Deleted
Joined on: Nov 17, 2024 8:24:42 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 12:22:53 GMT -5
Let me elaborate on the Bayley one I mentioned. Everyone thinks her main roster stint has sucked because they didn't copy the NXT storyline with her coming in as an underdog before finally winning the big one. I don't think that would have worked. Since she got so big in NXT why go back to all of a sudden being an underdog again? It all went downhill after the Alexa feud, but before that I liked the way she was used. Of course that's my(unpopular) opinion.
|
|
|
Post by World Champion Randy Orton on Mar 30, 2018 12:26:54 GMT -5
NXT Finn Balor > WWE Finn Balor
205 Live is the best WWE program right now
Rusev Day is more annoying that the What? Chants
I'm glad the streak ended the way it did
Finn Balor has been so boring since returning from injury, it's like he is just phoning it in and trolls everyone with things he hears about on the Internet. The smiling is pointless and makes him look like a moron. (This is coming from someone who absolutely loved him in NXT and when he won the Universal Championship).
Teaming Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn was a horrible idea because Sami is holding Kevin back
I love Brock's Universal Championship run.
Christian is one the best all around WWE performers of all time
Old school wrestling is boring but I respect it.
Both Rock vs Cena matches were awesome.
I absolutely hated Chris Benoit's 2004 push (putting the murder aside)
Womens wrestling is incredibly overrated with the exception of a few matches (mainly NXT)
Idk if this is unpopular but rather not talked about that much but Tomasso Champa is the best Heel in the business right now.
|
|
|
Post by cordless2016 on Mar 30, 2018 12:42:51 GMT -5
This could certainly qualify as popular in some circles, but I know it's something that was argued against at the time, and still is argued against now. At the time, and now in hindsight, CM Punk should have been in the main event of Wrestlemania 29 with The Rock and John Cena. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise. The story was perfect, and everything over the course of the year prior led to that being the match. I’d go as far to say that the WM29 main event should have been Cena/Punk with Rock/Taker as the other big match. Rock/Cena didn’t need to meet again after “once in a lifetime.” Yeah they wanted to get Cena his win back, but it wasn’t needed after Cena toppled Brock the previous year. That match that Cena and Punk had on Raw right before WM29 was WM worthy. Punk and Rock feud at the RR, where it ends in a DQ finish after the Shield comes out and takes out the Rock. Taker’s gong hits and he clears the ring. At the Elimination Chamber, we get The Shield vs Cena, Rock and Taker, where Punk interferes which leads to Cena taking the pin. We then get the build to Cena/Punk and Rock/Taker for WM29.
|
|
|
Post by ClashOfStyles on Mar 30, 2018 12:59:18 GMT -5
This could certainly qualify as popular in some circles, but I know it's something that was argued against at the time, and still is argued against now. At the time, and now in hindsight, CM Punk should have been in the main event of Wrestlemania 29 with The Rock and John Cena. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise. The story was perfect, and everything over the course of the year prior led to that being the match. I’d go as far to say that the WM29 main event should have been Cena/Punk with Rock/Taker as the other big match. Rock/Cena didn’t need to meet again after “once in a lifetime.” Yeah they wanted to get Cena his win back, but it wasn’t needed after Cena toppled Brock the previous year. That match that Cena and Punk had on Raw right before WM29 was WM worthy. Punk and Rock feud at the RR, where it ends in a DQ finish after the Shield comes out and takes out the Rock. Taker’s gong hits and he clears the ring. At the Elimination Chamber, we get The Shield vs Cena, Rock and Taker, where Punk interferes which leads to Cena taking the pin. We then get the build to Cena/Punk and Rock/Taker for WM29. Damn that’s actually a really good idea. Maybe Punk would have actually stayed if he got his WM main event at 29. Rock vs Taker would’ve been great too. The only negative is that we wouldn’t have got the amazing Punk vs Taker match which was possibly the best streak match.
