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Post by MaskedSuperstarFan on Feb 27, 2021 20:14:37 GMT -5
I keep hearing about the Rock And Roll Express being part of this line, but I’ve not seen anything “official”. Is there a tease or hint somewhere that I’ve missed? I’d love for them to be a part of this line. 👍
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Post by RedDevil on Feb 27, 2021 20:26:59 GMT -5
I keep hearing about the Rock And Roll Express being part of this line, but I’ve not seen anything “official”. Is there a tease or hint somewhere that I’ve missed? I’d love for them to be a part of this line. 👍 There was a tease quite early on with Zombie replying to a Tweet from Ricky Morton (I think) about something exciting that was coming. Matt Cardona has since confirmed in this thread that they are coming as a two-pack, but we’ve not heard it officially from Zombie yet as far as I remember. |
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Post by MaskedSuperstarFan on Feb 27, 2021 22:35:36 GMT -5
I keep hearing about the Rock And Roll Express being part of this line, but I’ve not seen anything “official”. Is there a tease or hint somewhere that I’ve missed? I’d love for them to be a part of this line. 👍 There was a tease quite early on with Zombie replying to a Tweet from Ricky Morton (I think) about something exciting that was coming. Matt Cardona has since confirmed in this thread that they are coming as a two-pack, but we’ve not heard it officially from Zombie yet as far as I remember. Thanks man. I’ve kind of been out of the loop for some time and have just started to visit this forum again after bouncing in and out for a few years. 👍 |
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Feb 27, 2021 22:43:30 GMT -5
Wait: was it confirmed that Mark is getting one?
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Post by Warriah' on Feb 28, 2021 5:00:51 GMT -5
Dino Bravo
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Earl Hebner
Bruiser Brody
Sabu
Matt Cardona
Brian Myers
Kevin Sullivan (in that form)
Smart Mark
Danhausen
If availability for the UK goes ahead I'd at least pick up everyone from Sabu up, if priced well I'd pick up everyone from Sullivan up.
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Post by RedDevil on Feb 28, 2021 7:18:55 GMT -5
Wait: was it confirmed that Mark is getting one? Yes; Zombie posted his design quite early on, he’s got the Macho Man 1 elbow smash-type pose. |
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Post by RedDevil on Feb 28, 2021 7:22:37 GMT -5
Here it is; back on page 5, a lot has been revealed since  |
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Feb 28, 2021 8:45:31 GMT -5
Hi everyone, Zombie Sailor here, Just wanted to chime in as there seems to be many people here in this message forum that don’t know the process of making action figures and the cost associated with manufacturing them (something new to me as well) The price to make each figure is far more than you could ever possibly imagine: For starters, JUST to make the steel master molds in the factory, EACH mold is between $8-9k. We are using high quality artists in the toy industry to hand sculpt each figure, that is several thousand dollars per figure. To get the initial resin prototypes cast, then painted are several thousand per character If a character has a soft goods coat or something, that’s $1000 to make a few copies plus the pattern copy for the factory to replicate Fees paid to the designer/blueprint layouts which is to Ron Rudat, who happens to be the man responsible for the overwhelming majority of all the WWF Hasbros figures look...coming out of toy designing retirement to continue the Hasbro legacy...Ron is paid very well and deserves every penny Graphic Design for ads, package design, safety testing, shipping containers from overseas to us here in the U.S., import fees, lawyers, etc. several thousand Then, the factory still has to charge us per piece whatever it is they charge us... Finally, royalties are paid out to every wrestler to give you officially licensed merchandise. The talent are getting paid a nice flat fee and a percentage of each figure sold, much more than the WWE would pay out for mass market releases and a much more hands on approach for talent to decide how they want their figure to look. Mattel for example, it might cost them $25k to make a steel master mold for an elite....but that’s being spread out over what, 30-50k figures made ? That cost becomes pennies per