Mclovin
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Post by Mclovin on Feb 2, 2021 14:58:57 GMT -5
I turned 16 about three weeks before the covid lockdowns started, anyone who supports any of this "safety" bullsh*t can go f*ck themselves. I just can't get a f*cking job. Name a fast food place, I've applied there. I even got a couple interviews. Everyone is wayyy understaffed but refuse to hire anyone.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Feb 2, 2021 15:14:49 GMT -5
I turned 16 about three weeks before the covid lockdowns started, anyone who supports any of this "safety" bullsh*t can go f*ck themselves. I just can't get a f*cking job. Name a fast food place, I've applied there. I even got a couple interviews. Everyone is wayyy understaffed but refuse to hire anyone. It isn't because of covid that I brought this up but I can understand being frustrated. If you're 16 it's tough to get a shot at places with little to no experience. All I can say is keep at it, it's no different at my age too. Be persistent, polite, punctual, ask for feedback where possible and go outside of your comfort zone. One thing you could do is reach out to businesses that interest you, friends or parents friends, that sort of thing. Maybe volunteer somewhere for a bit that may hire you on eventually. Take ownership of the process.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 2, 2021 15:46:44 GMT -5
Doesn't work for everyone, or interest everyone unfortunately. sure it does, just have to hustle. also, college was the worst decision of my life. Dont go to college, go into a trade or trade school were most almost have a 100% chance at job security. Totally agree. Unless you want to become a doctor, lawyer or schoolteacher, going to college is completely useless.
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Feb 2, 2021 15:47:55 GMT -5
sure it does, just have to hustle. also, college was the worst decision of my life. Dont go to college, go into a trade or trade school were most almost have a 100% chance at job security. Totally agree. Unless you want to become a doctor, lawyer or schoolteacher, going to college is completely useless. I tell every college age person i meet this exact thing. Dont do it. its not worth it, and will screw up the rest of your life.
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Post by Valbroski on Feb 2, 2021 16:15:35 GMT -5
I turned 16 about three weeks before the covid lockdowns started, anyone who supports any of this "safety" bullsh*t can go f*ck themselves. I just can't get a f*cking job. Name a fast food place, I've applied there. I even got a couple interviews. Everyone is wayyy understaffed but refuse to hire anyone. It is hard getting a job at that age. I applied to a ton of places when I was 15/16 but couldn’t get a job until I was 18. For my second job when I was 19, I applied to over 100 places before getting an interview.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Feb 2, 2021 16:44:18 GMT -5
I turned 16 about three weeks before the covid lockdowns started, anyone who supports any of this "safety" bullsh*t can go f*ck themselves. I just can't get a f*cking job. Name a fast food place, I've applied there. I even got a couple interviews. Everyone is wayyy understaffed but refuse to hire anyone. It’s hard man; I got lucky but I got rejected plenty of times at that age
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Mclovin
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Post by Mclovin on Feb 2, 2021 18:08:37 GMT -5
sure it does, just have to hustle. also, college was the worst decision of my life. Dont go to college, go into a trade or trade school were most almost have a 100% chance at job security. Totally agree. Unless you want to become a doctor, lawyer or schoolteacher, going to college is completely useless. And don't go into $100,000 in debt to get a major in gender studies or liberal arts, that's a path straight to failure.
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Post by Mclovin on Feb 2, 2021 18:10:47 GMT -5
I turned 16 about three weeks before the covid lockdowns started, anyone who supports any of this "safety" bullsh*t can go f*ck themselves. I just can't get a f*cking job. Name a fast food place, I've applied there. I even got a couple interviews. Everyone is wayyy understaffed but refuse to hire anyone. It isn't because of covid that I brought this up but I can understand being frustrated. If you're 16 it's tough to get a shot at places with little to no experience. All I can say is keep at it, it's no different at my age too. Be persistent, polite, punctual, ask for feedback where possible and go outside of your comfort zone. One thing you could do is reach out to businesses that interest you, friends or parents friends, that sort of thing. Maybe volunteer somewhere for a bit that may hire you on eventually. Take ownership of the process. I'm trying to get a job to afford wrestling school, but even Pizza Hut won't hire me. They got one f*cking employee and are failing because of it but won't hire anyone else. I live in a place where all the fast food joints are tax write-offs.
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 2, 2021 20:08:19 GMT -5
I have a BA and my struggle isn't finding a job, but it's finding a job where I can be promoted and potentially have a career in the long run. I wouldn't want to work at a store as just as an associate, I need a bit more than that.
