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Feb 18, 2021 15:16:15 GMT -5 Bruce Banner said:

Feb 18, 2021 14:51:42 GMT -5 @mavsfan41 said:

And the minute they lower the price for RSC then the big retailers will demand the same price break, and at that point the figures will immediately become less detailed and have less articulation (look at the $10 higher price point of WWE Ultimate Editions).

Either Ringside pays more than Walmart or they’re just straight price gouging. Either way ringside seems to be the majority of the sales since they are one of the hardest things to find in store so I see a win win situation if jazwares was to use ringside as the main source of getting the figures the same price as retail with only having to pay shipping. I have yet to see one on the shelf due to no shipment, scalpers, or employees taking the case before it reaches the shelves.

I doubt the Walmart and Target (as they carry the line now too) employees are taking the cases before they hit shelves. I think it’s simply a case of stores not getting in enough product to fulfill the demand.

And of course Ringside is the majority of the sales since they order x amount of cases, and they don’t have to ship them to multiple locations unlike the two large retailers do.

You’re still missing my point too. If Jazwares lowered the price that much then the figures would definitely lose articulation and deco. They can’t realistically offer the product to Ringside at the same price point as they do Walmart or Target.

I don’t see anyone complaining about WWE Elites, and making the same (in my opinion silly) argument that Mattel should cut Ringside a break so Elites and Ultimate Editions only cost the same as retail.

[Bruce Banner]

Feb 18, 2021 15:21:58 GMT -5 @mavsfan41 said:

Feb 18, 2021 15:16:15 GMT -5 Bruce Banner said:

Either Ringside pays more than Walmart or they’re just straight price gouging. Either way ringside seems to be the majority of the sales since they are one of the hardest things to find in store so I see a win win situation if jazwares was to use ringside as the main source of getting the figures the same price as retail with only having to pay shipping. I have yet to see one on the shelf due to no shipment, scalpers, or employees taking the case before it reaches the shelves.

I doubt the Walmart and Target (as they carry the line now too) employees are taking the cases before they hit shelves. I think it’s simply a case of stores not getting in enough product to fulfill the demand.

And of course Ringside is the majority of the sales since they order x amount of cases, and they don’t have to ship them to multiple locations unlike the two large retailers do.

You’re still missing my point too. If Jazwares lowered the price that much then the figures would definitely lose articulation and deco. They can’t realistically offer the product to Ringside at the same price point as they do Walmart or Target.

I don’t see anyone complaining about WWE Elites, and making the same (in my opinion silly) argument that Mattel should cut Ringside a break so Elites and Ultimate Editions only cost the same as retail.

Trust me I get your point 100% but you’re telling me that ringsides $8 up charge can makes or break jazwares/Mattel’s quality and accessories?

I’m not saying the figures themselves need to be cheaper at retail but Jazwares give ringside the figures at cost of what Walmart and target pays. Ringside could do a whole lot more sales than both retailers combined. Especially if they had the product in bulk. I’ve seen more people get figures from ringside rather than retailers especially since toys r us closed down and now the availability of having things shipped to your home.

At the end of the day all across the country Walmart’s and targets seem to only be getting 1-3 cases at a time (that goes for mattel too). By the time they get put out they’re already gone whether it’s employees or scalpers or the people who know they have to get up before the sun even rises in hopes to beat the flippers and you as the collector is left to pay the extra $5-$10 plus shipping per figure on eBay or your local comic shop.

I love ringside for the convenience and quality shipping so I don’t want to come off like I’m bashing ringside or anyone’s opinions at all just venting I guess.

[Only1TH2]

Yeah what’s $4 compared to endless trips to Walmart, target, etc
The gas adds up immediately. Ringside FTW.

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Feb 18, 2021 17:09:45 GMT -5 Bruce Banner said:

Feb 18, 2021 15:21:58 GMT -5 @mavsfan41 said:

I doubt the Walmart and Target (as they carry the line now too) employees are taking the cases before they hit shelves. I think it’s simply a case of stores not getting in enough product to fulfill the demand.

And of course Ringside is the majority of the sales since they order x amount of cases, and they don’t have to ship them to multiple locations unlike the two large retailers do.

You’re still missing my point too. If Jazwares lowered the price that much then the figures would definitely lose articulation and deco. They can’t realistically offer the product to Ringside at the same price point as they do Walmart or Target.

I don’t see anyone complaining about WWE Elites, and making the same (in my opinion silly) argument that Mattel should cut Ringside a break so Elites and Ultimate Editions only cost the same as retail.

Trust me I get your point 100% but you’re telling me that ringsides $8 up charge can makes or break jazwares/Mattel’s quality and accessories?

I’m not saying the figures themselves need to be cheaper at retail but Jazwares give ringside the figures at cost of what Walmart and target pays. Ringside could do a whole lot more sales than both retailers combined. Especially if they had the product in bulk. I’ve seen more people get figures from ringside rather than retailers especially since toys r us closed down and now the availability of having things shipped to your home.

At the end of the day all across the country Walmart’s and targets seem to only be getting 1-3 cases at a time (that goes for mattel too). By the time they get put out they’re already gone whether it’s employees or scalpers or the people who know they have to get up before the sun even rises in hopes to beat the flippers and you as the collector is left to pay the extra $5-$10 plus shipping per figure on eBay or your local comic shop.