figure, though our molds cost less to make compared to a said elite figure, we are probably only making 1-2,000 of each character which factors into the cost per unit. These will definitely be on par with the best retail figures available and in most cases, way better...but these are being made(as of right now) in small batches, something unheard of to make this sort of investment with so few units being made. So we have a high cost to make each figure, then, we would like to make a little bit of profit afterall. The costs are huge, the risk is high, but no one else was doing it...or doing it good for that matter, so here we are. The Brian Myers Figure looks insane and is just about finished, series 1’s lineup has internally been made official with names not even shown yet and already sculpted. Nearly 20 names already signed, and I cannot stress enough...Dino Bravo’s FIRST figure. It’s going to be a fun ride. If you want mainstream figures of “main event” guys, there’s a Target 10 minutes down the road. If you want retro style figures done better than anyone with crazy attention to detail based on the majority of wrestlers who weren’t given their due, who might have very little merchandise out there or haven’t had merch in decades - then Zombie Sailor has got you covered. I appreciate the interest from everyone, thank you anyone who will support this line and I hope this helps clarify as to why these figures won’t be 10 bucks each. Just to chime in on the softgoods topic...being a Hasbro kid and seeing a couple similar comments in the thread, maybe people in general would prefer hard molded attire over soft goods anyway? If it costs extra for the soft goods and all. Growing up with LOD with shoulder pads, Macho Man in entrance gear and many many more, it's sorta a trademark of this figure style. 2ndly, I know you said someplace in the thread that at least 20 people are signed atm, without giving away names and spoiling anything, could you at least tell us, if we should expect anyone else that's a dead fit to the Hasbro timeline like Bravo? I.E. WWF talent and look from say 87-96? Just my 2 cents, I do appreciate all the breakdown and inside look into this process. Really looking forward to these! |
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Feb 28, 2021 8:50:41 GMT -5
Im curious to hear/see how everyone else would rank the lineup thus far from most excited to least excited. You don’t have to be buying them to play along! For me it would be: Dino Bravo Sabu Earl Hebner Danhausen Brian Myers Bruiser Brody Matt Cardona Kevin Sullivan (in that form) Dino Bravo Cardona Myers RNREX Hebner Sabu Brody Smart Mark Sullivan Danhausen |
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Post by ozz on Feb 28, 2021 10:04:53 GMT -5
Just for fun from an old-school guy:
Level 1: "I'd buy if I still collected heavily"
Dino Bravo
Earl Hebner
Kevin Sullivan (I think this form is great; surprised I seem to be in the minority)
Bruiser Brody (only rated this low because I never saw him wrestle in his day; though I've always known of him. Historically speaking I'd have to rank him in the top 2 at worst)
Level 2: "pass"
Sabu - never cared for him
Matt Cardona (I only collect old school, but he's cool. I'd probably get him before Sabu anyway)
Brian Myers (only know him from the sporadic figure pods I've caught)
Danhausen (never heard of him - another pod guy, I guess?)
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Post by casanova on Feb 28, 2021 12:15:59 GMT -5
Never heard of Danhausen and Sterling. Are they actually Wrestlers or some guys that run a podcast? Sorry for the dumb question but I really don’t get it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 12:33:39 GMT -5
Never heard of Danhausen and Sterling. Are they actually Wrestlers or some guys that run a podcast? Sorry for the dumb question but I really don’t get it. Sterling is essentially in this because he's one of the podcast guys, but he has wrestled for a very long time. Danhausen is a very popular independent wrestler, who is now signed to Ring of Honor. |
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Feb 28, 2021 22:10:02 GMT -5
A couple more I thought of to add to a wishlist of possilities.
"John Tenta" in light blue singlet, would be perfect next to bravo.
Genius/Lanny Poffy, guessing WWE owns the Genius gimmick, but in ring gear he was pretty generic, would think it could be made.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Mar 1, 2021 2:00:27 GMT -5
While we are discussing wishlists...
