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Post by LA Times on Sept 9, 2019 16:01:12 GMT -5
WTF? This would be an even bigger joke than UFC signing CM Punk. I never heard anything about TJ Perkins having a MMA background. Isnt he just a guy who loves video games and basketball sneakers? I always joked that Scott Coker would sign HHH, The Miz, Jinder Mahal, Karl Anderson, Big E, etc if they were interested in fighting and I was right.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 14, 2019 22:26:11 GMT -5
At least Jack Swagger/Jake Hager had a background in collegiate wrestling when he signed. WTF, bigger head scratcher than CM Punk if its true. At least Punk was a name.
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Post by LA Times on Sept 15, 2019 13:00:19 GMT -5
At least Jack Swagger/Jake Hager had a background in collegiate wrestling when he signed. WTF, bigger head scratcher than CM Punk if its true. At least Punk was a name. Apparently, TJ perkins martial arts background is that he trained some shootfighting when he was in new Japan pro wrestling
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 17, 2019 0:42:13 GMT -5
At least Jack Swagger/Jake Hager had a background in collegiate wrestling when he signed. WTF, bigger head scratcher than CM Punk if its true. At least Punk was a name. Apparently, TJ perkins martial arts background is that he trained some shootfighting when he was in new Japan pro wrestling Yeah and Punk trained in some sort of martial arts as well. Not exactly the same thing as having a career in a form of fighting/collegiate wrestling. Thats why guys like Brock, Lashley and Hager to a point, have found success in MMA while guys like Punk, Sean O Haire as examples have failed.
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Post by crashholly2002 on Sept 19, 2019 2:51:00 GMT -5
nothing will ever be the biggest joke of the UFC than CM Punk dude had the ego as huge as the grand canyon and his """offense""" was friggin twirl kicks and and pitiful punches (he can't even uppercut a stable, non-moving dummy in a youtube video)
(CM Punk had to change where he was looking mid-punch, it's was like a scene out of a cartoon)
(look at this form)
(he completely missing a non-moving object, not even hitting the jaw-line)
(the infamous twirl kick in question)
and the kicker? he was sooo bad that he got himself and Mike Jackson fired
the only way for TJ Perkins to be as big of a joke as CM Punk is if he fails to not get canned within 3 bouts
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 20, 2019 20:52:34 GMT -5
^ lotta salt there. As of plenty of guys and girls WITH YEARS of training dont completely fail.
Bellator had shamrock/gracie 3 and kimba/dada main and co main the same event. THAT was a joke.
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Post by crashholly2002 on Sept 21, 2019 5:09:51 GMT -5
^ lotta salt there. As of plenty of guys and girls WITH YEARS of training dont completely fail. Bellator had shamrock/gracie 3 and kimba/dada main and co main the same event. THAT was a joke. CM Punk did nonstop training and nearly gotten beat to death in his UFC matches, against rookies no less (Mickey Gall's win-loss record was 1-0 at the time and Mike Jackson's was 1-1) yet another ex-wwe superstar Jack Hager (Jack Swagger) has a win-loss record of 2-0 against guys like J.W. Kiser and TJ Jones, who are notorious rookies; so what's CM Punk's excuse? Jack Hager didn't train as extensively as hard as Punk did and yet got 2 wins by submission
CM Punk just flat-out sucks so bad that he makes rookies look like Mike Tyson
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 21, 2019 7:58:25 GMT -5
^ lotta salt there. As of plenty of guys and girls WITH YEARS of training dont completely fail. Bellator had shamrock/gracie 3 and kimba/dada main and co main the same event. THAT was a joke. CM Punk did nonstop training and nearly gotten beat to death in his UFC matches, against rookies no less (Mickey Gall's win-loss record was 1-0 at the time and Mike Jackson's was 1-1) yet another ex-wwe superstar Jack Hager (Jack Swagger) has a win-loss record of 2-0 against guys like J.W. Kiser and TJ Jones, who are notorious rookies; so what's CM Punk's excuse? Jack Hager didn't train as extensively as hard as Punk did and yet got 2 wins by submission
CM Punk just flat-out sucks so bad that he makes rookies look like Mike Tyson
He trained for a couple years when the wwe thing didnt work. Mma fighters dont train for a couple years, and the rare ones that do are usually built like tanks. Most of them have amateur fights, years of classes, etc. I've boxed. So I'll tell you what. Go practice boxing for a year. Then we have a match. We see if that 1 year overcomes my 6 years of lessons/private training/actual fights. It doesnt work that way. Hook at Swagger He has years of a wrestling background, real wrestling not wwe. 100% he never belonged there. But he had name value, brought new eyes to the company and made them money. A lot more than Dada made bellator. I still say a guy so out of shape that he died from complications of making the heavyweight limit a bigger joke.
