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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 30, 2024 22:13:07 GMT -5
I forgot Luchasaurus, Jungle Boy, Sammy, Claudio, and Thunder Rosa are "niche." They're not. They shouldn't have been Crate Brawlers IMO. But they were. The majority of the All Elite crate brawlers have not been "niche," and Prince Nana is certainly the most insignificant character they will have made so far. My point is that based on the way the crate brawlers have been chosen (whether you agree with their system or not), someone like Ricky Starks should have come way, WAY before someone like Prince Nana. |
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Post by LK3 on Jan 30, 2024 22:14:26 GMT -5
Do we know Nana is the brawler, or is that just an assumption due to his inclusion in the crate?
Regardless, as someone who gets the all elite crate, I would not be in favor of each brawler being more niche. The way they’ve done them has been overall pretty good for my liking.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 30, 2024 22:16:25 GMT -5
Do we know Nana is the brawler, or is that just an assumption due to his inclusion in the crate? Regardless, as someone who gets the all elite crate, I would not be in favor of each brawler being more niche. The way they’ve done them has been overall pretty good for my liking. Yes. It was confirmed that Nana is the brawler. I saw the video reveal the other day. And I agree. I would not want to subscribe to the crate if the offerings are low tier characters. |
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Post by crush on Jan 30, 2024 22:21:52 GMT -5
They're not. They shouldn't have been Crate Brawlers IMO. But they were. The majority of the All Elite crate brawlers have not been "niche," and Prince Nana is certainly the most insignificant character they will have made so far. My point is that based on the way the crate brawlers have been chosen (whether you agree with their system or not), someone like Ricky Starks should have come way, WAY before someone like Prince Nana. I understand the point you're making, but saying the way Crate Brawlers are chosen can't be changed because that's how it's been is tantamount to saying they should keep making the same mistake. To use the examples that the original post used, it's insane that we've been able to get half-devil gimmick Adam Cole and -1 in open preorder, but people like Claudio have been locked behind the Crate paywall. I welcome moving away from that to a system where Crate Brawlers are either niche or different versions of previously released characters. Ricky Starks should have had a a Brawler like 2 years ago, and when he hopefully gets one soon it should be an open preorder, not locked in a crate. |
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Post by LK3 on Jan 30, 2024 22:23:21 GMT -5
Do we know Nana is the brawler, or is that just an assumption due to his inclusion in the crate? Regardless, as someone who gets the all elite crate, I would not be in favor of each brawler being more niche. The way they’ve done them has been overall pretty good for my liking. Yes. It was confirmed that Nana is the brawler. I saw the video reveal the other day. And I agree. I would not want to subscribe to the crate if the offerings are low tier characters. Gotcha, thanks. I’m good with that once in a while, and Nana is popular right now. Can we get some swerve action on that? If it’s someone like Harley f’n Cameron for no reason then that’s a problem. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 30, 2024 22:27:52 GMT -5
But they were. The majority of the All Elite crate brawlers have not been "niche," and Prince Nana is certainly the most insignificant character they will have made so far. My point is that based on the way the crate brawlers have been chosen (whether you agree with their system or not), someone like Ricky Starks should have come way, WAY before someone like Prince Nana. I understand the point you're making, but saying the way Crate Brawlers are chosen can't be changed because that's how it's been is tantamount to saying they should keep making the same mistake. To use the examples that the original post used, it's insane that we've been able to get half-devil gimmick Adam Cole and -1 in open preorder, but people like Claudio have been locked behind the Crate paywall. I welcome moving away from that to a system where Crate Brawlers are either niche or different versions of previously released characters. Ricky Starks should have had a a Brawler like 2 years ago, and when he hopefully gets one soon it should be an open preorder, not locked in a crate. I like how you say "locked" behind a crate like you can't get it off of eBay easily. What is the difference between a set amount of crate orders versus a set amount of stand-alone preorders? Once the preorder window is up, those brawlers are "locked" too. The All Elite crate brawlers are plentiful on the secondary market and I have never once heard of a complaint that Jungle Boy was in the crate instead of on his own. The first wave of AEW brawlers are way more rare than anything from the crates and those were stand alone preorders. I don't know why we even got this new Adam Cole brawler (one of my least favorite ever made), but that doesn't mean we should change the crate system. If I am subscribing to the crate, then I want my monies worth. I want good options. Not throwaway options and definitely not different versions of existing characters (unless it is a complete gimmick change). |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 30, 2024 22:28:45 GMT -5
