Official WrestleMania 36 Thread - 4/4-5/2020

[Random Hero Est. 2003]

Given the circumstances, WWE knocked this out of the park. The Funhouse match was some Arkham Asylum stuff.

[POOR-ly Cuyler]

Just realized Braun could be Fiends next Target. He never forgets...

[rkmo: Everyone Else but Me]

Apr 5, 2020 23:48:42 GMT -5 POOR-ly Cuyler said:

Just realized Braun could be Fiends next Target. He never forgets...

That has always been obvious to me since rumors of Strowman being the replacement were uttered. Why everyone thinks Braun will be the one from whom Reigns wins his next championship is beyond me.

[POOR-ly Cuyler]

Apr 6, 2020 0:18:27 GMT -5 rkmo: Everyone Else but Me said:

Apr 5, 2020 23:48:42 GMT -5 POOR-ly Cuyler said:

Just realized Braun could be Fiends next Target. He never forgets...

That has always been obvious to me since rumors of Strowman being the replacement were uttered. Why everyone thinks Braun will be the one from whom Reigns wins his next championship is beyond me.

Yeah I guess I just figured Braun wouldn’t win. They’ve made him such a comedy act. Interested to see where both of these go.

[rkmo: Everyone Else but Me]

Apr 6, 2020 0:23:29 GMT -5 POOR-ly Cuyler said:

Apr 6, 2020 0:18:27 GMT -5 rkmo: Everyone Else but Me said:

That has always been obvious to me since rumors of Strowman being the replacement were uttered. Why everyone thinks Braun will be the one from whom Reigns wins his next championship is beyond me.

Yeah I guess I just figured Braun wouldn’t win. They’ve made him such a comedy act. Interested to see where both of these go.

Since we don't know how events will be held going forward, how they carry stories forward is a thing to wonder about. I've laid out how I think they move forward toward next year's Mania but their current situation is the biggest question mark.

[Controversial Maverick PUNK]

Obviously the usual suspects are bitching and whining... but you cannot have Charlotte lose to Rhea Ripley. What is so special about Ripley anyway? I'm not seeing it.

[Odafin Tutuola]

- NXT Women's Championship Match: The wrong person went over and a title change wasn't needed. Charlotte Flair isn't going to make any ing needle and it's she is so boring. Enough is enough with Charlotte Flair.
- Aleister Black Vs. Bobby Lashley - Good match and glad Aleister Black got the win.
- Otis Vs. Dolph Ziggler - Card filler should have been on SmackDown not at WrestleMania.
- Last Man Standing Match: ing great match and very physical. Love the ending and the right person went over. Match was too long.
- Raw Tag Team Championship: Okay match all four men did a great job.
- SmackDown Women's Championship Fatal Five Way Elimination Match: Okay match but why Bayley, she is a ing cold champion, I would have either Sasha Banks or Lacey Evans win the title.
- Firefly Fun House "Match": It is what it was nothing like the Boneyard "Match" between The Undertaker and AJ Styles. But this "match" would be good if you are high on weed. There was no way that Bray "The Fiend" Wyatt was loosing this "match"
- WWE Championship: Just like the Goldberg Vs. Braun Strowman Universal Championship short and simple, the right guy went over and thank ing god that we don't have to see Brock with a ing title.

I feel that night one had most the better matches but I give it to WWE for putting on a great show so that we can forget what is going on in this world currently with all of the COVID-19 stuff.

[Next Manufactured’s Sweater]

Really great show across the two nights. Specifically down to the Boneyard and Funhouse - they were just superb, absolutely bonkers matches. WWE turned the situation into a massive positive in these cases - truly two of the most memorable WrestleMania bouts ever. Huge props to everyone involved in these.

All of the normal matches suffered to some degree as a result of the environment. Drew’s win was flat without the crowd, and was the standard Brock Lesnar non-squash title match. I feel bad for him, but it is what it is. Otis really could’ve done with the crowd there for his moment with Mandy as well.

Edge vs Orton was long and kind of lame. A standard wrestling brawl was inevitably going to be dull after the madness of the boneyard match the night before.

I have a lot of respect for the effort in putting on the shows. Impressive work. Everyone did what they could, and while not everything worked, Mania was a lot better than it had any right to be. In a couple of cases, they hit huge home runs.

I hope things have settled down enough to have crowds back by Money in the Bank, but I know that’s unlikely.