|
|
|
Post by J12 on Mar 30, 2018 13:05:19 GMT -5
This could certainly qualify as popular in some circles, but I know it's something that was argued against at the time, and still is argued against now. At the time, and now in hindsight, CM Punk should have been in the main event of Wrestlemania 29 with The Rock and John Cena. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise. The story was perfect, and everything over the course of the year prior led to that being the match. I’d go as far to say that the WM29 main event should have been Cena/Punk with Rock/Taker as the other big match. Rock/Cena didn’t need to meet again after “once in a lifetime.” Yeah they wanted to get Cena his win back, but it wasn’t needed after Cena toppled Brock the previous year. That match that Cena and Punk had on Raw right before WM29 was WM worthy. Punk and Rock feud at the RR, where it ends in a DQ finish after the Shield comes out and takes out the Rock. Taker’s gong hits and he clears the ring. At the Elimination Chamber, we get The Shield vs Cena, Rock and Taker, where Punk interferes which leads to Cena taking the pin. We then get the build to Cena/Punk and Rock/Taker for WM29. I don't disagree, and I was always a huge proponent for Cena and Punk getting a Wrestlemania main event together because of how important I perceive the Money in the Bank match to be. That feud, to me, pulled the company out of the colossal rut it had been in as a whole since around 2007. Don't get me wrong, there was some great stuff during those years, but as a whole, the company really seemed to lack focus and Cena wasn't nearly as good as he'd come to be in the back half of his career. CM Punk was the first new star that really clicked, after so many misfires with the wrong guys in years prior. That match is a special moment, and a turning point for me. With all of that said, the reason I mention the triple threat specifically (besides the story making sense) is because I can't imagine a scenario where they don't put Cena and Rock against each other again in some capacity. I think your idea becomes significantly more plausible if Cena just wins the first match with The Rock. And, really, in hindsight, I think that's what should have happened. Losing out on Punk/Taker isn't a big deal to me because I never viewed that match in as high regard as many. I thought it was painfully obvious that Punk was burnt out and didn't really care, and because of what had transpired over the course of the last year plus, The Undertaker felt like a consolation prize. It was the best match on the show, but I'd also argue it was a really bad show.
|
|
Sting a Ling
Superstar
Joined on: Jul 7, 2015 16:21:42 GMT -5
Posts: 564
|
Post by Sting a Ling on Mar 30, 2018 13:24:12 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan should stay away from Wrestling, not because of his ability but because of his injuries Charlotte Flair and Naomi are 2 of the best women on the WWE Roster Liv Morgan and Ruby Riott are awful. Part Timers should disappear Old school Raws suck Jinder Mahals titile reign wasn't so bad. Bayley is probably the worst women on the roster Dana Brooke should be given more time on TVApollo needs to go back to NXT Bray Wyatt should team with Strowman at Mania After a watching a live 205 Live, I can say that they are way better to watch in person I’m generally interested in how this particular claim can be explained. To me, Dana Brooke is far and away the worst performer in all of WWE.. Dana at least has the look and the talent. She has the ability but needs a little more time during Live Events and on Tv to develop her character and improve her ability
|
|
|
Post by marino13 on Mar 30, 2018 13:46:37 GMT -5
Few more...
I miss Neville.
I love Bret Hart, but I hate when he talks. The more he says, the more bitter he sounds.
Speaking of Bret, He was wrong and the MSJ was his fault. He forced Vince's hand.
I think most fans ruin WWE for themselves. Always acting like an insider takes away the fun IMO.
Some people make too big of a deal out of NJPW. It's good, sometimes great, but sometimes it is over hyped. I think it's only because it's not WWE.
HBK after his return > HBK before his injury.
I believe Steve Austin did his best work in wCw as Stunning Steve.
wCw Jericho > WWE Jericho
The AJ/Jericho feud was meh.
I despise how people here act during Toy Shows.
New Day were more fun as annoying heels.
I never thought Wade Barrett was WWE Champion material.
WWE severely dropped the ball on Heath Slater's "I have kids" gimmick. It could have been comedy gold for months.
Shane does all the same things people hate Stephanie for, yet he get's none of the hate.
Lex Luger wasn't as bad as people make him out to be. Just don't ask him to give a Figure Four.