I love ringside for the convenience and quality shipping so I don’t want to come off like I’m bashing ringside or anyone’s opinions at all just venting I guess.

No I’m not saying the $8 makes or breaks it. I’m saying (and this is all in theory as I have no clue what they charge retailers for a case) if they offered Ringside a case of figures for let’s say $60 so they could sell the case for $120 (as you were asking for since you want ringsides prices to match retail) then the big retailers would have a fit, and demand they only pay $40 for a case of figures.

So if that were to occur you’re telling me that Jazwares would still be making enough of a profit to continue with the same amount of deco and accessories they’re presently offering? I don’t see any way that could happen.

Also as someone that works at one of those large retailers I can safely say at least at the location I work at that employees aren’t buying up the figures before they hit the shelves. My store got in one case of series two, and I bought Hangman Page and MJF myself. But that was once they were on the shelf, and someone else had bought Dustin and Fenix. The only reason I know those two had sold was the fact that Mox, Pentagon, and the two I bought were on the shelf, and I asked the guy that stocks toys if the case had a chase figure as he’s always telling me when we have Mattel chases too.

[Bruce Banner]

Feb 18, 2021 17:42:39 GMT -5 @mavsfan41 said:

Feb 18, 2021 17:09:45 GMT -5 Bruce Banner said:

Trust me I get your point 100% but you’re telling me that ringsides $8 up charge can makes or break jazwares/Mattel’s quality and accessories?

I’m not saying the figures themselves need to be cheaper at retail but Jazwares give ringside the figures at cost of what Walmart and target pays. Ringside could do a whole lot more sales than both retailers combined. Especially if they had the product in bulk. I’ve seen more people get figures from ringside rather than retailers especially since toys r us closed down and now the availability of having things shipped to your home.

At the end of the day all across the country Walmart’s and targets seem to only be getting 1-3 cases at a time (that goes for mattel too). By the time they get put out they’re already gone whether it’s employees or scalpers or the people who know they have to get up before the sun even rises in hopes to beat the flippers and you as the collector is left to pay the extra $5-$10 plus shipping per figure on eBay or your local comic shop.

I love ringside for the convenience and quality shipping so I don’t want to come off like I’m bashing ringside or anyone’s opinions at all just venting I guess.

No I’m not saying the $8 makes or breaks it. I’m saying (and this is all in theory as I have no clue what they charge retailers for a case) if they offered Ringside a case of figures for let’s say $60 so they could sell the case for $120 (as you were asking for since you want ringsides prices to match retail) then the big retailers would have a fit, and demand they only pay $40 for a case of figures.

So if that were to occur you’re telling me that Jazwares would still be making enough of a profit to continue with the same amount of deco and accessories they’re presently offering? I don’t see any way that could happen.

Also as someone that works at one of those large retailers I can safely say at least at the location I work at that employees aren’t buying up the figures before they hit the shelves. My store got in one case of series two, and I bought Hangman Page and MJF myself. But that was once they were on the shelf, and someone else had bought Dustin and Fenix. The only reason I know those two had sold was the fact that Mox, Pentagon, and the two I bought were on the shelf, and I asked the guy that stocks toys if the case had a chase figure as he’s always telling me when we have Mattel chases too.

I totally get what you’re saying. That damn corporate greed lol but I’ve had 2 situations where I know for a fact someone held a whole case for themselves and purchased them on break and another time where the employee had his wife/gf come pick up a case when she dropped him off to work. I know it’s not all locations but doesn’t mean its not happening

[shanieomaniac]

Hey, you guys realize that RSC isn't just selling figures, they're selling a service, right?

As in, they package your figures with great care, give you the chance to get early pickings on them, and basically act as a one stop shop for all your wrestling figure needs.

There's more to the cost of figures than just the plastic itself. How many times have you guys ordered figures from other stores for less money, and wound up with smashed packages? How many times have you pre-ordered figures from walmart or target, only to never get them? Heck, how many times have you tried to go to a store and find the figures only for them to be sold out, nowhere to be found?

There's more to commerce than simply cost of product. RSC offers us a service that means you get your figures, you get them early, and you get them minty. Sure, they could probably charge less money for the figures, but then you'd be running into the same issues that you see with other retailers. Running a business like RSC involves putting care into your work, something stores like Walmart and Target really lack. If you want to find figures cheaper with no real thought or care put into how, when, or if you receive them? Feel free to order elsewhere. But if you want the best wrestling figure experience, go with Ringside and realize that an 8 dollar markup to cover their business costs isn't remotely in the same category as someone who buys a 20 dollar figure at Walmart, then turns around and sells it for 60-80 dollars on secondary.

[TKO Propagandist]

More figs for all of us then.

[kwagmyr]

Also when the supply increases and the demand dies down a little there won't be as much scalping. The hype is really fueling itself at the moment. One wonders if they're making more money off of the buzz of a limited product than they might if there were more available at retail? I dunno, I'd probably have the whole line if I could get them at retail but I have yet to see AEW figure one on a shelf in my area so I've been forced into cherry picking. I'm guessing there are other people who would be buying more if they could. Interesting to see what happens.