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 2, 2021 23:22:40 GMT -5
The key for me was to stop thinking about working for a big company, and find something I can build upon to make bigger. 7 years ago I was hired by a small, privately owned photo studio and we are doing great. It’s a small, but loyal team that’s focused on getting bigger and better. If I would of went to a big business, I probably would just be a spoke on the wheel, instead of having the platform to create and be heard.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Feb 2, 2021 23:33:53 GMT -5
Totally agree. Unless you want to become a doctor, lawyer or schoolteacher, going to college is completely useless. I tell every college age person i meet this exact thing. Dont do it. its not worth it, and will screw up the rest of your life. I agree and disagree, its a debate in itself but its a good place to go to figure things out and gain perspective. University allows for certain things, develop certain skills etc. that can benefit you in certain areas, but also hold you back in others. It all depends on your path and interests. I think a lot of it comes down to attitude and what you produce. No company is going to want you unless you produce results or value, or find solutions for the problems they're facing. You can have all the degrees in the world and it won't teach you that, you can have all the jobs in the world, it'll mean nothing if you can't contribute.
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Post by The Lion's Den on Feb 2, 2021 23:36:22 GMT -5
The key for me was to stop thinking about working for a big company, and find something I can build upon to make bigger. 7 years ago I was hired by a small, privately owned photo studio and we are doing great. It’s a small, but loyal team that’s focused on getting bigger and better. If I would of went to a big business, I probably would just be a spoke on the wheel, instead of having the platform to create and be heard. You know, someone I have been talking to for some guidance said the same thing. She had the chance to go to a big company and dominate with a big title and paycheck, but took something in a smaller firm for less and found that she was more fulfilled than any role she ever had. I think you have a good perspective to consider; focus on that environment you want to be in and the rest could fall into place.
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 3, 2021 0:11:06 GMT -5
It’s a full time job to look for a job.
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Post by Mclovin on Feb 3, 2021 1:53:11 GMT -5
I just want to get a job to afford wrestling school but this sh*t is ridiculous. I'm tired of life and I ain't even a legal adult yet.
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Post by GBGav on Feb 3, 2021 7:19:59 GMT -5
Don't underestimate personal skills and hobbies. I am where I am now simply because it all leads back to creating graphics on the design section of this forum more than 15 years ago. I had using photoshop and creating graphics on my CV under hobbies and that alone got the attention of a career advisor who knew a place where they were after skills like that. Despite never working in that sector before I had years of private experience. At that job I became friends with someone who eventually left and not long after, headhunted me to his new place. Never needed an interview. Just walked right in on his recommendation. So it can be about who you know too.
Also, I eventually became part of the hiring process at that first job and I would screen candidates to pass along. We preferred people who had relevant experience in Photoshop and were creative over people who had retail experience because dealing with customers can be taught easily. I was responsible for strongly advising that we hired someone because they had creativity and the right attitude despite never working before. She turned out to be an amazing employee.
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Post by bababooey on Feb 3, 2021 10:18:34 GMT -5
The whole college debate is an interesting one. I wouldn’t go around telling people college is a waste and only a negative. College has been a major positive for me personally, and I have no student debt or anything like that. I didn’t take out loans. I got scholarships and grants to cover most of my education, and lots of people I knew got more covered than I did. I’m lucky in that aspect, but it’s also proof that not everyone is in a bad place when college is over.
Besides the education, you do learn a lot of life lessons and make a lot of lasting connections. There are networking opportunities too that will help with the future. I had a temp job one time where on my first day, my supervisor told me “Settle in and I’ll go read your resume and we’ll catch up after. Honestly, the agency sent me a bunch of resumes that I didn’t have time to go through. I skimmed them and noticed that we went to the same college, so I picked you.”
While there are advantages to college, I also wouldn’t discourage people who don’t go. College is good, but the key is that it’s not necessary. That’s why I’m not really for free tuition for everyone. I think it would encourage more people to waste space and time in college because it’s free, which also takes away from those that are in college for a purpose. If you have a natural skill or are in a trade, you’re better off not going to college and getting after it ASAP. You’d have more time to get hands on experience and really hone your craft.