I don't think having scripted promos are a bad thing necessarily. Give the talent some freedom, but keep them from getting lost. See Kalisto's draft promo as example.
|
|
|
Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Mar 30, 2018 15:35:50 GMT -5
Few more... I miss Neville.[ There are people that dont? Are they on here? Can we ban them?
|
|
|
Post by Rude Awakening on Mar 30, 2018 15:49:12 GMT -5
Ruthless Aggression is the best era in wwe history
Dirt sheets ruin wrestling
Shelton Benjamin is the most underrated superstar of all time
The IWC will always be bitter no matter how good wwe is
You can hate John Cena, but you can’t not respect him
The Brand split benefitted wwe and the superstars
|
|
|
Post by cordless2016 on Mar 30, 2018 15:51:53 GMT -5
I’d go as far to say that the WM29 main event should have been Cena/Punk with Rock/Taker as the other big match. Rock/Cena didn’t need to meet again after “once in a lifetime.” Yeah they wanted to get Cena his win back, but it wasn’t needed after Cena toppled Brock the previous year. That match that Cena and Punk had on Raw right before WM29 was WM worthy. Punk and Rock feud at the RR, where it ends in a DQ finish after the Shield comes out and takes out the Rock. Taker’s gong hits and he clears the ring. At the Elimination Chamber, we get The Shield vs Cena, Rock and Taker, where Punk interferes which leads to Cena taking the pin. We then get the build to Cena/Punk and Rock/Taker for WM29. I don't disagree, and I was always a huge proponent for Cena and Punk getting a Wrestlemania main event together because of how important I perceive the Money in the Bank match to be. That feud, to me, pulled the company out of the colossal rut it had been in as a whole since around 2007. Don't get me wrong, there was some great stuff during those years, but as a whole, the company really seemed to lack focus and Cena wasn't nearly as good as he'd come to be in the back half of his career. CM Punk was the first new star that really clicked, after so many misfires with the wrong guys in years prior. That match is a special moment, and a turning point for me. With all of that said, the reason I mention the triple threat specifically (besides the story making sense) is because I can't imagine a scenario where they don't put Cena and Rock against each other again in some capacity. I think your idea becomes significantly more plausible if Cena just wins the first match with The Rock. And, really, in hindsight, I think that's what should have happened. Losing out on Punk/Taker isn't a big deal to me because I never viewed that match in as high regard as many. I thought it was painfully obvious that Punk was burnt out and didn't really care, and because of what had transpired over the course of the last year plus, The Undertaker felt like a consolation prize. It was the best match on the show, but I'd also argue it was a really bad show. Having Rock win the first match was a nice surprise, and I agree that it really messed with a possible Cena/Punk WM match, but Cena’s win over Brock (and winning the majority of his matches in 2012) seemed to erase the impact of that loss to me. They didn’t need to face off again, and if the WWE was determined to get Cena his win back, they should have done it at the RR where Cena beats Rock and Punk successfully defends against either Ryback or in a triple threat against Team Hell No. I feel a triple threat match with Cena, Rock and Punk would have led to Punk being the odd man out to the point that he’s still frustrated with his position. Punk has specifically stated that he took it as an insult that Miz main evented a WM over him. Because of that I don’t see anything short of a 1v1 WM main event to change his feelings at the time.
|
|
|
Post by Sizzle on Mar 30, 2018 15:53:40 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 3 is overrated
Also the current era is undeniably superior to the mid 90s.
