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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 5:14:27 GMT -5
Well they did what theyve done with every single wcw talent theyve ever brought in, they changed him. Vince changed/ruined nWo, goldberg, ddp, poppa pump, sting. Any major stars have flopped. The only ones vince changed for the better were mid card guys like jericho, eddy, rey. Back to sting. He rarely has his bat. He talks all the time. Often seen without trench coat. Never came from the ceiling. Bright entrance. Bad music. And when he loses to rollins itll be the last nail in the coffin. Rollins couldve had that last cena match with a broomstick, so itll be an ok match. Does anyone else expect raven when stings new music hits? Booker T says hi. People alway say Vince killed the WCW guys, but that's not true, WWE and WCW had a totally different fanbase, even at the end which is why WCW failed. WWE was always the more on the edge East Coast New Yorkah style wrestling, while WCW was the down south wrasslin. WCW tried to be edgy like the E but it wasn't what their core fans wanted. Hogan wasn't even close to as popular when arriving in WCW as he was in WWE they had to drastically change who he was to get a strong reaction for him. So when these guys who were huge come in WCW come to WCW sometimes their gimmicks don't get over like they did in WCW. Nothing about Steiner or Goldbergs gimmick changed at all when they came to WWE, fans just didn't care after the original fizz wore off. DDP was over huge towards the end of his run when he was doing his Positive Page gimmick, and injury to his backs what messed that up. And of course Stings not going to come down from the ceiling, remember Owen Hart? After his death Sting didn't even come from the raptors in WCW anymore.
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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Sept 11, 2015 5:42:44 GMT -5
So let me get this straight a 56 year old wrestling legend , gets shoehorned into the main event , and has a high chance of winning the world title and they call that being mistreated
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 5:55:44 GMT -5
Absolute bullshit.
Sting is getting nothing but great ovations and his ring work and current style are fitting with WWE's product perfectly right now. He's lost one match so far, due to outside interference. Yeah, he shouldn't have lost it, but who knows, maybe he agreed to lose it because they promised him a title run? Let's not get ahead of ourselves yet.
Sting should win on Sunday, because Seth is flailing as a champion, and it'll only add prestige to the title. Sting doesn't need the title, the title needs Sting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 6:29:01 GMT -5
First of all, I'm not reading this bait & click article that requires ten pages of clicking? Anyhow - I'm enjoying the Sting/Seth Rollins feud, and I totally expect Sting to lose... and I'm fine with it. Rollins will gain some much-needed credibility with old school fans with a victory over Sting, and Sting will headline (main event) a WWE show for the first time ever! I'm really looking forward to this match, regardless of the outcome.... I still have major issues with Sting losing to Hunter at 'Mania - and Sting would have a lot more momentum going into his title match if he'd just been booked to win at WrestleMania. Also - if they truly are building to a Hunter/Rollins feud - it would have made MUCH more sense to have Sting beat Hunter at 'Mania - then have Seth defeat Sting - "Look Hunter, I beat Sting when you couldn't!" I think it's fine that the Sting character has evolved & changed..... he'd been wearing the black trench coat since 1996.... IMO, there are so many guys wearing black these days, I kind of miss the "colorful" old days of the WWF.... the colorful Sting robes will make neat figures, anyway.... Sting's early (surfer) character was well known for being very colorful! It's a homage to his past to add some color to his attire! I do wish he used the bat a little more, though.... It doesn't look like it. Apparently (again, just rumours) Rollins/Cena is Main Eventing, and Sting/Rollins is opening.
