or took a severance package. I do know that he ended up with a lot of money. He claims to be retired. He might be legally. But he was out of the service after 16 years... I'm not familiar with how those legal intricacies would have played out exactly

The Gestapo also noted that he was cheating on his wife in Africa. My view is that, though his second wife was undoubtedly a Borderline case, I find it hard to believe that my dad didn't cheat on her. He's a porn addict (I found his porn account, including his weiner pic in the avatar), cheated on my mom all the time, and has always been into swinger stuff. (My mom is like me, priestly, so we're both inherently monogamous. He did want her to swing. She didn't. My dad found women elsewhere. Also, his second wife got ovarian cancer and I wonder if that came from an STD, especially if he's messing around in Africa.)

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A few years ago, my dad called me up. I want to say that this is about 2018. He explained why he left to me. He said my mother didn't want to attend a Marine Corps ball with him, after he worked for a year from 6 AM to midnight to become the top recruiter in the State of California. He found another woman (the one from whom he's now divorced), he was young (29 at the youngest), so he bailed.

In that talk, he told me what happened in Africa...

He said that they led anti-terrorism training for Nigerian forces. Upon their graduation, there was a ceremony where their flag was to be hoisted either on par with or below the French flag. My dad, ever being the hero, came in and had the Nigerian general put the Nigerian flag above the French flag. Because of that, he got heat

He also said that he had an African woman villager make serval boots for him.

Once at home, the Environmental Wildlife and Fishing agency stopped by his house, saying that they got a tip that he was importing animals to the country and that he was facing felony charges.

My dad claims that they offered a bribe, that they searched his house, took the gator boots, and the boa constrictor belt that had nothing to do with his sejour into Africa.

He blamed it on an environmentalist within his mercenary team

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Aligning the facts and never once telling him what I knew (which was a lot), I think

1. He told people he was in the Legion. Why else would the Legion have a hard-on for him?

2. You could explain away that the Legion had it out for him over what happened at the graduation ceremony of the Nigerian Army. Problem is that the story sounds implausible. You mean to tell me that HE interceded in a ceremony about their flag and pwned the French Army? What would his commanding officer (to whatever degree they exist in these outfits) have thought? It would have been an act of profound insubordination, the kind of story my dad would tell just to get himself over. The Americans don't have that kind of reach into Africa. They don't know the region. A few US Army Rangers got lit there a few years later, saved by the French Air Army. I find it unbelievable that an American commander would have let him take those kinds of liberties. I mean, American influence can be weird and petty but c'mon

3. Conspicuous is that my dad never once mentioned the Foreign Legion. The guy who led the Facebook page had been in the Foreign Legion for 40 years, was a PI within the Legion (Gestapo), and ran a private security firm somewhere in Africa. I don't remember where. But he is a total spook character. I only got connected to him through third parties. I did send him a message once through LinkedIn.

4. What I didn't know is that the spook had read my message, though he never replied to it. How? Because the Facebook page where they bury my dad no longer has any reference to the fact that he choked his ex-wife (my mother). He understood that I was his daughter. I didn't ask him to remove anything but to tell me what my dad did. My guess is that the spook thought that he might have broached a code of honor, which is heavy in French military culture

5. It seems pretty obvious that the Legion gave him away to US authorities about importing endangered species, not some unknown "environmentalist" of his own American mercenary team

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Final anecdote. I asked my dad what French units had beef with him. He gave a short reply: 5e Régiment interarmes d'outre-mer (5th Overseas Interarms Regiment).

Here's the problem with that. One, the 5e RIAOM is not based in Niger. In fact, I don't recall the unit ever losing men in enemy combat. They're (historically) a penal battalion "of the ones damned" that has stayed in the army. They lead training. They are extraordinarily tough people stationed in Djibouti. And frankly, I suspect they would have killed my dad. (In fairness, the Gestapo PI told my dad not to come back to Africa.)

Assessing what I know, what he told me, and just using sound reasoning, especially since my dad never seems to bring up the Foreign Legion, I think he's scared that they tap his phone lines and would put a hit on him. (He used to write to Charles Manson, who would send him drawings. One day, Manson threatened my dad in letter, saying that he would kill him when he gets paroled. He moved over that lol). Seems clear that he lied about his service in Africa, got investigated, did some illegal deeds (like importing animals) and immoral deeds (like cheating on his wife), and then got banned from returning to the country, leading to financial issues that he now has.