|
|
|
Post by J12 on Mar 30, 2018 15:54:56 GMT -5
I don't disagree, and I was always a huge proponent for Cena and Punk getting a Wrestlemania main event together because of how important I perceive the Money in the Bank match to be. That feud, to me, pulled the company out of the colossal rut it had been in as a whole since around 2007. Don't get me wrong, there was some great stuff during those years, but as a whole, the company really seemed to lack focus and Cena wasn't nearly as good as he'd come to be in the back half of his career. CM Punk was the first new star that really clicked, after so many misfires with the wrong guys in years prior. That match is a special moment, and a turning point for me. With all of that said, the reason I mention the triple threat specifically (besides the story making sense) is because I can't imagine a scenario where they don't put Cena and Rock against each other again in some capacity. I think your idea becomes significantly more plausible if Cena just wins the first match with The Rock. And, really, in hindsight, I think that's what should have happened. Losing out on Punk/Taker isn't a big deal to me because I never viewed that match in as high regard as many. I thought it was painfully obvious that Punk was burnt out and didn't really care, and because of what had transpired over the course of the last year plus, The Undertaker felt like a consolation prize. It was the best match on the show, but I'd also argue it was a really bad show. Having Rock win the first match was a nice surprise, and I agree that it really messed with a possible Cena/Punk WM match, but Cena’s win over Brock (and winning the majority of his matches in 2012) seemed to erase the impact of that loss to me. They didn’t need to face off again, and if the WWE was determined to get Cena his win back, they should have done it at the RR where Cena beats Rock and Punk successfully defends against either Ryback or in a triple threat against Team Hell No. I feel a triple threat match with Cena, Rock and Punk would have led to Punk being the odd man out to the point that he’s still frustrated with his position. Punk has specifically stated that he took it as an insult that Miz main evented a WM over him. Because of that I don’t see anything short of a 1v1 WM main event to change his feelings at the time. All fair points. I'm sort of of the mindset that Punk was likely to leave in frustration regardless of how that scenario was handled, simply because he was so very clearly unhealthy and burnt out. Still, it doesn't change the fact that either way, he would've had a main event under his belt. Wrestlemania 3 is overrated I agree with this wholeheartedly. I'd even take it a step further and say none of the early Wrestlemanias are particularly good. I think Wrestlemania 3 has a ton of inertia as a world-renowned wrestling event and that makes it very uncommon to hear people break from tradition on it. But, really, I think there's a huge difference between a good show and culturally/historically significant show. Wrestlemania 3 is undoubtedly the latter, but, in my opinion, not so much the former. Circumstances be damned, Hogan/Andre is a bad match. Steamboat/Savage is very good, with excellent psychology, but it's not a match that hasn't been done again and done better in later years and later eras. I view that show as a bit of a breakthrough, but certainly not because it holds up decades later.
|
|
|
Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 30, 2018 17:38:30 GMT -5
1) Face Seth Rollins sucks.
2) Jinder wasn't a bad champion.
3) Finn Balor is nothing without his Demon persona.
4) Roman Reigns isn't as bad as people make out.
5) 00's Shawn Michaels is overrated.
6) Stephanie is great at playing the evil boss.
7) WCW's final days were more entertaining than WWE's current product.
8) Triple H's reign of terror help make the WHC mean something.
9) The Invasion storyline was awesome.
10) Sting should not have joined the WWE in 2001.
11) Gimmicks and characters draw more than guys who play themselves.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: Nov 17, 2024 8:24:42 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 17:48:44 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 3 is overrated Also the current era is undeniably superior to the mid 90s. Everyone thinks wrestlemania 3 was awesome as a whole because of Savage vs Steamboat. Yes that was an awesome match, but there was more bad matches than good on that show.
|
|
|
Post by cordless2016 on Mar 30, 2018 18:44:01 GMT -5
A few more...
- Edge is the most overrated star of the 00’s. I enjoyed him before his neck injury, and he was fun as a heel character, but never thought he was that great of an in-ring performer post-neck surgery. Good mic and character work but I honestly can’t think of a match I enjoy of his post-neck surgery besides his TLC match with Cena. I think his match with Taker at WM24 is boring.
- Christian is an all-around better performer than Edge.
- Matt Hardy should have been a world champ.
- Bret Hart was right to refuse to loose in Montreal. It’s a combo of it being in his contract and the fact that Vince and HBK made life hell for him.
- Jeff Jarrett deserves to be in the HOF. Too many people buy into the WWE revisionist crap they spew.
- I enjoyed JBL’s title run.
- Eddie should have never turned heel in 2005.
- British Bulldog was boring as a character and not a great in-ring performer unless he had Bret, Owen or HBK working with him.
|
|
shawnedge
Mid-Carder
Joined on: Apr 23, 2012 15:36:46 GMT -5
Posts: 180
|
Post by shawnedge on Mar 30, 2018 22:27:33 GMT -5
- Booker T should have been in a WWE or World Heavyweight championship feud during his 2011-2012 run and should have won one of them before retiring, (he deserved more than the Intercontinental title picture)
- Booker is very entertaining on commentary.
- Harper should be a main event talent, not lumbered with Rowan again. One of the most talented performers on the roster.
- Steph is one of the best heels in WWE history.
- Never really saw the Punk hype but would still like to see him return.