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Post by SteveHulk on Sept 21, 2019 11:08:53 GMT -5
^ lotta salt there. As of plenty of guys and girls WITH YEARS of training dont completely fail. Bellator had shamrock/gracie 3 and kimba/dada main and co main the same event. THAT was a joke. CM Punk did nonstop training and nearly gotten beat to death in his UFC matches, against rookies no less (Mickey Gall's win-loss record was 1-0 at the time and Mike Jackson's was 1-1) yet another ex-wwe superstar Jack Hager (Jack Swagger) has a win-loss record of 2-0 against guys like J.W. Kiser and TJ Jones, who are notorious rookies; so what's CM Punk's excuse? Jack Hager didn't train as extensively as hard as Punk did and yet got 2 wins by submission CM Punk just flat-out sucks so bad that he makes rookies look like Mike Tyson
The difference is that Swagger comes from a legitimate (ie. real) wrestling background - just like Brock. And wrestling is often considered the best base to have in MMA... Punk only ever had a background in (worked) pro-wrestling and basically tried MMA because it "looked fun".
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Post by LA Times on Sept 21, 2019 15:37:00 GMT -5
^ lotta salt there. As of plenty of guys and girls WITH YEARS of training dont completely fail. Bellator had shamrock/gracie 3 and kimba/dada main and co main the same event. THAT was a joke. CM Punk did nonstop training and nearly gotten beat to death in his UFC matches, against rookies no less (Mickey Gall's win-loss record was 1-0 at the time and Mike Jackson's was 1-1) yet another ex-wwe superstar Jack Hager (Jack Swagger) has a win-loss record of 2-0 against guys like J.W. Kiser and TJ Jones, who are notorious rookies; so what's CM Punk's excuse? Jack Hager didn't train as extensively as hard as Punk did and yet got 2 wins by submission CM Punk just flat-out sucks so bad that he makes rookies look like Mike Tyson
CM Punk did not do nonstop training. He only had 7 wrestling sessions, 12 BJJ sessions and 14 boxing/kickboxing sessions before his UFC debut against Mickey Gall who was wrestling since he was 7 and a brown belt in BJJ.
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Post by LA Times on Sept 21, 2019 15:38:55 GMT -5
CM Punk did nonstop training and nearly gotten beat to death in his UFC matches, against rookies no less (Mickey Gall's win-loss record was 1-0 at the time and Mike Jackson's was 1-1) yet another ex-wwe superstar Jack Hager (Jack Swagger) has a win-loss record of 2-0 against guys like J.W. Kiser and TJ Jones, who are notorious rookies; so what's CM Punk's excuse? Jack Hager didn't train as extensively as hard as Punk did and yet got 2 wins by submission CM Punk just flat-out sucks so bad that he makes rookies look like Mike Tyson
He trained for a couple years when the wwe thing didnt work. Mma fighters dont train for a couple years, and the rare ones that do are usually built like tanks. Most of them have amateur fights, years of classes, etc. I've boxed. So I'll tell you what. Go practice boxing for a year. Then we have a match. We see if that 1 year overcomes my 6 years of lessons/private training/actual fights. It doesnt work that way. Hook at Swagger He has years of a wrestling background, real wrestling not wwe. 100% he never belonged there. But he had name value, brought new eyes to the company and made them money. A lot more than Dada made bellator. I still say a guy so out of shape that he died from complications of making the heavyweight limit a bigger joke. It was Kimbo Slice that died a few months after that fight. Dada 5000 survived his heart attack that he got in the cage.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 21, 2019 17:14:22 GMT -5
He trained for a couple years when the wwe thing didnt work. Mma fighters dont train for a couple years, and the rare ones that do are usually built like tanks. Most of them have amateur fights, years of classes, etc. I've boxed. So I'll tell you what. Go practice boxing for a year. Then we have a match. We see if that 1 year overcomes my 6 years of lessons/private training/actual fights. It doesnt work that way. Hook at Swagger He has years of a wrestling background, real wrestling not wwe. 100% he never belonged there. But he had name value, brought new eyes to the company and made them money. A lot more than Dada made bellator. I still say a guy so out of shape that he died from complications of making the heavyweight limit a bigger joke. It was Kimbo Slice that died a few months after that fight. Dada 5000 survived his heart attack that he got in the cage. Poorly worded on my part. He isnt dead, but he was pronounced dead on at least 2 occassions after the fight.
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Post by Sonnen on Oct 15, 2019 15:03:01 GMT -5
I'm open to anyone giving it a try. But it's hard to get excited after how embarrassing Punk performed.
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