Jack Tunney
Bob Backlund
Sparky Plug
Ahmed Johnson
LOD with no pads
Howard Finkel
Ken Shamrock
Luna
Ghoulish Percy Pringle III
Savio Vega
Godwins
Skip
Sunny
Brooklyn Brawler
Vader
Big John Studd
Bruno Samartino
Joey Marella
Bobby Heenan
Gorilla Monsoon
Gene Okerlund
George Steele
Haku
Jesse Ventura
Lord Alfred Hayes
Hillbilly Jim
Jimmy Hart
King Kong Bundy
Miss Elizabeth
Mr. Fuji
Mr. T
Andre the Giant
Jake Roberts
One Man Gang
Rick Rude
Sensational/Queen Sherri
Virgil
Bad News Brown
Powers of Pain
Tugboat
Buddy Rose
USA Lex Luger
Sid
CM Punk
Raven
Dusty Rhodes
Jeff Jarrett
ICP
Public Enemy
Colt Cababa
Chris Hero
Steiner Brothers
RVD
Taz
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Post by Mr. Yellow on Mar 1, 2021 6:33:47 GMT -5
Does WWE own the rights to the Renegeade gimmick? With the recent reveal of the proto Renegeade it made me want a figure of that.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 1, 2021 7:55:01 GMT -5
Does WWE own the rights to the Renegeade gimmick? With the recent reveal of the proto Renegeade it made me want a figure of that. That would be cool too! Gimme anything from mid 90's WCW and I'll be pretty happy. Bascically anyone that had or was supposed to have an LJN style fig, and get Arn in there too for goodness sake, don't know what they were thinking back then not having him in that line. |
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 2, 2021 8:08:59 GMT -5
I'm excited to see which managers Zombie is going to be able bring into the line. They are an obvious miss from the Hasbro line so I'm certain they are high on his list of targets.
We know that WWE and Mattel have the rights to:
-Bobby Heenan
-Paul Heyman
-Miss Elizabeth
-Paul Ellering
-Classy Freddie Blassie
-Harley Race (though he's well overdue a second Mattel figure so maybe he's not available anymore?)
-Maybe still Sensational Sherri
-Maybe still Jimmy Hart
-Probably Harvey Whippleman
-Probably Paul Bearer
But we could potentially still get:
-Luna
-Jim Cornette
-Mr Fuji
-Sunny
-Sable
-Slick
-Bill Alfonso
-Francine
-Beulah
-Eric Bischoff
What about Afa? Or Captain Lou Albano? You'd think they'd be tight with WWE but do they have Legend deals?
Zombie could potentially mix-in a manager in each series without overdosing on non-wrestlers, but the list is quite long when you start to think about it 😄
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Post by casanova on Mar 2, 2021 8:34:03 GMT -5
While we are discussing wishlists... Jack Tunney Bob Backlund Sparky Plug Ahmed Johnson LOD with no pads Howard Finkel Ken Shamrock Luna Ghoulish Percy Pringle III Savio Vega Godwins Skip Sunny Brooklyn Brawler Vader Big John Studd Bruno Samartino Joey Marella Bobby Heenan Gorilla Monsoon Gene Okerlund George Steele Haku Jesse Ventura Lord Alfred Hayes Hillbilly Jim Jimmy Hart King Kong Bundy Miss Elizabeth Mr. Fuji Mr. T Andre the Giant Jake Roberts One Man Gang Rick Rude Sensational/Queen Sherri Virgil Bad News Brown Powers of Pain Tugboat Buddy Rose USA Lex Luger Sid CM Punk Raven Dusty Rhodes Jeff Jarrett ICP Public Enemy Colt Cababa Chris Hero Steiner Brothers RVD Taz Id buy all of them + many more. Big Bully Busick would be one of my most wanted not because he was such an influential character but only because he could have been such a great Hasbro figure. The character would have been a perfect match to the era. I would also love to see guys like Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn and Brian Pillmann - no matter of which era. Possibilities seem to be endless! Go ZST give them all before the year is over. 😆 |
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 2, 2021 15:59:49 GMT -5
Zombie is interviewed on The Fig Cave podcast: I started listening to it but, as always, I’ve been interrupted  |
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Post by guster on Mar 2, 2021 16:32:27 GMT -5
I'd love to listen, but Phil, who hosts that show, formerly of the Chick Foley Show, is a complete chode and garbage human being. He was rightfully fired from the CFS for routinely causing a divide amongst the twitter wrestling figure community and constantly lying. After what was suppose to be an amicable split and Chick thanking him and saying nothing but nice things upon his departure, he refused to relinquish control of the private facebook group forcing Chick to start a new one. He then ripped off her name which she has been using for years, "Un-Boxamania" for his youtube videos, which is not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, but was a clear attempt at trolling her and just shows his major character flaw on his part. He also went out of his way to block every single person that was part of the Chick Foley group.
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