Yes. It was confirmed that Nana is the brawler. I saw the video reveal the other day. And I agree. I would not want to subscribe to the crate if the offerings are low tier characters. Gotcha, thanks. I’m good with that once in a while, and Nana is popular right now. Can we get some swerve action on that? If it’s someone like Harley f’n Cameron for no reason then that’s a problem. Swerve has already been up for preorder though... |
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Post by crush on Jan 30, 2024 23:12:06 GMT -5
I understand the point you're making, but saying the way Crate Brawlers are chosen can't be changed because that's how it's been is tantamount to saying they should keep making the same mistake. To use the examples that the original post used, it's insane that we've been able to get half-devil gimmick Adam Cole and -1 in open preorder, but people like Claudio have been locked behind the Crate paywall. I welcome moving away from that to a system where Crate Brawlers are either niche or different versions of previously released characters. Ricky Starks should have had a a Brawler like 2 years ago, and when he hopefully gets one soon it should be an open preorder, not locked in a crate. I like how you say "locked" behind a crate like you can't get it off of eBay easily. What is the difference between a set amount of crate orders versus a set amount of stand-alone preorders? Once the preorder window is up, those brawlers are "locked" too. The All Elite crate brawlers are plentiful on the secondary market and I have never once heard of a complaint that Jungle Boy was in the crate instead of on his own. The first wave of AEW brawlers are way more rare than anything from the crates and those were stand alone preorders. I don't know why we even got this new Adam Cole brawler (one of my least favorite ever made), but that doesn't mean we should change the crate system. If I am subscribing to the crate, then I want my monies worth. I want good options. Not throwaway options and definitely not different versions of existing characters (unless it is a complete gimmick change). People shouldn't have to go to the secondary market after the fact because a first time in the Brawlers line wrestler was dropped in a Crate IMO. (Especially when AEW promotes Brawler preorders on their shows. Lord knows that company has enough trouble building and maintaining heat for stars as it is, so having an ad for say a Starks Brawler seems like a win-win for everyone, but I digress). And FTR, I feel the same about Jungle Boy, Claudio, Eddie, etc. It's backwards that those names have only been available as a blind crate or later on the secondary market. And FWIW, I feel the same way about the main PWCrate that I subscribe to. I greatly prefer more niche names in their that would unlikely to warrant a single release. However, all of this is oof course my opinion and I certainly respect that we have different views on it. (We do agree on thing thing at least though: That half-devil Cole Brawler is incredibly dumb, and I say that as a big Cole fan/collector) |
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Post by LK3 on Jan 30, 2024 23:36:28 GMT -5
Gotcha, thanks. I’m good with that once in a while, and Nana is popular right now. Can we get some swerve action on that? If it’s someone like Harley f’n Cameron for no reason then that’s a problem. Swerve has already been up for preorder though... I meant dance action for Nana lol |
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Post by jerm on Jan 31, 2024 10:22:26 GMT -5
I understand the point you're making, but saying the way Crate Brawlers are chosen can't be changed because that's how it's been is tantamount to saying they should keep making the same mistake. To use the examples that the original post used, it's insane that we've been able to get half-devil gimmick Adam Cole and -1 in open preorder, but people like Claudio have been locked behind the Crate paywall. I welcome moving away from that to a system where Crate Brawlers are either niche or different versions of previously released characters. Ricky Starks should have had a a Brawler like 2 years ago, and when he hopefully gets one soon it should be an open preorder, not locked in a crate. I like how you say "locked" behind a crate like you can't get it off of eBay easily. What is the difference between a set amount of crate orders versus a set amount of stand-alone preorders? Once the preorder window is up, those brawlers are "locked" too. The All Elite crate brawlers are plentiful on the secondary market and I have never once heard of a complaint that Jungle Boy was in the crate instead of on his own. The first wave of AEW brawlers are way more rare than anything from the crates and those were stand alone preorders. I don't know why we even got this new Adam Cole brawler (one of my least favorite ever made), but that doesn't mean we should change the crate system. If I am subscribing to the crate, then I want my monies worth. I want good options. Not throwaway options and definitely not different versions of existing characters (unless it is a complete gimmick change). If anything the Crate Brawlers are more accessible on Ebay as people dump ones they don't want. The preorders by their very nature are ones people either specifically want to buy or want to try and flip for a higher price. |