[Rontaro13]

Although I enjoyed night 1 more, night 2 was still good. Favorite match tonight was Orton vs Edge. That match was two guys beating the hell out of each other in every way they can, and both refusing to give up. It was rather long, but honestly I liked it being long because it showed that Orton and Edge refused to stay down for one another. Other matches I liked and thought were good was the Smackdown Women's title match (curious where they go with Sasha & Bayley from here), and the NXT Women's Championship match despite the result. I enjoyed the Firefly Funhouse "Match", but I felt like this was more of a segment than a match. Brock vs Drew was a typical Brock match, but I am very glad that Drew won the WWE title. He deserves it and I hope he has a great run with the championship.

I wasn't here to give my opinion on night 1, but my favorite match from that night and for Wrestlemania overall would have to be the triple threat ladder match. It was an awesome match with great spots, great action, and a creative finish. KO vs Seth, and the Boneyard match were great too. Becky vs. Shayna was good too. Overall Wrestlemania 36 was a great event, and the performers managed to put on a great show despite there being no fans.

[r44gz96]

Is RAW on tonight

[tg11]

Nothing can top the Boneyard Match of Styles/Taker

However, that is how many title reigns now for Charlotte Flair y'all? She is now a 2 time NXT Women's Champion and a 10 time Women's Champion. If y'all take in the title reigns altogether she would be a 12 time champion but they don't recognize the NXT Women's Championship as a Women's World Title anyway but still. Rhea should have gone over Charlotte. Why? A loss for Rhea especially to Charlotte at Mania kills whatever momentum Rhea had or could have had. I'm talkin in terms of credibility. A loss for Charlotte wouldn't have hurt her at all whereas a loss for Rhea hurts her more or less going forward.

Wyatt/Fiend going over Cena was the right call even though it should have happened 6 years ago but to each their own. At least with a win y'all it actually helps build the character of the Fiend back up again especially after he lost the WWE Universal Championship to Goldberg.

RAW Tag Team Championship...Street Profits going over Garza and Theory was also another right call. Why? Street Profits are not only one of your most over Tag teams in the WWE right now but also they just won the titles not all that long ago so it wouldn't have made sense for them to drop it so soon. However, seeing Bianca Belair post match making the save for the Street Profits as they were being attacked by Garza/Theory and Zelina was unexpected at least for me. It makes sense though y'all considering Bianca and Montez are married in real life and to see her with the Street Profits post match to stand tall was great. I have to wonder though if Belair ends up on the main roster after this. If she does, it is obvious she ends up on RAW.

Smackdown Women's Championship...Bayley going over yet again wasn't surprising to me cuz if anythin y'all I expected this outcome to tell you the truth. I mean who is left for Bayley to beat? I mean she has gone through the whole division really. Unless they bring back Nia Jax and put her on Smackdown to go up against Bayley or you call up someone from NXT or you move someone from RAW over to Smackdown to face Bayley. However, I can see this leading into a Sasha babyface turn on Bayley especially considering the tension between the 2 of them during and after the match. I think WWE is probably setting up Sasha to beat Bayley for the title.

Ziggler vs Otis... Ziggler's first Mania singles match and it is against Otis really? However...I definitely did not expect Otis to win this match. I thought WWE was gonna pull a swerve and have Mandy come out only to turn on Otis and cost him the match. If anything I mean a Mandy Rose babyface turn is unexpected but one you can actually go with. However, where does Ziggler go from here though?

Lashley vs Aleister Black is one of those matches I didn't really care about. Why? Cuz of the fact y'all that Lana was involved. I mean all she has done really is hold Lashley back. Lashley should be a monster, he should be a main event guy. How is he goin to do that with Lana by his side? This win at least does wonders for Black because you can push him either towards the WWE United States Championship or even towards the WWE Championship. Lashley at this point needs to be separated from Lana because with her he's really going nowhere.

Edge/Orton Last Man Standing for me y'all was Match of the Night by far. The story these 2 told during the match was a thing of beauty. Probably one of the best and most brutal matches in Last Man Standing that I've ever seen. Edge showed no signs of ring rust but then again Orton made Edge look good in this match. There were times where I literally cringed and was scared for Edge because of Edge being seriously hurt in this match. However, Edge finishing Orton off with a Con-chair-to made so much sense.

Gronkowski becoming WWE 24/7 Champion was almost to be expected.

McIntyre going over in the main event to beat Lesnar to become WWE Champion was the right call. I think at this point WWE fans are sick of Brock being a part time champion and actually want to see the title defended more often. Hence, McIntyre winning. Now we have a full time Champion for once especially one that you can build around. This win does wonders for McIntyre character wise and it really solidifies him as a main event guy especially beating Brock. Don't get me wrong, I love Brock. I really do but WWE at this point needs to keep Brock away from the World Title scene at least for a little while and just put him in regular singles programs.

