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Post by grandmasterPRA on Jun 22, 2024 19:36:07 GMT -5
Jeez...I have a lot of frustrations with this line, mostly because I'm only interested in 6 inch legends. But there is no denying the figures look fantastic. Wave 1 are awesome looking figures and Wahoo looks amazing.
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Post by azraelms on Jun 22, 2024 20:08:38 GMT -5
This line had so much promise when it debuted but now it seems to have started to fizzle out?! From what I read, the people behind it are all business executives and former toy industry executives so they should know what they are doing?! Several missteps have been made which is why I am sitting on the sidelines: 1- The figures are priced too high. International collectors have been priced out from the start, I was hoping to pick up a few based on the rumoured list of signings (Rougeau Brothers, Poffo Brothers) but they are way too expensive (over $60 CDN for 1 figure ). It looks like they are trying to market these as high end collectibles yet the value for the price they are charging is not there. They don't come with double jointed knees & elbows (standard articulation in this day and age), no fabric accessories, no extra heads and why are they only giving them 1 extra hand instead of a full set?! 2- They are moving at a snails pace- is this normal for a line like this that operates on a pre-order system and only produces a limited amount of each wave?! It looks they will only be releasing 1 wave per year the way they are going.
3- Their communication has been as poor as Mattel's distribution. They don't need to give updates every day or every week but there should be regular communication with customers who are paying up front for these figures without knowing what the final product will look like or how long it will take to get them. They went several months without any updates after Series 1 was sent out. I hope things improve and they work out whatever problems they are dealing with, I want to see this line succeed as I like that they are trying to honour and help out the legends of the sport and I really like the scale of these figures. I think they have hit on the right scale, they are more realistic looking then Mattel's elites (too skinny) and Jakks (same body type ).
1. Being used to Mattel and Jazwares figures at Target/Walmart/Ringside, I agree with the price, but it seems all the smaller boutique companies that are independently producing figures all seem to have the prices in this higher range. I would guess this is the cost of manufacturing when you are not a large toy company like Mattel or Jazwares - but that is just speculation on my part. This is the first independent company I ordered from and I am happy with these so far, and as long as the prices don't creep up, I am all in on the Ultras. 2. I would guess that this is a normal slow start, but based on what I have read about others - Zombie Sailor and Chella - it sounds almost like these guys move like lightning, Limited waves makes sense, as it is costly for them to go back and make more, so they want the accurate amount right off the bat, with a small percentage extra for damaged replacements and such. I am sure they are keeping the tooling and I would not be surprised if in a few years they do like a 'best of' wave down the line with the more popular figures previously released reissued, maybe with different accessories and/or packaging. 3. Totally agree with the slow communication, and with today's social media, there doesn't seem to be any excuse for this, in my opinion. I thought they did a good job with the Remcos of revealing one figure at a time in a relatively short timeframe, and they could do the same thing with other lines - and as of today, it looks like that is what they are doing with Ultra Series 2. I suspect the long gap between wave 1 and 2 is due to the sudden signing with TNA, and that very well may be the whole reason we saw a change in pattern. I am hopeful the they get their sh... stuff together and get on a more regular pattern, alternating between Ultras, Remcos, and TNA, ideally getting at least 2 waves of each out per year. If each Ultra and Remco wave has 6 figures in it, and TNA has 4, that is 32 figures per year, and if they announce and show one figure a week, that is 32 weeks of news right there. Add in wave announcements, and preorder date announcements, that is another 12 weeks, bringing the total number of announcements at 44 weeks, and that would certainly be a much better pace than current. So I think I have said the same type of the thing previously, but I firmly believe that the TNA deal really threw a wrench into their plans. I hope it works out, they adapt, and get back on track to having multiple waves a year. We will see. Anxiously awaiting the next reveals and hope the come at a regular pace now.
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Post by micco on Jun 23, 2024 4:40:28 GMT -5
This line had so much promise when it debuted but now it seems to have started to fizzle out?! From what I read, the people behind it are all business executives and former toy industry executives so they should know what they are doing?! Several missteps have been made which is why I am sitting on the sidelines: 1- The figures are priced too high. International collectors have been priced out from the start, I was hoping to pick up a few based on the rumoured list of signings (Rougeau Brothers, Poffo Brothers) but they are way too expensive (over $60 CDN for 1 figure ). It looks like they are trying to market these as high end collectibles yet the value for the price they are charging is not there. They don't come with double jointed knees & elbows (standard articulation in this day and age), no fabric accessories, no extra heads and why are they only giving them 1 extra hand instead of a full set?! 2- They are moving at a snails pace- is this normal for a line like this that operates on a pre-order system and only produces a limited amount of each wave?! It looks they will only be releasing 1 wave per year the way they are going.
