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Post by cableV on Apr 11, 2021 22:30:36 GMT -5
Going into this years WrestleMania, all I really wanted to see was a good match between Sasha & Bianca, Bliss do something cool & Roman retain. I got all of that and a bunch a good action/matches underneath. Add in NXT Takeover, and I really enjoyed this years WrestleMania week.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 11, 2021 22:31:40 GMT -5
Drew McIntrye is your answer
Until Vince can't resist going Superface with Drew and he starts catching go-away heat just like Rollins and Reigns and Cena Point:
Drew McIntrye is your answer
Edited that in. And I wouldn't count my eggs, though. This is Vince we're talking about. Does he make good calls? Sure. But he's also the type to keep a title on someone, or keep pushing them, just out of pure spite and venom. Push Roman into the 1 1/2+ mark as champ, shatter everyone's records except Hogan and Bruno. Will he? Prolly not. Is Vince the type to do that? Oh God, yeah. Point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 22:31:43 GMT -5
Awesome main events for both nights. Really wanted Edge to win but the match delivered so I’m not upset. A lot of title changes over the two nights and I’m actually interested to see where Rhea goes now. Would they do Becky vs Rhea this soon or save it for SummerSlam? Or do Charlotte vs Rhea 2?
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Post by Angusdacat on Apr 11, 2021 22:31:56 GMT -5
pretty excellent match, and now Roman is stronger than ever who is the right guy to take him down? Keith Lee in Texas. Big E or Keith Lee would be my picks for sure. I'd love for Cesaro to come close tho
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Post by marino13 on Apr 11, 2021 22:32:09 GMT -5
Good stuff.
Wish they didn't do the exact same intro they did last night.
Bray vs Orton had all the theatrics. Some cool looking sh*t. Match was okay.
WWE did something I never thought anyone could do. They got me invested in a Natalya & Tamina match. Who knew?
Riddle/Sheamus have amazing chemistry.
Happy for Apollo & E. Big fan of both, so I'm glad they got their moment.
Sami vs Owens was as good as expected. Wouldn't have minded them getting a few more minutes. Logan Paul sold the Stunner well.
Rhea vs Asuka was good. Tad long IMO. Big fan of both, so I didn't care who won.
Bella thing happened.
Main Event was great. I didn't care who won, but I think they made the right call. Roman is too hot to take a step back now.
Overall, I really enjoyed WM this year. I don't need to rank em, or argue over it, just know I enjoyed it.
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Post by cordless2016 on Apr 11, 2021 22:33:47 GMT -5
Drew McIntrye is your answer
Edited that in. And I wouldn't count my eggs, though. This is Vince we're talking about. Does he make good calls? Sure. But he's also the type to keep a title on someone, or keep pushing them, just out of pure spite and venom. Push Roman into the 1 1/2+ mark as champ, shatter everyone's records except Hogan and Bruno. Will he? Prolly not. Is Vince the type to do that? Oh God, yeah. Rumor was back in 2018 when he took the title off of Brock that Vince wanted to force a 1.5+ year title run with Roman before his health derailed that. Don’t put it past Vince to implement that plan now. And in another year, logic says Drew should beat him, but this is Vince, so don’t be shocked if Roman loses the belt while visiting Suplex city.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Apr 11, 2021 22:34:51 GMT -5
What a fantastic triple threat and show overall.
I think the main event winner was the wrong call but it's not a huge deal because all 3 guys are strong enough to carry the win. My personal opinion is simply that many years from now it would have been a much more memorable moment to watch back on Edge winning the big one at WM 10 years to the day of his retirement. I understand the logic of giving the heat to a younger guy, but that heat will always follow Roman anyway as he will be on the top of the card for years to come.
The Edge story is just so unique and rare that I think it should have been paid off rather than used as another chance to give a rub to Reigns when he ultimately doesn't need it.
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on Apr 11, 2021 22:34:54 GMT -5
I really hope Vince and company don't screw this up and end Reigns title run anytime soon.Let his role with it until next year in Dallas.He's got some talent as is to work with on the Blue Brand in Cesaro,Big E,a returning Jimmy Uso,Rey Mysterio...ect and you could and more then likely will have a few NXT call ups this year and another brand shake up.
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Post by Chip on Apr 11, 2021 22:35:50 GMT -5
look i love Cesaro as much as anyone, i wish that W over Seth would lead to something bigger for him, im also 100% on board the idea that the guy has been criminally underused and deserves a world title run more than just about anyone in the business right now
but he's not getting ANYWHERE near the belt while Vince has guys like Roman and Lashley holding them
they are gonna build Cesaro up to a filler Universal title match with Roman at a throwaway PPV just so its not Roman v Edge 3 or 4 times in a row....and then we will never hear from Cesaro again because Roman will obliterate him. Vince collects his money, gives Cesaro some extra cash for dinner and it's back to mid card tag team purgatory for the rest of his career, while Edge gets the redemption story of being the one to take down Roman
if I'm wrong? i'll happily eat my words with a side of ranch.