[The Sexy Psychotic]

The match I was most looking forward to was definitely Edge and Orton and sure it was a good brawl, and hey the length didnt bother me but what did was the psychology. There was none.
Way too many meaningless counts, they should have really leaned into the fact that Edge wanted to maim Orton, screw the counts, he wanted to hurt the man.

It could definitely gave had a very similar feel to the WM13 Austin/Hart classic, but the lack of real character and psychology let it down for me.

Overall it was a little out there for me with the cinematic matches and how alot of the matches were booked BUT I also understand that I'm just not who WWE is geared towards now and I'm cool with that too. I'm glad McIntyre won, I do wish he had had an actual match, I mean I'm so over Lesnar doing the finisher-finisher repeat thing, and would have loved to see him flex his wrestling credentials which he has in spades. It would have been nice to see Lesnar realise he couldn't put McIntyre away simply with the suplex and F5 so he was forced to wrestle but again it happened and we have a fresh Champion that I hope doesn't end up getting diluted and sanded-down like Seth did. Drew got over cause he had a cocky edge to him, keep it that way.

[~ Cymru ~]

Apr 6, 2020 1:22:47 GMT -5 Odafin Tutuola said:

- Firefly Fun House "Match": It is what it was nothing like the Boneyard "Match" between The Undertaker and AJ Styles. But this "match" would be good if you are high on weed.

Can confirm it was B/S even then.
This and was one of the matches I was hyped for. But it was confusing and no actual wrestling. Easily the worst outing for Wyatt since his return.

[@brit_figs]

Night 1 was hands down much better, but extremely proud to see Drew as champ! 🇬🇧

[RybackV1]

Very bitter ing sweet man. Finally my favorite wrestler gets the big push and wins the Title at Mania, so ing happy for Drew, but of all the god damn years man.. that iconic image that he deserved with 80,000 behind him on their feet as he held up his first WWE Championship at Wrestlemania will never happen.

[rowdy1971]

If people didn't like much of what happened these past two nights at Mania. You're stupid.

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Apr 5, 2020 23:48:42 GMT -5 POOR-ly Cuyler said:

Just realized Braun could be Fiends next Target. He never forgets...

They may decide Fiend is a good champ to have in this taped TV style era of COVID-19

[Chip]

Overall it was better than I expected, but still saddens me that we just watched "Wrestlemania"....with no live audience. It just did not feel like Wrestlemania. It felt like a WWE event, yes...but not Wrestlemania.

They made the best of a shitty situation. Some of the matches were probably not necessary, but there were some bright spots

Black/Lashley was actually a nice little match, for a last-minute thrown together thing
Rollins/Owens was the best wrestling match all weekend. Everything top to bottom was great, and the right guy won.
Ladder match was entertaining, not having the crowd hurt it overall but still those guys did well
Boneyard Match was one of the best things the company has ever done.
Funhouse was creative and different, absolutely enjoyable on every level and left me wanting more
Glad that both Drew & Braun are world champions, but the matches were ing trash, wastes of time....and not having a huge crowd pop moment ruined the wins

The bad?
Bryan/Sami was a letdown. I've seen what those two are capable of and I felt like that match was subpar and fell flat
Edge/Orton was too long and dragged on and on and on and on, and the constant moaning & groaning felt really forced and unnatural, more than usual.
Ziggler/Otis was whatever. It's a storyline, but it really suffered from no crowd
I wish some of the matches were played out in the ring a little differently, like...too many guys "playing to the audience" that wasn't there. Too many spots that were meant for audience participation. I would have like to have seen some more creativity through the shows....BUT I understand that's being nitpicky and given the circumstances I'm still overall happy with the entire thing

[Yambag Jones]

Apr 6, 2020 0:36:41 GMT -5 Controversial Maverick PUNK said:

Obviously the usual suspects are bitching and whining... but you cannot have Charlotte lose to Rhea Ripley. What is so special about Ripley anyway? I'm not seeing it.

WWE is trying to get her to as many title wins as her dad. That's the only reason Charlotte won. I think Ripley is their next women's star, but having her lose on a borderline unimportant show is ok.

[Yambag Jones]

Apr 6, 2020 8:02:55 GMT -5 RybackV1 said:

Very bitter ing sweet man. Finally my favorite wrestler gets the big push and wins the Title at Mania, so ing happy for Drew, but of all the god damn years man.. that iconic image that he deserved with 80,000 behind him on their feet as he held up his first WWE Championship at Wrestlemania will never happen.

That's why I thought Brock should win. Wins like that over Brock NEED to happen in front of large crowds. Not gonna lie, that was a huge letdown. The crowd reaction would have been insane and added to my enjoyment of the match.