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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Sept 11, 2015 13:33:43 GMT -5
I can remember Giant,Luger,Page and Steiners all together couldn't handle the NWO.
So being Realistic Sting shouldn't have been able to takeout the NWO on his own.
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Post by Sleazyness on Sept 11, 2015 13:40:12 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure what people expected. Do they want him be the focal point on the entire show? Should he be the WWE Champion till WM? Should he be wrestling every PPV? Should he be defeating Cena, Owens, Lesnar clean? Because the way I see it is, while Sting can still move well, there is no denying the man is 56 years old. He moves better than most 56 year old men, but he still shouldn't be over used at his age. He should not be the focal point. And he shouldn't be winning too many matches. If Sting was 35 years old and WWE wasn't pulling the trigger, a case could be made. But he's 56! We should be happy WWE is even willing to use him at this age. This. People tend to want that nostalgia again and trenchcoat Sting. What people aren't realizing, is he decided to do away with that gimmick a while ago. Why bring it back this day and age? The crow Sting was truly awesome but was ruined back in WCW and his fail of a title run back in 97. Like you stated man, the guy is old and he never said he wanted to be something major in the WWE. He said he wanted to wrestle in the WWE and that is what he is doing. People need to move on and get over it.
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Post by The IT Factor on Sept 11, 2015 15:48:02 GMT -5
No one wanted Sting to be the face of the WWE. But that's no excuse to book Sting like complete and utter garbage. There is no logical way anyone can defend this horrendous booking. On topic, I really don't know what people were expecting. Vince McMahon has proven many times in the past, that's he's a bitter, old bastard, who for some reason, still holds a grudge against WCW, so of course he'll do his best to crap on a guy who pretty much was WCW. Sting was worried for so long what WWE would do to his character should he sign with WWE, and his booking from his WM-now has proved that Sting should've never signed with WWE. So exactly how would you have booked him then? A) Have Sting beat Triple H at WrestleMania 31. There is no good reason why Sting didn't win his first match in WWE. B) Sting returns the night after SummerSlam to challenge Rollins for the belt, and The Authority will tell Sting "Screw you, we're not giving you your title match." Then have Vince McMahon come out, and since Vince would be a face in this scenario, he'll give Sting the title match. His reasoning? He respects Sting, he's had enough of Rollins' arrogance, and he's reminding The Authority that he runs the show. C) The Sting/Rollins feud would be about Rollins wanting to end Sting's legacy, and Sting wanting to win the one belt he never one: the WWE Championship. Don't make the feud about Seth's f*cking statue. Also, Sting wouldn't be Crow Sting, or Joker Sting. He'll have the same persona he had post-Crow Sting. D) Seth Rollins beats Sting at NOC. Clean, so Seth gets a big rub from beating Sting. E) Sting returns during the night after the Royal Rumble, and says that he understands that his career is coming to an end, and he wants to retire at WM32. He calls out Undertaker, challenges him to a match at WM, and win, lose, or draw, he's retiring after that match. It's not perfect, but then again I just thought of this from the top of my head. How is it special? The fact that he lost his first match, a match that he had no business losing? The fact that they turned him into Joker Sting, and have his first and only title match in WWE, be centered around a damn statue, when it should be about Sting going after the WWE Championship? There has been nothing special about Sting's run so far, it's just been bad booking.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Sept 11, 2015 15:58:25 GMT -5
I think Sting is really entertaining in his current role. What else would he be doing at this stage in his career?
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Post by greenjack1992 on Sept 11, 2015 16:10:45 GMT -5
You're right though, he looks like such a joke now: Compared to where he's been the last ten years:
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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 11, 2015 17:04:48 GMT -5
I keep seeing these statements about how Vince is bitter and will do anything to hold a guy like Sting down.
But I'll bet you when Vince signed on that dotted line, he gave Sting everything he wanted.
If you don't think Sting has creative control over his character and how he's being used then you're crazy. Sting has ALWAYS been about the business. If he thinks the booking is fine, we need to just roll with it.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 11, 2015 17:30:01 GMT -5
So exactly how would you have booked him then? A) Have Sting beat Triple H at WrestleMania 31. There is no good reason why Sting didn't win his first match in WWE. B) Sting returns the night after SummerSlam to challenge Rollins for the belt, and The Authority will tell Sting "Screw you, we're not giving you your title match." Then have Vince McMahon come out, and since Vince would be a face in this scenario, he'll give Sting the title match. His reasoning? He respects Sting, he's had enough of Rollins' arrogance, and he's reminding The Authority that he runs the show. C) The Sting/Rollins feud would be about Rollins wanting to end Sting's legacy, and Sting wanting to win the one belt he never one: the WWE Championship. Don't make the feud about Seth's f*cking statue. Also, Sting wouldn't be Crow Sting, or Joker Sting. He'll have the same persona he had post-Crow Sting. D) Seth Rollins beats Sting at NOC. Clean, so Seth gets a big rub from beating Sting. E) Sting returns during the night after the Royal Rumble, and says that he understands that his career is coming to an end, and he wants to retire at WM32. He calls out Undertaker, challenges him to a match at WM, and win, lose, or draw, he's retiring after that match. It's not perfect, but then again I just thought of this from the top of my head. You're right! It's not perfect by any stretch.