- The Bella Twins actually come across as likable, hard-working, dedicated and talented women and they do not get enough credit for their contribution to wrestling.
- Alicia Fox is very underrated and has never been giving the chance to really shine and she deserves more respect as a veteran.
Don't know if these ones are unpopular or not:
- Adam Rose's NXT character Leo Kruger was gold.
- Peyton Royce is slightly better in the ring than Billie Kay but Kay has a little bit more character (both are incredible).
- Goldust should have beat Cena on Raw a couple of weeks ago.
- Mickie James can still wrestle circles around more than half of the current Women's division and should be holding a title right now.
- Braun and Bliss should be a permanent pairing.
- WWE should mix male and female superstar storylines with each other more.
- WWE need to distinguish their main event talent from their midcard talent and stop giving midcard titles to top tier guys (Styles and Orton winning the US Championship within the last year). These titles need to kept for talent who don't really fit into the main event picture e.g. The Miz, as amazing and talented as he is.
- Jericho should get a lengthy WWE or Universal Championship run before he retires.
|
|
|
Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 31, 2018 0:23:09 GMT -5
Here's a good one... I totally preferred HEEL Stone Cold Steve Austin.... not kidding! Which heel version are you talking about? The beginning of Stone Cold when he won KOTR and his feud with Bret or Invasion angle "heel"? Owen Hart was better than Bret was.Nakamura sucks You almost had me on board. Roddy Piper rightfully never won the big one. I'm not sure I agree with that but that's a debate I'd LOVE to have. Interesting idea; fascinating topic. Wwe didn’t miss the boat on the Wolves. The wolves missed the boat. They did not want to sign. My biggest one (for current WWE) is that Corey Graves is o e of the worst announcers. My understanding is that one of the Wolves wanted to sign with WWE and the other for not. Don't recall which is which now. But during their tryout they were given the go home sign and kept wrestling for several minutes which killed their chances. It certainly didn't help that this was during the era when being their size was two strikes against you. This is what I read at the time so who knows if it's true. Bret Hart is beyond over rated. Shawn Michaels doesn’t get enough credit for being on the best ever. Dolph Ziggler should have been a main eventer. Wwe should have given Zack Ryder a main event push when his internet show took off There is too much wrestling on each week. Golden age with gimmicks and characters is under rated. Christian should have been a world champ more than once Christian won the world title twice in WWE.., He may have won a "world title" but he did but win the world title, and that is a crime.
|
|
|
Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Mar 31, 2018 7:39:28 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is The Man, the most consistently excellent in-ring performer they have, and has more presence than anybody else on the full time roster.
The only challenge to Roman’s position is Braun Strowman, which is great because he’s a huge monster and did 0 flips in ROH or NJPW.
NXT makes it very difficult to debut newcomers to the main roster, because there’s too delicate a balance of whether viewers know/care about the wrestler’s NXT story. Bayley, Nakamura, Zayn, Roode and others have suffered because of this.
Nakamura can be great, but he’s often not very good.
The overabundance of “workrate” matches has made them seem less special and encouraged the ideology that MOVESETZ~ should be prioritised over characters and gimmicks... which has led to few characters worth caring about outside of whoever is being “shoved down our throats” and whichever “good worker” is being “buried” at the time. Although Elias and Braun have bucked the trend a bit.
I don’t even know if this is unpopular anymore or if everyone has realised it, but Cesaro is not world champion material.
|
|
y13
Superstar
Joined on: Oct 17, 2014 22:06:35 GMT -5
Posts: 821
|
Post by y13 on Mar 31, 2018 8:34:05 GMT -5
Hmmm let’s see
Never got the appeal of Bayley. Everything about her matches, and pretty much a majority of the women’s matches feel like they are rehearsed and all the girls appear to be thinking too much in the ring of what to do next.
Roman Reigns is good
Bret/Shawn at Wrestlemania 12 is overrated and a chore to get through. Rock/HHH at Judgment Day 2000 is a better Iron Man match
Seth Rollins is the best all around performer in the company and should be the top guy. Him and Reigns should be 1 and 1a.
|
|
|
Post by 5th Horsewoman on Mar 31, 2018 8:56:58 GMT -5
People still dwelling on HHH calling Booker's hair nappy 15yrs later is hilarious.
|
|