3- Their communication has been as poor as Mattel's distribution. They don't need to give updates every day or every week but there should be regular communication with customers who are paying up front for these figures without knowing what the final product will look like or how long it will take to get them. They went several months without any updates after Series 1 was sent out. I hope things improve and they work out whatever problems they are dealing with, I want to see this line succeed as I like that they are trying to honour and help out the legends of the sport and I really like the scale of these figures. I think they have hit on the right scale, they are more realistic looking then Mattel's elites (too skinny) and Jakks (same body type ).
1. Being used to Mattel and Jazwares figures at Target/Walmart/Ringside, I agree with the price, but it seems all the smaller boutique companies that are independently producing figures all seem to have the prices in this higher range. I would guess this is the cost of manufacturing when you are not a large toy company like Mattel or Jazwares - but that is just speculation on my part. This is the first independent company I ordered from and I am happy with these so far, and as long as the prices don't creep up, I am all in on the Ultras. 2. I would guess that this is a normal slow start, but based on what I have read about others - Zombie Sailor and Chella - it sounds almost like these guys move like lightning, Limited waves makes sense, as it is costly for them to go back and make more, so they want the accurate amount right off the bat, with a small percentage extra for damaged replacements and such. I am sure they are keeping the tooling and I would not be surprised if in a few years they do like a 'best of' wave down the line with the more popular figures previously released reissued, maybe with different accessories and/or packaging. 3. Totally agree with the slow communication, and with today's social media, there doesn't seem to be any excuse for this, in my opinion. I thought they did a good job with the Remcos of revealing one figure at a time in a relatively short timeframe, and they could do the same thing with other lines - and as of today, it looks like that is what they are doing with Ultra Series 2. I suspect the long gap between wave 1 and 2 is due to the sudden signing with TNA, and that very well may be the whole reason we saw a change in pattern. I am hopeful the they get their sh... stuff together and get on a more regular pattern, alternating between Ultras, Remcos, and TNA, ideally getting at least 2 waves of each out per year. If each Ultra and Remco wave has 6 figures in it, and TNA has 4, that is 32 figures per year, and if they announce and show one figure a week, that is 32 weeks of news right there. Add in wave announcements, and preorder date announcements, that is another 12 weeks, bringing the total number of announcements at 44 weeks, and that would certainly be a much better pace than current. So I think I have said the same type of the thing previously, but I firmly believe that the TNA deal really threw a wrench into their plans. I hope it works out, they adapt, and get back on track to having multiple waves a year. We will see. Anxiously awaiting the next reveals and hope the come at a regular pace now. We get less communication from Mattel when we preorder the made to order figures. I don’t know how we’ve gotten so spoiled as to think we are entitled to being kept in the loop with the production of a figure. Especially with a company that has in the past, met its deadlines. If it’s a lack of faith in the company then I’d advise not ordering from them at all.
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Post by micco on Jun 23, 2024 4:41:56 GMT -5
I have a sneaking suspicion that ultras with have interchangeable heads now like the tna figures do. And cost the same as them.
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Post by heelturn on Jun 23, 2024 7:19:01 GMT -5
I have a sneaking suspicion that ultras with have interchangeable heads now like the tna figures do. And cost the same as them. Wahoo's description says "two interchangeable heads". That's good news!
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Post by lankylefty17 on Jun 23, 2024 12:54:05 GMT -5
We get less communication from Mattel when we preorder the made to order figures. I don’t know how we’ve gotten so spoiled as to think we are entitled to being kept in the loop with the production of a figure. Especially with a company that has in the past, met its deadlines. If it’s a lack of faith in the company then I’d advise not ordering from them at all.
I don't know about "met its deadlines". The ultra series 1 was delayed twice. The Matt/Brian two pack has been delayed (and still isnt out). Remco's were listed as Q3 then pushed to Q4 (after being a year late from their original announcement). They've literally never met a deadline they've made publicly available. I love what Powertown is doing and I'm excited for the upcoming lines but until they start hitting on the dates they announce I think people have a right to voice concern.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jun 23, 2024 16:11:56 GMT -5
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Post by lankylefty17 on Jun 23, 2024 17:00:26 GMT -5
Now thats pretty tempting
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Post by captncharisma19 on Jun 23, 2024 17:47:09 GMT -5
This series is so good! With NWA belt too
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Post by biggerbetterbadder on Jun 23, 2024 19:44:13 GMT -5
The Jack Brisco looks amazing. This next set plus shipping will cost me close to $500 Canadian I’d guess. They are so darn expensive! But I think I will still have to get them all.