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Post by PJ on Sept 11, 2015 19:19:56 GMT -5
Why are people saying this is about Seth's statue? The statue like his promo where he built up Triple H and not Seth was mind games. And both Sting and Seth played it beautifully. Are people really that clueless to the world of professional wrestling and need someone to explain what is really happening? Reading some of these comments is like it was on these boards back when DB's storyline was leading up to WM30. In my mind I see the old Jericho promo with Cookie Monster on the titon tron when explaining wrestling to some people. lol
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Post by Mirror Images on Sept 12, 2015 8:31:38 GMT -5
I think he needs to have a couple more matches after night of champions (Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania) then retire and go in the hall of fame!
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Sept 12, 2015 8:35:15 GMT -5
Man called Sting!! Man called Sting!! He does this, he does that, he's big as a bull and he's quick as a cat! He looks fine, he looks cool, he's his own man and he's nobody's fool! Don't double cross him, or get in his way, cause if you do, you're gonna have to pay... To the Man called Sting, the Man Called Sting! He's a Man Called Sting, man Called Sting!
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Sept 12, 2015 8:51:27 GMT -5
Sting = Someone Rollins doesnt care about. An "antique" or whatever.
Statue= something Rollins cares about.
Sting is playing mind games and attacking Seths ego.
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Post by attitudesback on Sept 12, 2015 9:01:56 GMT -5
Sting is the reason the Authority will crumble. He's being used in a way that I hated at first, but to me it's clearly mind games and he will be the guy to ultimately end the Authority's love affair with Seth Rollins.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Sept 12, 2015 12:26:34 GMT -5
It hasn't been perfect, but I'm still happy with it. The only thing I think should have been different is he should have beat HHH. I also wish we could see him in more matches.
His work the last couple of weeks has been great though and I'm really excited to see him go against Rollins at NOC.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 20:20:08 GMT -5
Booker T says hi. People alway say Vince killed the WCW guys, but that's not true, WWE and WCW had a totally different fanbase, even at the end which is why WCW failed. WWE was always the more on the edge East Coast New Yorkah style wrestling, while WCW was the down south wrasslin. WCW tried to be edgy like the E but it wasn't what their core fans wanted. Hogan wasn't even close to as popular when arriving in WCW as he was in WWE they had to drastically change who he was to get a strong reaction for him. So when these guys who were huge come in WCW come to WCW sometimes their gimmicks don't get over like they did in WCW. Nothing about Steiner or Goldbergs gimmick changed at all when they came to WWE, fans just didn't care after the original fizz wore off. DDP was over huge towards the end of his run when he was doing his Positive Page gimmick, and injury to his backs what messed that up. And of course Stings not going to come down from the ceiling, remember Owen Hart? After his death Sting didn't even come from the raptors in WCW anymore. Sting came down from the raptors in tna at slammiversary in 2006 in Nashville. The "Raptors" at the Impact Zone and the raptors in an actual arena are two way different things.
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Post by ZDB on Sept 13, 2015 2:30:28 GMT -5
If Sting wanted a meaningful run he should've came over in 2002
He's lucky he has a title contender run at all in my mind
People are forgetting Sting was main eventing 20 years ago
Hang it up
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Sept 13, 2015 4:23:11 GMT -5
I am laughing at everyone saying Sting is misused. Did anyone watch Wrestlemania? He looked horrible (could barely move, balding) so what does everyone suggest that the WWE do with him? I think WWE was very high on him, saw what happened at Mania and realized he is pretty horrible now. True words. There's really nothing that can be done with man Sting's age except give him couple of special appearances. WWE can't turn back the clock and make him the explosive athlete that he was 30 years ago.
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Post by specterkev on Sept 13, 2015 16:13:02 GMT -5
No failure here,..they did exactly what they wanted to do... bury the last piece of WCW
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Post by madness86 on Sept 13, 2015 21:56:03 GMT -5
Vince still just wants to bury wcw even after all these years. If he'd just embrace it and get that wcw vibe going with guys like sting,Jericho,flair and who ever else he can dig up and make for a wcw styled stable I'd watch that a lot more than I do now
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Post by theMOESIAH on Sept 14, 2015 3:26:02 GMT -5
With the way he's been treated I really don't understand why he didn't sign with them after WCW went under. I doubt things souks have been that much worse.
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Post by dante123 on Sept 14, 2015 10:48:39 GMT -5
Sting came down from the raptors in tna at slammiversary in 2006 in Nashville. The "Raptors" at the Impact Zone and the raptors in an actual arena are two way different things. That was the municipal auditorium the same place that hosted starrcade 94,95, and 96. I wouldn't refer to that as the impact zone.
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