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Post by newgenandy on Jan 31, 2024 11:57:24 GMT -5
I like how you say "locked" behind a crate like you can't get it off of eBay easily. What is the difference between a set amount of crate orders versus a set amount of stand-alone preorders? Once the preorder window is up, those brawlers are "locked" too. The All Elite crate brawlers are plentiful on the secondary market and I have never once heard of a complaint that Jungle Boy was in the crate instead of on his own. The first wave of AEW brawlers are way more rare than anything from the crates and those were stand alone preorders. I don't know why we even got this new Adam Cole brawler (one of my least favorite ever made), but that doesn't mean we should change the crate system. If I am subscribing to the crate, then I want my monies worth. I want good options. Not throwaway options and definitely not different versions of existing characters (unless it is a complete gimmick change). People shouldn't have to go to the secondary market after the fact because a first time in the Brawlers line wrestler was dropped in a Crate IMO. (Especially when AEW promotes Brawler preorders on their shows. Lord knows that company has enough trouble building and maintaining heat for stars as it is, so having an ad for say a Starks Brawler seems like a win-win for everyone, but I digress). And FTR, I feel the same about Jungle Boy, Claudio, Eddie, etc. It's backwards that those names have only been available as a blind crate or later on the secondary market. And FWIW, I feel the same way about the main PWCrate that I subscribe to. I greatly prefer more niche names in their that would unlikely to warrant a single release. However, all of this is oof course my opinion and I certainly respect that we have different views on it. (We do agree on thing thing at least though: That half-devil Cole Brawler is incredibly dumb, and I say that as a big Cole fan/collector) Big fan of brawlers snd love seeing your collection Imo I think brawlers should be done as follows: First time, desirable characters, ‘anchors’ should be open to purchase Niche characters (deep aew roster etc), repaints, variants etc in crate We’ve seen the number of crates not just from PWT but others go down and popularity wane. People just have too much ‘stuff’. Realistically who buys a crate for a million dollar man clip or hot rod towel etc? People buy them cos the shirts are decent (even if just for gym, slobbing about etc and the brawlers. I’d like to see a ‘brawler’ only option where you can just get the monthly brawler for set price, slight discount if you sign up for 6 or 12 month options etc |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 31, 2024 16:54:27 GMT -5
I like how you say "locked" behind a crate like you can't get it off of eBay easily. What is the difference between a set amount of crate orders versus a set amount of stand-alone preorders? Once the preorder window is up, those brawlers are "locked" too. The All Elite crate brawlers are plentiful on the secondary market and I have never once heard of a complaint that Jungle Boy was in the crate instead of on his own. The first wave of AEW brawlers are way more rare than anything from the crates and those were stand alone preorders. I don't know why we even got this new Adam Cole brawler (one of my least favorite ever made), but that doesn't mean we should change the crate system. If I am subscribing to the crate, then I want my monies worth. I want good options. Not throwaway options and definitely not different versions of existing characters (unless it is a complete gimmick change). If anything the Crate Brawlers are more accessible on Ebay as people dump ones they don't want. The preorders by their very nature are ones people either specifically want to buy or want to try and flip for a higher price. So you agree with me? You’re making the same points as me. There is no such thing as “locked behind” a crate when, like you said, the crate brawlers are even more accessible on eBay. The open preorder works perfectly for niche characters because, like you said, the people that really want them will make the preorder for them. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 31, 2024 16:56:11 GMT -5