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Post by PJ on Sept 11, 2015 6:30:03 GMT -5
First of all, I'm not reading this bait & click article that requires ten pages of clicking? Anyhow - I'm enjoying the Sting/Seth Rollins feud, and I totally expect Sting to lose... and I'm fine with it. Rollins will gain some much-needed credibility with old school fans with a victory over Sting, and Sting will headline (main event) a WWE show for the first time ever! I'm really looking forward to this match, regardless of the outcome.... I still have major issues with Sting losing to Hunter at 'Mania - and Sting would have a lot more momentum going into his title match if he'd just been booked to win at WrestleMania. Also - if they truly are building to a Hunter/Rollins feud - it would have made MUCH more sense to have Sting beat Hunter at 'Mania - then have Seth defeat Sting - "Look Hunter, I beat Sting when you couldn't!" I think it's fine that the Sting character has evolved & changed..... he'd been wearing the black trench coat since 1996.... IMO, there are so many guys wearing black these days, I kind of miss the "colorful" old days of the WWF.... the colorful Sting robes will make neat figures, anyway.... Sting's early (surfer) character was well known for being very colorful! It's a homage to his past to add some color to his attire! I do wish he used the bat a little more, though.... You didn't miss anything in that article. Most of it was pretty stupid. The only thing I remotely agreed with was having the WM match turn into DX vs NWO. I was enjoying the match up until that point and I would have rather had Sting win in a straight up 1 on 1 match. But what they did was still entertaining and not a failure at Mania. And on a personal note I wish he was using the music they used to promote him in 2K15. Other than that I have had no issues with how he is being used. But I must say if he is being used wrong than the WWE is really in trouble because him and Seth have been the best thing on the WWE. And while I do see Seth winning at NOC I do have to ask this for those complaining if they do have Sting win...For those saying if he wins it is unbelievable. How is it any less believable than Daniel Bryan beating Triple H, Orton and Batista and winning the WWE World Heavywight title at WM30? Or when people wanted Bryan headlining WM31 and beating Brock for the title?
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Post by PJ on Sept 11, 2015 6:55:47 GMT -5
It happened Sting walked out onto the ramp and looked into the eyes of the Universe that clamored every year for him to come where he belonged. He set up a program with the COO, Triple H. He attacked the Authority, looked strong going into the match. He had his first WrestleMania moment, with a special entrance and all. He lost with a sledgehammer shot by the Game He goes missing, and returns to battle for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship on PPV If this were five years ago, no one would have time to complain. This would be unreal. But yet everyone is disappointed. Sting isn't used weekly. He isn't wrestling. He lost his first match. It turned into WWF vs. WCW. He doesn't wear the coat and carry the bat. He talks too much. His hair is thin. "TNA used him better" Sting was in TNA for TEN YEARS. In ten years, John Cena won 15 world titles. Ten years is a LONG time. Stings days of wrestling week to week or even month to month are probably over, and they should be. He's winding it down. In my opinion, TNA over exposed Sting. Now he's getting paid to do what he should have been paid to do in TNA, make a ton of money and make sporadic appearances to promote special matches. I hope Sting wins the WWE Championship. It would be a true feel good moment. But if you really think a small company that gave Sting multiple world titles and weekly matches is in any way comparable to the WWE era, you're missing how cool it is to finally see this. At the next PPV, Sting is going for what was the WWE and World Heavyweight Championships. Let that sink in... Don't compare TNA and it's sinking ship to this. This is special. I moved this here, because it wasn't Classic and it fit with this topic.
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Post by Lewscher on Sept 11, 2015 6:56:13 GMT -5
Well they did what theyve done with every single wcw talent theyve ever brought in, they changed him. Vince changed/ruined nWo, goldberg, ddp, poppa pump, sting. Any major stars have flopped. The only ones vince changed for the better were mid card guys like jericho, eddy, rey. Back to sting. He rarely has his bat. He talks all the time. Often seen without trench coat. Never came from the ceiling. Bright entrance. Bad music. And when he loses to rollins itll be the last nail in the coffin. Rollins couldve had that last cena match with a broomstick, so itll be an ok match. Does anyone else expect raven when stings new music hits? Hold the on pal! There's more to Steve bordens on air personality, sting, than just the crow gimmick! Before that (in wcw) he had a personality remember? After wcw (in tna) he kept the crow LOOK but returned to his normal character and EVOLVED the gimmick, and kept on evolving himself within the 'sting' banner. Now this baseball bat trench coat silent sting you're moaning isnt in wwe (15-20!!! YEARS LATER!!!) Was a small marginal (however, INSANELY iconic) time period for that character at the time, ripping off or inspired from a simple cult movie, in mainstream media, that both wwe and wcw are guilty for implementing into their shows and/or talent. Im GLAD sting is talking, im STOKED he's using his confident sarcastic joking style (yes I hated joker sting, as a whole, but the insanity within sting [if made his own] is a beautiful concoction)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 7:01:39 GMT -5
The only thing I'd change about Sting's run so far is I'd've had him go over Triple H at WrestleMania.