I personally needed college to learn about my career in finance, where there’s lots of processes and rules and regulations. My education also touched on law and general business, since it all ties together with finance. At the same time, I have lots of friends and relatives doing much better than I am that didn’t go to college. It really comes down to the type of work. In a career like mine, trial and error learning isn’t an option, so I need to have a level of knowledge prior to starting. Other types of work allow people to try something and see how it works. In those cases, college is a waste as it’s taking away time that you could be earning and developing.
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Post by Valbroski on Feb 3, 2021 10:34:38 GMT -5
I think college being a waste is subjective. It was a good decision for me but I know a lot of people personally that racked up student loan debt only to never even use their degree. It’s hard to be sensible at 18 about your future but my two cents is only go to college when your ready and know what your career goals are. Don’t go to a four year school and spend the first two years as a liberal arts major, that’s just a waste of time and money. If you’re going to do that, do two years of community college then transfer.
Also as others have already mentioned, you can’t go wrong with trade school.
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Post by KiwiKiller on Feb 3, 2021 14:05:58 GMT -5
I got laid off due to COVID after being a top tier sales rep at a big tech company and its been hell going through this process to be honest. So many companies not only disrespect candidates time and energy but sometimes it seems like they actively try to find ways to "stump" them or make them fail... don't even get me started on recruiters. I have had a handful of companies that have had me go through 5-6 rounds and then give an excuse like "we went with someone with more experience" when my experience is more than on the paper description of the job. There have been a lot of other companies that just ghost you instead of being upfront and saying they went with someone else.
I will say there have been a few companies that have really impressed me on the flip side. There have been companies that have treated me really well and went out of their way to help throughout the process. Even though I may not get a role with that company it is smart because then I can refer friends to apply or whatnot and I appreciate that.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Feb 3, 2021 15:45:04 GMT -5
Totally agree. Unless you want to become a doctor, lawyer or schoolteacher, going to college is completely useless. And don't go into $100,000 in debt to get a major in gender studies or liberal arts, that's a path straight to failure. Definitely; if your going to college I think the issue is; when gets get out of HS it’s like a social contract you must go to college to be successful. And parents pressure they’re kids; and they don’t even know what the f—k they want. And they end up changing majors 3 times. Honestly; if you do have feeling you’ll need college education to get further in your career but your not narrowed. Go to community college and knock out your pre reqs. But; that and understand the logistics of your major. If you get bachelors in say psychology; understand how far or how in demand it goes. Because; that degree for example is very generic. It’s good for law enforcement and teaching; but it really doesn’t get you anywhere in the state of NM if it isn’t a masters. The logistics don’t seem right at all; my aunt pressured me into being a social worker. So go to school 4 years and rack up debit; just to make $30,000 before taxes a year? That’s bs to me. I lost my scholarship; my sophomore year. Due; I struggled in math and science and had very low failing grades while the rest of my courses were good-exemplary. I do wish I had that opportunity still; and I do get sad seeing my friends pre covid having fun college times and partying they’re asses off. And I loved just going and hanging out on the university grounds in my city. However I’m glad I didn’t go; because I know I would of went nuts. And I would be the I changed my major 5 times kinda guy. The only tool I would use a degree for is; is ranking up in law enforcement. If I even plan on sticking around or want to play the politics. There’s lots of other options in trades; military; law enforcement; or some people just work for good company and move up. I mean I knew guy who started working at smithes at the age of 22 by the age of 28 he a assistant store gm manager making $90,000 and they helped him pay for his college in biz administration. Choices after high school get really sticky and confusing
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Post by The Lion's Den on Feb 3, 2021 16:43:42 GMT -5
I got laid off due to COVID after being a top tier sales rep at a big tech company and its been hell going through this process to be honest. So many companies not only disrespect candidates time and energy but sometimes it seems like they actively try to find ways to "stump" them or make them fail... don't even get me started on recruiters. I have had a handful of companies that have had me go through 5-6 rounds and then give an excuse like "we went with someone with more experience" when my experience is more than on the paper description of the job. There have been a lot of other companies that just ghost you instead of being upfront and saying they went with someone else. I will say there have been a few companies that have really impressed me on the flip side. There have been companies that have treated me really well and went out of their way to help throughout the process. Even though I may not get a role with that company it is smart because then I can refer friends to apply or whatnot and I appreciate that. It is a game. You never know what the individual's values are on hiring. They may offer to help, they may not. Zero standards, 100% disrespect sometimes. You have no idea what the reason is, all you can do is try to be more prepared next time and put your best foot forward every time.
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