People shouldn't have to go to the secondary market after the fact because a first time in the Brawlers line wrestler was dropped in a Crate IMO. (Especially when AEW promotes Brawler preorders on their shows. Lord knows that company has enough trouble building and maintaining heat for stars as it is, so having an ad for say a Starks Brawler seems like a win-win for everyone, but I digress). And FTR, I feel the same about Jungle Boy, Claudio, Eddie, etc. It's backwards that those names have only been available as a blind crate or later on the secondary market. And FWIW, I feel the same way about the main PWCrate that I subscribe to. I greatly prefer more niche names in their that would unlikely to warrant a single release. However, all of this is oof course my opinion and I certainly respect that we have different views on it. (We do agree on thing thing at least though: That half-devil Cole Brawler is incredibly dumb, and I say that as a big Cole fan/collector) Big fan of brawlers snd love seeing your collection Imo I think brawlers should be done as follows: First time, desirable characters, ‘anchors’ should be open to purchase Niche characters (deep aew roster etc), repaints, variants etc in crate We’ve seen the number of crates not just from PWT but others go down and popularity wane. People just have too much ‘stuff’. Realistically who buys a crate for a million dollar man clip or hot rod towel etc? People buy them cos the shirts are decent (even if just for gym, slobbing about etc and the brawlers. I’d like to see a ‘brawler’ only option where you can just get the monthly brawler for set price, slight discount if you sign up for 6 or 12 month options etc I respectfully disagree. I only subscribe to the crate for the brawlers and pins. The rest is garbage. That garbage isn’t going to get any better and only gets worse over time. So, the only way to make the crate worth it is to include popular characters. Heavy hitters. Niche characters do not please a larger fanbase and subscriptions will dwindle even more. |
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 2, 2024 10:57:15 GMT -5
Big fan of brawlers snd love seeing your collection Imo I think brawlers should be done as follows: First time, desirable characters, ‘anchors’ should be open to purchase Niche characters (deep aew roster etc), repaints, variants etc in crate We’ve seen the number of crates not just from PWT but others go down and popularity wane. People just have too much ‘stuff’. Realistically who buys a crate for a million dollar man clip or hot rod towel etc? People buy them cos the shirts are decent (even if just for gym, slobbing about etc and the brawlers. I’d like to see a ‘brawler’ only option where you can just get the monthly brawler for set price, slight discount if you sign up for 6 or 12 month options etc I respectfully disagree. I only subscribe to the crate for the brawlers and pins. The rest is garbage. That garbage isn’t going to get any better and only gets worse over time. So, the only way to make the crate worth it is to include popular characters. Heavy hitters. Niche characters do not please a larger fanbase and subscriptions will dwindle even more. So would you like the suggestion I made they go for a brawler only crate? As I said in my earlier post most get the crates for the brawler or shirt (or in your example pin) and I think the days of monthly mystery boxes and crates etc are numbered as it is. A lot have already fell away and this one’s gone bi monthly. It’ll be quarterly next then eventually go imo. |
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Feb 2, 2024 12:13:44 GMT -5
Shirts were always the thing with me 🤷
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Post by originalhuggies on Feb 2, 2024 13:26:37 GMT -5
I enjoyed the monthly crate. It was about the only thing I had to look forward to month to month.
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Post by originalhuggies on Feb 2, 2024 13:27:52 GMT -5
I saw pictures of both a Sean Spears and a Tyler Breeze Brawler but never once saw where they were available for purchase.
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Post by crush on Feb 2, 2024 16:10:24 GMT -5
I saw pictures of both a Sean Spears and a Tyler Breeze Brawler but never once saw where they were available for purchase. I believe those were both sold on their own websites. Pretty sure Breeze was anyway. |
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Post by crush on Feb 2, 2024 16:12:37 GMT -5
RE: The bi-monthly crates, Im very curious to see how they approach the 2 Brawlers each crate. Will they be completely unrelated, one major star and one more niche, tag teams or rivals that are directly related, people who are tangentially related, a mix? Should be interesting.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 2, 2024 17:32:00 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. I only subscribe to the crate for the brawlers and pins. The rest is garbage. That garbage isn’t going to get any better and only gets worse over time. So, the only way to make the crate worth it is to include popular characters. Heavy hitters. Niche characters do not please a larger fanbase and subscriptions will dwindle even more. So would you like the suggestion I made they go for a brawler only crate? As I said in my earlier post most get the crates for the brawler or shirt (or in your example pin) and I think the days of monthly mystery boxes and crates etc are numbered as it is. A lot have already fell away and this one’s gone bi monthly. It’ll be quarterly next then eventually go imo. I would just go away from the crates entirely and have every brawler be made-to-order. That’s just my opinion though. Some people like the full experience of the crate and fine it to be worth the money. So keep it around for those people. I can always cancel mine and find them off eBay. I’m still buying brawlers one way or another, but I definitely won’t subscribe to a full crate of the brawlers are niche. |
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