That's the story.

[saintegenevieve]

Jan 6, 2023 7:38:23 GMT -5 Slaughterama said:

I am.. I’ll just say I’m in the martial arts community. That in itself isn’t supposed to be impressive. Just like how a lot of people install security systems, get a hyper vigilant ‘guard dog’, get jacked up to look physically imposing, and I’m not saying any of those things are bad or wrong, but people want to be able to protect themselves. And rightly so. Though within the community there are some strange cats… Some of the strangest people you will ever meet. And weirder than any students are the freaking instructors. And not only do they LARP martial arts, they LARP everything. ‘Experts’ in/on the arts, the law, your health, my health, relationships, parenting, what is fun, what is not, what motivates, what doesn’t, politics, religion, drugs, history.

I've never been around martial arts instructors but I think PE teachers are of the same ilk. They're all like "I would've made it to the pros if it wasn't for [insert injury]." A childhood friend's brother now does that. He named his kid after a Street Fighter character. Add in the religiously illiterate woo woo interpretations of various Eastern faiths, and it is LARPy af

My favorite story is a guy who's now a wrestler. He was all into the Bruce Lee craze in the 80's and went against one of his top students. He remarked that both he and his brother easily beat him in an MMA kind of thing (where you could use whatever moves you want). He left thinking Bruce Lee and that lot were all carnies whose fighting capital depended on nonsensical stories I'd hear in the 90's from Marines that they can kill someone by striking a pressure point 🙄 I guess if you're prone to believing whatever and think sticking toothpicks into your body gets you ready for combat, you're going to believe that weird stuff

My ex remarked to me recently about my remarkable academic work that he noticed that pious Muslims are some of the top MMA fighters. He pinned it to true belief and remarked similarly that my work is remarkable because I'm a pious Catholic. I thought that was interesting in contrast to the carny stuff of Westerners appropriating Eastern religions because they're "peaceful" (Richard Gere). It's almost like these people don't realize that Buddhists have engaged in their own Crusades and have set themselves ablaze in protests

Also, Chuck Norris was a total carny. He "won" competitions through a points system based on how judges feel the strike would have played out in real life. Even Jim Cornette laughed that the guy couldn't kick higher than Jeff Jarrett's hip

[Slaughterama]

Jan 8, 2023 12:05:33 GMT -5 saintegenevieve said:

Jan 6, 2023 7:38:23 GMT -5 Slaughterama said:

I am.. I’ll just say I’m in the martial arts community. That in itself isn’t supposed to be impressive. Just like how a lot of people install security systems, get a hyper vigilant ‘guard dog’, get jacked up to look physically imposing, and I’m not saying any of those things are bad or wrong, but people want to be able to protect themselves. And rightly so. Though within the community there are some strange cats… Some of the strangest people you will ever meet. And weirder than any students are the freaking instructors. And not only do they LARP martial arts, they LARP everything. ‘Experts’ in/on the arts, the law, your health, my health, relationships, parenting, what is fun, what is not, what motivates, what doesn’t, politics, religion, drugs, history.

I've never been around martial arts instructors but I think PE teachers are of the same ilk. They're all like "I would've made it to the pros if it wasn't for [insert injury]." A childhood friend's brother now does that. He named his kid after a Street Fighter character. Add in the religiously illiterate woo woo interpretations of various Eastern faiths, and it is LARPy af

My favorite story is a guy who's now a wrestler. He was all into the Bruce Lee craze in the 80's and went against one of his top students. He remarked that both he and his brother easily beat him in an MMA kind of thing (where you could use whatever moves you want). He left thinking Bruce Lee and that lot were all carnies whose fighting capital depended on nonsensical stories I'd hear in the 90's from Marines that they can kill someone by striking a pressure point 🙄 I guess if you're prone to believing whatever and think sticking toothpicks into your body gets you ready for combat, you're going to believe that weird stuff

My ex remarked to me recently about my remarkable academic work that he noticed that pious Muslims are some of the top MMA fighters. He pinned it to true belief and remarked similarly that my work is remarkable because I'm a pious Catholic. I thought that was interesting in contrast to the carny stuff of Westerners appropriating Eastern religions because they're "peaceful" (Richard Gere). It's almost like these people don't realize that Buddhists have engaged in their own Crusades and have set themselves ablaze in protests