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on Apr 11, 2021 22:37:11 GMT -5
Edited that in. And I wouldn't count my eggs, though. This is Vince we're talking about. Does he make good calls? Sure. But he's also the type to keep a title on someone, or keep pushing them, just out of pure spite and venom. Push Roman into the 1 1/2+ mark as champ, shatter everyone's records except Hogan and Bruno. Will he? Prolly not. Is Vince the type to do that? Oh God, yeah. Rumor was back in 2018 when he took the title off of Brock that Vince wanted to force a 1.5+ year title run with Roman before his health derailed that. Don’t put it past Vince to implement that plan now. And in another year, logic says Drew should beat him, but this is Vince, so don’t be shocked if Roman loses the belt while visiting Suplex city.
The plans should be Reigns/McIntrye & Lashley/Brock as the two title bouts in Dallas.You would have the two biggest active stars going at it and then a "Dream Match" for a lot of fans that's been more then fifteen years in the making.
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Post by Evil Abed on Apr 11, 2021 22:37:36 GMT -5
Night two was alright. Once again the Womens tag match was the only thing I could’ve cared less for (major fix needed for those titles, Nia and Shayna need to move on but they also need to establish actual teams. Reform IIconics, give Riott Squad a legit push, etc... the whole division is makeshift teams with the exception of Riott Squad).
Orton/Fiend was ok more so because of the entrances (I f**king hate when they leave that stupid lighting on for the whole match) hoping this doesn’t mean a split for Fiend/Alexa that would be a crime. Big E/Crews was better than I expected, Crews actually semi has my interest for the first time in his career. Zayn/Owens was great, wonder where those two go from here now though. Riddle/Sheamus was MOTN for me, slight botch on the top rope White Noise but otherwise a solid hard hitting match. Asuka/Ripley was ok. Nothing spectacular but nothing awful either. Hard to compete with Sasha/Bianca from Night 1. Bayley segment was dumb (poor Bayley) imagine expecting Becky to appear and you get the Bellas, hard to imagine a bigger recent letdown of epic proportions. Reigns/Bryan/Edge was good, I feel like it could have used a better ending though. Right guy won however, Reigns is on another level right now and Edge/Bryan don’t need a title run at this point.
I did have more fun during Night 1 however, and thats ultimately what watching WWE is supposed to do.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 11, 2021 22:38:01 GMT -5
Edited that in. And I wouldn't count my eggs, though. This is Vince we're talking about. Does he make good calls? Sure. But he's also the type to keep a title on someone, or keep pushing them, just out of pure spite and venom. Push Roman into the 1 1/2+ mark as champ, shatter everyone's records except Hogan and Bruno. Will he? Prolly not. Is Vince the type to do that? Oh God, yeah. Rumor was back in 2018 when he took the title off of Brock that Vince wanted to force a 1.5+ year title run with Roman before his health derailed that. Don’t put it past Vince to implement that plan now. And in another year, logic says Drew should beat him, but this is Vince, so don’t be shocked if Roman loses the belt while visiting Suplex city. I didn't imagine that scenario could get any worse. Then you said Bork. .
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Post by Chip on Apr 11, 2021 22:39:11 GMT -5
What a fantastic triple threat and show overall. I think the main event winner was the wrong call but it's not a huge deal because all 3 guys are strong enough to carry the win. My personal opinion is simply that many years from now it would have been a much more memorable moment to watch back on Edge winning the big one at WM 10 years to the day of his retirement. I understand the logic of giving the heat to a younger guy, but that heat will always follow Roman anyway as he will be on the top of the card for years to come. The Edge story is just so unique and rare that I think it should have been paid off rather than used as another chance to give a rub to Reigns when he ultimately doesn't need it. thats my biggest thing about this Wrestlemania, now both nights included. nothing really happened that i can say in 5 years from now i'll want to go back and watch again because it was that damn good. a lot of it had to do with the endings of the matches. wrestling is about stories, and you always remember the endings. Edge could have won tonight, telling that amazing story, with a much more exciting ending, he keeps the belt for a couple months fighting off Bryan and maybe Jey. Then Roman destroys him taking it back, and holds it until Mania next year. Just would have been WAY more memorable than "Reigns must pose"
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on Apr 11, 2021 22:39:39 GMT -5
look i love Cesaro as much as anyone, i wish that W over Seth would lead to something bigger for him, im also 100% on board the idea that the guy has been criminally underused and deserves a world title run more than just about anyone in the business right now but he's not getting ANYWHERE near the belt while Vince has guys like Roman and Lashley holding them they are gonna build Cesaro up to a filler Universal title match with Roman at a throwaway PPV just so its not Roman v Edge 3 or 4 times in a row....and then we will never hear from Cesaro again because Roman will obliterate him. Vince collects his money, gives Cesaro some extra cash for dinner and it's back to mid card tag team purgatory for the rest of his career, while Edge gets the redemption story of being the one to take down Roman if I'm wrong? i'll happily eat my words with a side of ranch.