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Post by Flair Forever on Sept 11, 2015 7:13:59 GMT -5
First of all, I'm not reading this bait & click article that requires ten pages of clicking? Anyhow - I'm enjoying the Sting/Seth Rollins feud, and I totally expect Sting to lose... and I'm fine with it. Rollins will gain some much-needed credibility with old school fans with a victory over Sting, and Sting will headline (main event) a WWE show for the first time ever! I'm really looking forward to this match, regardless of the outcome.... I still have major issues with Sting losing to Hunter at 'Mania - and Sting would have a lot more momentum going into his title match if he'd just been booked to win at WrestleMania. Also - if they truly are building to a Hunter/Rollins feud - it would have made MUCH more sense to have Sting beat Hunter at 'Mania - then have Seth defeat Sting - "Look Hunter, I beat Sting when you couldn't!" I think it's fine that the Sting character has evolved & changed..... he'd been wearing the black trench coat since 1996.... IMO, there are so many guys wearing black these days, I kind of miss the "colorful" old days of the WWF.... the colorful Sting robes will make neat figures, anyway.... Sting's early (surfer) character was well known for being very colorful! It's a homage to his past to add some color to his attire! I do wish he used the bat a little more, though.... It doesn't look like it. Apparently (again, just rumours) Rollins/Cena is Main Eventing, and Sting/Rollins is opening. Well that would be very, very stupid.... Sting/Rollins HAS to be the main event..... Sting's featured on the marketing/posters..... it's a flippin' World Title match! If Sting/Rollins opens, then WWE is even dumber than I thought - and I already thought they were pretty dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 7:29:45 GMT -5
At the end of the day, Sting has basically done it all and has nothing to prove to anyone. I'm sure he's enjoying the WWE spotlight the bigger paychecks. He's 56, he's likely having a blast
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Post by havoc7179 on Sept 11, 2015 8:26:50 GMT -5
Well they did what theyve done with every single wcw talent theyve ever brought in, they changed him. Vince changed/ruined nWo, goldberg, ddp, poppa pump, sting. Any major stars have flopped. The only ones vince changed for the better were mid card guys like jericho, eddy, rey. Back to sting. He rarely has his bat. He talks all the time. Often seen without trench coat. Never came from the ceiling. Bright entrance. Bad music. And when he loses to rollins itll be the last nail in the coffin. Rollins couldve had that last cena match with a broomstick, so itll be an ok match. Does anyone else expect raven when stings new music hits? Where to begin: 1) Sting stopped coming from the ceiling after Owen Hart's death. Rarely was he seen lurking in the rafters, and only once in TNA can I conclusively say was he lurking in the rafters. That was during TNA's failed attempt at creating a Monday Night War. Episode 1. 2) Sting stopped wearing his black trenchcoat years ago. As of Wrestlemania 31, he was still wearing his colored trenchcoat. He's been doing that since TNA 3) Sting was using a bright entrance in WCW. I don't know about you, but when I hear Metallica's Seek and Destroy, I don't think somber. I think let's get pumped up. 4) In 1998, Sting stopped bringing a bat to the ring all the time. No longer somber Sting in WWE : Wait that's WCW. Yeah, he's changed since 1997.
