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Feb 17, 2018 14:21:29 GMT -5
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Post by c-scope on Feb 17, 2018 14:21:29 GMT -5
there is evidence though. The guy got charged for carrying a pistol in the mall cause that mall had a no fire arms policy, dispite the fact he saved who knows how many lives that day. Again, no proof he saved any lives. His story changed 3 times in 2 days. again, use some common sense. If it hadn’t been for him doing that do you really think only two people would’ve died?
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Feb 17, 2018 14:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 17, 2018 14:26:15 GMT -5
ARs are .223s. That a fairly small caliber.
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Feb 17, 2018 14:29:47 GMT -5
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Post by c-scope on Feb 17, 2018 14:29:47 GMT -5
ARs are .223s. That a fairly small caliber. what does that have to do with anything? It’s still a small round. The caliber doesn’t just effect the physical size of the round. And a .223 is a small round.
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Feb 17, 2018 14:36:59 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 17, 2018 14:36:59 GMT -5
Again, no proof he saved any lives. His story changed 3 times in 2 days. again, use some common sense. If it hadn’t been for him doing that do you really think only two people would’ve died? Seeing as it was his word..no I don’t believe it
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Feb 17, 2018 14:43:55 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 17, 2018 14:43:55 GMT -5
what does that have to do with anything? It’s still a small round. The caliber doesn’t just effect the physical size of the round. And a .223 is a small round. “Assault rifles don’t shoot the largest bullets on the market. In fact, the .223 projectile, a common round for the AR-15, is not much larger than many .22 rounds like the Hornet, typically used for youth shooting sports, target shooting, and hunting varmints. The .223 weighs in at 55 grains, while the .22 is usually 45 grains or smaller.” “What makes the .223 potentially deadlier than the .22 is its velocity. When the .223 exits the barrel of a gun, it flies at more than 3,200 feet per second, and is still going 1,660 feet per second after traveling 500 yards. The .22, meanwhile, leaves the muzzle at 2,690 feet per second, and slows to 840 feet per second at 500 yards. At that long distance, the .223 will slam into its target with almost twice the speed of the .22. The .223 is carrying 335 foot-pounds of force, while the .22 carries 70 foot-pounds.” www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetrace.org/2017/06/physics-deadly-bullets-assault-rifles/amp/You can’t refute physics because it doesn’t match your narrative
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Feb 17, 2018 14:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by c-scope on Feb 17, 2018 14:49:10 GMT -5
what does that have to do with anything? It’s still a small round. The caliber doesn’t just effect the physical size of the round. And a .223 is a small round. “Assault rifles don’t shoot the largest bullets on the market. In fact, the .223 projectile, a common round for the AR-15, is not much larger than many .22 rounds like the Hornet, typically used for youth shooting sports, target shooting, and hunting varmints. The .223 weighs in at 55 grains, while the .22 is usually 45 grains or smaller.” “What makes the .223 potentially deadlier than the .22 is its velocity. When the .223 exits the barrel of a gun, it flies at more than 3,200 feet per second, and is still going 1,660 feet per second after traveling 500 yards. The .22, meanwhile, leaves the muzzle at 2,690 feet per second, and slows to 840 feet per second at 500 yards. At that long distance, the .223 will slam into its target with almost twice the speed of the .22. The .223 is carrying 335 foot-pounds of force, while the .22 carries 70 foot-pounds.” www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetrace.org/2017/06/physics-deadly-bullets-assault-rifles/amp/You can’t refute physics because it doesn’t match your narrative this is completely asanine. I didn’t say they were the same as a .22, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a small round. What do you consider small? A BB gun? On top of that what you copy and pasted is asanine. Every bullet is deadly. Why people don’t understand is guns don’t kill people, people kill people I’m in done arguing with you. You’re grasping at straws to try and uphold an argument when you have none. You clearly don’t know crap about firearms based on your last two replies. Have a nice day.
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Feb 17, 2018 15:06:23 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 15:06:23 GMT -5
If you want to own a gun great, you can, if you don't, don't buy one. It couldn't be simpler
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Feb 17, 2018 15:31:06 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 15:31:06 GMT -5
My opinion is that guns should be banned. No reason to have them at all. You still live at home huh? I always find it hilarious when politicians want to prey on the naive and lower the voting age to 16.
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 17, 2018 15:55:23 GMT -5
Hate 'em. Always have, always will. But we have a right to have 'em if we want 'em. I don't think AR's should be sold, but that's just me. Even if they continue being sold: what is so hard about a more heads up background check system? As Americans, we're fools to think there isn't a file on us SOMEWHERE in the government no matter how off the grid one may choose to live, and if a bank can look into my history beyond a credit run to decide if they want to give me eight grand for a used car loan, I'd like to think we could do a more thorough check on weapons.
Long story, if you want one cool. If you don't, then cool. Just let's make sure they're not getting into the hands of bloody lunatics intending to do harm rather than just for self defense or sport.
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Post by Colter on Feb 17, 2018 16:26:54 GMT -5
Here's what will be my one and only post on this subject.