Really don't see Edge winning a world title again and at 47.Think he'll settle into more of the HBK return run kind of role where he might win a tag team title or mid card title again and that's it.Think he's more interested in giving back to the younger talents and working with them while give the fans some dream bouts against the likes of Bryan,Styles,Rollins...ect that being the world champion.
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Post by Chip on Apr 11, 2021 22:40:55 GMT -5
pretty sure its a given we're getting Brock v Lashley at Mania next year, and Roman vs Rock....both for their respective world titles.....the question is, who closes "night 1"....and will all the weirdos be triggered than the women aren't main eventing?
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Post by Chip on Apr 11, 2021 22:42:49 GMT -5
look i love Cesaro as much as anyone, i wish that W over Seth would lead to something bigger for him, im also 100% on board the idea that the guy has been criminally underused and deserves a world title run more than just about anyone in the business right now but he's not getting ANYWHERE near the belt while Vince has guys like Roman and Lashley holding them they are gonna build Cesaro up to a filler Universal title match with Roman at a throwaway PPV just so its not Roman v Edge 3 or 4 times in a row....and then we will never hear from Cesaro again because Roman will obliterate him. Vince collects his money, gives Cesaro some extra cash for dinner and it's back to mid card tag team purgatory for the rest of his career, while Edge gets the redemption story of being the one to take down Roman if I'm wrong? i'll happily eat my words with a side of ranch. Really don't see Edge winning a world title again and at 47.Think he'll settle into more of the HBK return run kind of role where he might win a tag team title or mid card title again and that's it.Think he's more interested in giving back to the younger talents and working with them while give the fans some dream bouts against the likes of Bryan,Styles,Rollins...ect that being the world champion.
i dunno...i mean he came back after 10 years....i dont think it was just to "put people over" they certainly aren't building anyone else up to take the belt off Roman any time soon, and nobody on the roster has enough cred anyway since they've set the bar so high. Maybe Bryan, but still, if they didn't pull the trigger on Bryan tonight I don't see him getting another world title run before he hangs it up.
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on Apr 11, 2021 22:43:25 GMT -5
What a fantastic triple threat and show overall. I think the main event winner was the wrong call but it's not a huge deal because all 3 guys are strong enough to carry the win. My personal opinion is simply that many years from now it would have been a much more memorable moment to watch back on Edge winning the big one at WM 10 years to the day of his retirement. I understand the logic of giving the heat to a younger guy, but that heat will always follow Roman anyway as he will be on the top of the card for years to come. The Edge story is just so unique and rare that I think it should have been paid off rather than used as another chance to give a rub to Reigns when he ultimately doesn't need it. thats my biggest thing about this Wrestlemania, now both nights included. nothing really happened that i can say in 5 years from now i'll want to go back and watch again because it was that damn good. a lot of it had to do with the endings of the matches. wrestling is about stories, and you always remember the endings. Edge could have won tonight, telling that amazing story, with a much more exciting ending, he keeps the belt for a couple months fighting off Bryan and maybe Jey. Then Roman destroys him taking it back, and holds it until Mania next year. Just would have been WAY more memorable than "Reigns must pose"
Reigns need the win and a long title reign much more then Edge or Bryan,same went for the Lashley/McIntrye match up.Bryan is on the back nine of his career just like Edge and both got one last shot in a Wrestlemania main event.Rumors around for a while is that Bryan may indeed retire by the end of the year and focus more on his family and a backstage role while Edge is still a part timer and at 47 doesn't need nor do I think wants another World Title win and run.
You keep build this heel Reigns and get more and more heat and steam behind him until the fanbase turns full on him and are dying to see him finally lose.
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Post by FLUX on Apr 11, 2021 22:43:40 GMT -5
It's 2021 and y'all still hating on Roman Reigns?
Couldn't be me.
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Post by Evil Abed on Apr 11, 2021 22:44:27 GMT -5
Also on a side note, I hope they find a way to continue the two night Wrestlemania with shorter run times. It’s way more enjoyable to sit through a 3-4 hr show on two nights than be completely drained by a 7-8 hour show all in one night. Plus I feel like it gives more opportunities for spotlighting more stars on each night. (Cue the “first night isn’t really a main event” fight)
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Apr 11, 2021 22:45:46 GMT -5
pretty sure its a given we're getting Brock v Lashley at Mania next year, and Roman vs Rock....both for their respective world titles.....the question is, who closes "night 1"....and will all the weirdos be triggered than the women aren't main eventing? If Roman/Rock happens, it'll be at the Mania after next in Hollywood.
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