Also, Chuck Norris was a total carny. He "won" competitions through a points system based on how judges feel the strike would have played out in real life. Even Jim Cornette laughed that the guy couldn't kick higher than Jeff Jarrett's hip

A lot of it is very woo and very typical of the LARPers. Eastern mysticism/spirituality and the fortune cookie wisdom is a powerful distraction tool, and a big part of what lures people in. The word(s) tradition/traditional are thrown around a lot and people put up with a lot of abuse based on so-called traditions. A lot of westerners in particular will make reference to the Far East and how they live, traditions there, superstitions and so on. Having spent a bit of time there, I have found much of it to be untrue, greatly exaggerated, dated, or it’s only practiced by particular groups of such and such a lineage.

Lineage and association are often more important to people than how good the person is at martial arts or fighting. Anything that can be used as a distraction from actually training with aliveness. Injuries are a big one. Either someone can’t train because of this or they won’t train because they don’t want to experience that. Fair enough. However they do want to keep on LARPing and playing a character. 

It’s the same with most things, in all areas of life. And whatever, but a lot of people are taken for a ride, do get abused. Uniforms/belts, certificates, “tradition”, mysticism and woo woo nonsense are all tools that people use. Eastern mysticism is of some interest to me, but a lot of the spiritual wisdom found there is universal, and it’s not really anything that you won’t read about in Christianity. 

[saintegenevieve]

Jan 8, 2023 15:33:52 GMT -5 Slaughterama said:

Jan 8, 2023 12:05:33 GMT -5 saintegenevieve said:

I've never been around martial arts instructors but I think PE teachers are of the same ilk. They're all like "I would've made it to the pros if it wasn't for [insert injury]." A childhood friend's brother now does that. He named his kid after a Street Fighter character. Add in the religiously illiterate woo woo interpretations of various Eastern faiths, and it is LARPy af

My favorite story is a guy who's now a wrestler. He was all into the Bruce Lee craze in the 80's and went against one of his top students. He remarked that both he and his brother easily beat him in an MMA kind of thing (where you could use whatever moves you want). He left thinking Bruce Lee and that lot were all carnies whose fighting capital depended on nonsensical stories I'd hear in the 90's from Marines that they can kill someone by striking a pressure point 🙄 I guess if you're prone to believing whatever and think sticking toothpicks into your body gets you ready for combat, you're going to believe that weird stuff

My ex remarked to me recently about my remarkable academic work that he noticed that pious Muslims are some of the top MMA fighters. He pinned it to true belief and remarked similarly that my work is remarkable because I'm a pious Catholic. I thought that was interesting in contrast to the carny stuff of Westerners appropriating Eastern religions because they're "peaceful" (Richard Gere). It's almost like these people don't realize that Buddhists have engaged in their own Crusades and have set themselves ablaze in protests

Also, Chuck Norris was a total carny. He "won" competitions through a points system based on how judges feel the strike would have played out in real life. Even Jim Cornette laughed that the guy couldn't kick higher than Jeff Jarrett's hip

A lot of it is very woo and very typical of the LARPers. Eastern mysticism/spirituality and the fortune cookie wisdom is a powerful distraction tool, and a big part of what lures people in. The word(s) tradition/traditional are thrown around a lot and people put up with a lot of abuse based on so-called traditions. A lot of westerners in particular will make reference to the Far East and how they live, traditions there, superstitions and so on. Having spent a bit of time there, I have found much of it to be untrue, greatly exaggerated, dated, or it’s only practiced by particular groups of such and such a lineage.

Lineage and association are often more important to people than how good the person is at martial arts or fighting. Anything that can be used as a distraction from actually training with aliveness. Injuries are a big one. Either someone can’t train because of this or they won’t train because they don’t want to experience that. Fair enough. However they do want to keep on LARPing and playing a character. 

It’s the same with most things, in all areas of life. And whatever, but a lot of people are taken for a ride, do get abused. Uniforms/belts, certificates, “tradition”, mysticism and woo woo nonsense are all tools that people use. Eastern mysticism is of some interest to me, but a lot of the spiritual wisdom found there is universal, and it’s not really anything that you won’t read about in Christianity. 

Thanks for that. My husband and I were at Whole Foods last month. As I went to the bathroom, I read these fliers on the bulletin board for whom I presume are workers making their way to the back room where schedules are placed. It struck me as really weird to see bulletins about Hindu gurus about "finding peace" and individualistic expression, as well as finding your "true self."