If you think your "hobby" is above human life, especially those lives of young children and teenagers, you don't deserve an opinion.
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Feb 17, 2018 17:43:52 GMT -5
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Feb 17, 2018 17:50:23 GMT -5
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 17, 2018 17:52:43 GMT -5
Why do school systems get no blame? We have 4 high schools here locally. 2 of which are completely fenced with the gates locked and a SRO at the gate. The other two all doors except the front doors are locked at 8am and arent unlocked until 3pm....We want to talk about "how easy it is to get a gun"....why are we not talking about how easy it is for these psychos to get into these schools?
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Feb 17, 2018 17:53:28 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 17, 2018 17:53:28 GMT -5
“Assault rifles don’t shoot the largest bullets on the market. In fact, the .223 projectile, a common round for the AR-15, is not much larger than many .22 rounds like the Hornet, typically used for youth shooting sports, target shooting, and hunting varmints. The .223 weighs in at 55 grains, while the .22 is usually 45 grains or smaller.” “What makes the .223 potentially deadlier than the .22 is its velocity. When the .223 exits the barrel of a gun, it flies at more than 3,200 feet per second, and is still going 1,660 feet per second after traveling 500 yards. The .22, meanwhile, leaves the muzzle at 2,690 feet per second, and slows to 840 feet per second at 500 yards. At that long distance, the .223 will slam into its target with almost twice the speed of the .22. The .223 is carrying 335 foot-pounds of force, while the .22 carries 70 foot-pounds.” www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetrace.org/2017/06/physics-deadly-bullets-assault-rifles/amp/You can’t refute physics because it doesn’t match your narrative this is completely asanine. I didn’t say they were the same as a .22, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a small round. What do you consider small? A BB gun? On top of that what you copy and pasted is asanine. Every bullet is deadly. Why people don’t understand is guns don’t kill people, people kill people I’m in done arguing with you. You’re grasping at straws to try and uphold an argument when you have none. You clearly don’t know crap about firearms based on your last two replies. Have a nice day. I was simply still replying to you about your comment of why people have an issue with AR-15 and not a semi auto .22. And that you could do much more damage with the .22 What I copied and pasted was not asinine. It’s an explanation of what makes each bullet different and how much more damage the .223 deals.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 17, 2018 17:57:36 GMT -5
The world is a messed up place and I think that people who say "ban guns" have their heart in the right place, but banning guns being sold legally is not going to stop a bad person from getting one if they really want on, unfortunately. A lot of people keep saying this but none of you can answer one simple question: Why does this only happen here? If you want to own a gun great, you can, if you don't, don't buy one. It couldn't be simpler Oh great, so if I don't want to get shot by some dickbag then I just don't get shot? Thanks! Problem solved.
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Feb 17, 2018 17:58:33 GMT -5
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Post by disorder on Feb 17, 2018 17:58:33 GMT -5
Why do school systems get no blame? We have 4 high schools here locally. 2 of which are completely fenced with the gates locked and a SRO at the gate. The other two all doors except the front doors are locked at 8am and arent unlocked until 3pm....We want to talk about "how easy it is to get a gun"....why are we not talking about how easy it is for these psychos to get into these schools? Then that would become a school funding discussion and how they should be heavily federally funded, not just locally. I agree with you though. I went from a middle school surrounded by barbed wire fence, that had metal detectors and armed cops always hanging out..to a high school that had 2 elderly security guards and cameras that didn’t work. If you were late to school, you could simply enter through the doors by the bus area. We could make this a gun issue or a mental health issue, but it’s not that simple. There’s so many flaws with in this country and society that need to be fixed, but nobody ever in charge ever seems to sincerely want to.
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Post by K5 on Feb 17, 2018 18:04:48 GMT -5
Why do school systems get no blame? We have 4 high schools here locally. 2 of which are completely fenced with the gates locked and a SRO at the gate. The other two all doors except the front doors are locked at 8am and arent unlocked until 3pm....We want to talk about "how easy it is to get a gun"....why are we not talking about how easy it is for these psychos to get into these schools? because other civilized countries that are equal wealthy don’t require these security systems because they do not have a prevalence in school shootings.
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Feb 17, 2018 18:06:59 GMT -5
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Post by K5 on Feb 17, 2018 18:06:59 GMT -5
you were trying to simplify the issue of gun control to rather having one if you wish to or not. those children who were lucky to survive featured in that article feel far differently about it than you do.
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Feb 17, 2018 18:07:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 18:07:59 GMT -5
The world is a messed up place and I think that people who say "ban guns" have their heart in the right place, but banning guns being sold legally is not going to stop a bad person from getting one if they really want on, unfortunately. A lot of people keep saying this but none of you can answer one simple question: Why does this only happen here? If you want to own a gun great, you can, if you don't, don't buy one. It couldn't be simpler Oh great, so if I don't want to get shot but some dickbag then I just don't get shot? Thanks! Problem solved. But you can’t control everyone. Nor should you or anyone else think they can
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 17, 2018 18:09:00 GMT -5
We know you don't understand. That's the problem.
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