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Post by azraelms on Jun 23, 2024 20:23:57 GMT -5
2 for 2 (or 3 for 3 based on the blurry Kamala pic from a while back) for this series too, looks like I will order two full sets of these. The first wave was $45 with discount codes for these, fully expecting these to be $50 and hope they have discount codes again.
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Post by Scotty T. Ritz on Jun 23, 2024 20:43:19 GMT -5
The Jack Brisco looks amazing. This next set plus shipping will cost me close to $500 Canadian I’d guess. They are so darn expensive! But I think I will still have to get them all. 100% agree - initially I was just going to look at Madusa, Kamala and potentially Junkyard Dog - but these renders (and the previous great work that was Series 1) are really tempting. Jack Brisco was a 50/50 to me but that looks like an incredible figure there. Shipping to Aus hurts the hip pocket for me too!!
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jun 23, 2024 20:56:03 GMT -5
Couldn’t remember what the blurry pic had shown. Here it is for anyone else struggling to remember:
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Post by captncharisma19 on Jun 23, 2024 21:04:19 GMT -5
Couldn’t remember what the blurry pic had shown. Here it is for anyone else struggling to remember: it's hard to tell, but is this the Memphis debut look - with the nose ring etc
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Post by D.B.K. on Jun 24, 2024 0:50:36 GMT -5
In all honesty I love these figures more than mattels
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Post by oldschoolfool on Jun 24, 2024 6:53:26 GMT -5
Couldn’t remember what the blurry pic had shown. Here it is for anyone else struggling to remember: it's hard to tell, but is this the Memphis debut look - with the nose ring etc I wondered the same thing so maybe there's something to that. Since these guys are now coming with 2 heads maybe he'll have 2 heads with slightly different looks.
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Post by micco on Jun 24, 2024 7:08:42 GMT -5
We get less communication from Mattel when we preorder the made to order figures. I don’t know how we’ve gotten so spoiled as to think we are entitled to being kept in the loop with the production of a figure. Especially with a company that has in the past, met its deadlines. If it’s a lack of faith in the company then I’d advise not ordering from them at all. I don't know about "met its deadlines". The ultra series 1 was delayed twice. The Matt/Brian two pack has been delayed (and still isnt out). Remco's were listed as Q3 then pushed to Q4 (after being a year late from their original announcement). They've literally never met a deadline they've made publicly available. I love what Powertown is doing and I'm excited for the upcoming lines but until they start hitting on the dates they announce I think people have a right to voice concern.
the remcos just went on sale recently. They’re nowhere close to having been supposed to be out so it’s unfair to say that they haven’t met that deadline. It hasnt even been a year yet for the major two pack so I’m reserving judgement on that too. Ultras 1 wasn’t off by much as far as the date given at the time of the pre order. I’m personally satisfied with their timing
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Post by oldschoolfool on Jun 24, 2024 11:14:14 GMT -5
I don't know about "met its deadlines". The ultra series 1 was delayed twice. The Matt/Brian two pack has been delayed (and still isnt out). Remco's were listed as Q3 then pushed to Q4 (after being a year late from their original announcement). They've literally never met a deadline they've made publicly available. I love what Powertown is doing and I'm excited for the upcoming lines but until they start hitting on the dates they announce I think people have a right to voice concern.
the remcos just went on sale recently. They’re nowhere close to having been supposed to be out so it’s unfair to say that they haven’t met that deadline. It hasnt even been a year yet for the major two pack so I’m reserving judgement on that too. Ultras 1 wasn’t off by much as far as the date given at the time of the pre order. I’m personally satisfied with their timing I think he means the Remco stuff was announced early last year with the lineup revealed summer of last year yet preorders didn't happen until March of this year. So yeah there is a large gap of time between the initial announcement and preorders going up. But, imo, they're not "on the clock" until the preorder starts and they start accepting money for product.
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Post by micco on Jun 24, 2024 15:44:56 GMT -5
the remcos just went on sale recently. They’re nowhere close to having been supposed to be out so it’s unfair to say that they haven’t met that deadline. It hasnt even been a year yet for the major two pack so I’m reserving judgement on that too. Ultras 1 wasn’t off by much as far as the date given at the time of the pre order. I’m personally satisfied with their timing I think he means the Remco stuff was announced early last year with the lineup revealed summer of last year yet preorders didn't happen until March of this year. So yeah there is a large gap of time between the initial announcement and preorders going up. But, imo, they're not "on the clock" until the preorder starts and they start accepting money for product. Exactly. Thats when the clock starts. Also, they didn’t declare an approximate ship date when they make the announcement. They provide that when they start taking PO’s
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jun 24, 2024 16:21:23 GMT -5
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