My first thought was "Catholicism already does all of this stuff." Just by virtue of cultural exposure, it's going to make more intuitive sense than something exotic like Hinduism. My other thought was a bit darker. It struck me that bougie Americans in particular, and those whom fancy them like service economy laborers, are really debased and provincial. It would be hard to argue a single country is more parochial than India. There's no notion of "choice" there in the sense of what has characterized liberalism for hundreds of years. Different castes are highly discouraged from marrying one other. Marriages are often arranged. Women get gang raped, often by other women, literally, or are thrown acid in her face for turning down a village incel preoccupied with her, despite the fact that in at least one case, she was already married and that the incel was literally a stalker.

Not to mention their tendency in the US to be the most labor-exploitative people in the country. It wasn't rare in my area for one of them to buy up fast food and hotel franchises, hire underbelly people (in the most literal sense), cut their hours to under 25 so that the State (taxpayers) pay for their health insurance, and foster the most racist culture imaginable. I once worked front desk at one of the hotels. The owner literally fired a black girl who had been working there for 3 years for not being happy with a nickel raise. It's hard to describe business practices more parasitic. We were all paid minimum; then the owner decided to force us to pay for uniforms to be dry cleaned. I filed a labor complaint and got a $200 check sent to me at my college that I badly needed.

Remember that transgender weirdo in Britain? I don't remember his name. He was a Brit who'd get plastic surgeries and "self-identified" as Korean because he was into K-pop? It's the same kind of fetish. Korea is very parochial. I'm married to one. Yes, the most recent generation has changed, rapidly liberalized, and (sadly given how beautiful that population is) aren't having kids anymore. But go deal with older Koreans from the Korean War period. It's one of the only countries in the world where women kill men more than men kill women. Same in India. Why? Because guys beat TF out of their wives.

What led up to the LA Riots was a black girl who walked into a liquor store owned by Koreans. (Really, that stuff is parasitic too, no different than pawn shop owners, who exploit crackheads and the underbelly with jacked up prices, then get robbed for it.) I don't remember if she stole. She might have. Either way, the Korean woman blew her head off. Then jurors found her guilty on manslaughter, after which she faced no sentence. That was one of the predicates to the LA Riots and why the OJ Simpson case was so contentious. Let's be real. I'm not big into identity politics but I don't think she would have gotten away with shooting anyone else, then get off with no time on a manslaughter charge. That was also Los Angeles County. That and Orange County re-did Jim Crow after the South got scapegoated for race relations, which to this day impact the obscene real estate prices. That was a proactive measure by the elite within California, no different than how LAPD became the most militarized police force in the country by 1965 and ushered in three strikes. I'm not moralizing. I don't do that. Just saying, it is what it is and that's how the powers aligned. To this day, Orange County still has the most neo-Nazis per capita

So yes, there's a real phobia about the West and Western tradition. What these ethnomasochists don't get is that for their political cause, it won't get much better than it is here, right now, in the West and that India is no magic fix to their alienation. SJWs are finding that out now, having abandoned BLM because blacks knew the obvious that Ukrainians were given special treatment against Russia because they're "white" and Russians are "Mongoloids" (an old stereotype dated to the Russian Revolution, resurged by the liberal elite), and now SJWs have turned into hardcore Neocons. There's a reason why... it's because they can't socially engineer certain social issues in the US without backing from the administrative state. It's best to weaponize these issues (wokeism) under the pretext of human rights, then create fifth columnists out of that.

In my view, the United States has always been an inverted Marxist state, as much the left as the right doing that. (In fact, Republicans parallel Marxists to the tee in every sense but that's a more complicated framework.) I guess I'm partisan towards the Yockey view of the post-war situation. It's not that I'm cool with the interwar far right but I don't ascribe "evil" to it. Reality is that they were spearheads against Communism; without the Pope calling for a Crusade against Communism, they had to do the job. Reality is that all of Europe suffered for American foreign policy of that period: Empires died, we became a protectorate, Germany got flooded with porno, communism expanded into Poland (which FDR thought was a great idea because he was a debased creep), and the war against the European mind continues by increasingly destroying our notions of history, blood, folk, folklore, and faith, through the weapons of identity politics and consumerism.


EDIT: Yockey in the sense that American influence has been more dangerous than communism, nothing more. That's similar to people like Alain de Benoist