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Post by dante123 on Sept 11, 2015 8:29:25 GMT -5
Well they did what theyve done with every single wcw talent theyve ever brought in, they changed him. Vince changed/ruined nWo, goldberg, ddp, poppa pump, sting. Any major stars have flopped. The only ones vince changed for the better were mid card guys like jericho, eddy, rey. Back to sting. He rarely has his bat. He talks all the time. Often seen without trench coat. Never came from the ceiling. Bright entrance. Bad music. And when he loses to rollins itll be the last nail in the coffin. Rollins couldve had that last cena match with a broomstick, so itll be an ok match. Does anyone else expect raven when stings new music hits? Booker T says hi. People alway say Vince killed the WCW guys, but that's not true, WWE and WCW had a totally different fanbase, even at the end which is why WCW failed. WWE was always the more on the edge East Coast New Yorkah style wrestling, while WCW was the down south wrasslin. WCW tried to be edgy like the E but it wasn't what their core fans wanted. Hogan wasn't even close to as popular when arriving in WCW as he was in WWE they had to drastically change who he was to get a strong reaction for him. So when these guys who were huge come in WCW come to WCW sometimes their gimmicks don't get over like they did in WCW. Nothing about Steiner or Goldbergs gimmick changed at all when they came to WWE, fans just didn't care after the original fizz wore off. DDP was over huge towards the end of his run when he was doing his Positive Page gimmick, and injury to his backs what messed that up. And of course Stings not going to come down from the ceiling, remember Owen Hart? After his death Sting didn't even come from the raptors in WCW anymore. Sting came down from the raptors in tna at slammiversary in 2006 in Nashville.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 11, 2015 8:40:21 GMT -5
The only thing I'd change about Sting's run so far is I'd've had him go over Triple H at WrestleMania. Yep. In fact, I'd go so far as to say everything Sting has been great so far beyond letting HHH win. I'm loving his stuff with Rollins and think Rollins will make him look good at NOCs. I mean Survivor Series was absolutely phenomenal. One of the coolest moments of all time imo. I thought, while a little nonsensical, that the MNW run-ins at Mania were pretty cool too. However, if Sting pins HHH, we get that handshake and we're in this exact same spot, Sting would have been used perfectly. Whatever. How many of you even watched WCW, so let us get real here with the entitlement. Maybe it's a nostalgia ride but I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I've been a Sting fan for damn near my entire wrestling fandom life and I'm not about to stop supporting him now because he's gotten older and WWE isn't booking him in iron man matches with Cesaro every week. Also, if you're going to plug an article, maybe take the time to have it actually be an article. I've written responses to Rosa Mendes longer than that sh*t.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Sept 11, 2015 11:30:18 GMT -5
I am laughing at everyone saying Sting is misused. Did anyone watch Wrestlemania? He looked horrible (could barely move, balding) so what does everyone suggest that the WWE do with him? I think WWE was very high on him, saw what happened at Mania and realized he is pretty horrible now.
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Post by J12 on Sept 11, 2015 11:38:48 GMT -5
The whole Sting thing is relatively simple to me:
WWE doesn't think Sting is as important to pro wrestling as die hard fans do. This, in turn, makes the die-hard fans angry at how he's being used, and the casual audience think that Sting isn't all that important. WWE sees this and believes their assumption is correct (whether it is or isn't is a topic for another discussion) and so they feel justified in their handling of him. And also, just the general line of "WWE=good, WCW=bad" kind of thinking.
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Post by ohernan6 on Sept 11, 2015 12:03:07 GMT -5
So let me get this straight a 56 year old wrestling legend , gets shoehorned into the main event , and has a high chance of winning the world title and they call that being mistreated Exactly. Also, I'm not reading that stupid article. The first page was lame and there's no way I'm sitting through some dork's 10 page rant on why WWE sucks... I see nothing wrong with what Sting is doing so far on RAW. I'm actually excited to see him and I think it'll be great to see him main event Night of Champions. Even though Sting and his hair are old as hell, he's still an important figure and if Rollins wins, it's a great rub from a prominent veteran.
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Post by iamkrang on Sept 11, 2015 12:10:57 GMT -5
It's 2015 and the main event of a PPV is a 30-year-old Crossfit guru vs. a 56-year-old man in makeup at a time where the talent pool is deep enough to start pushing new, ing talented guys to the main event. Wait are you saying Rollins isn't talented / shouldn't be in his spot Or am I just distorting it based on how you typed it.
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Post by PJ on Sept 11, 2015 12:22:51 GMT -5
I am laughing at everyone saying Sting is misused. Did anyone watch Wrestlemania? He looked horrible (could barely move, balding) so what does everyone suggest that the WWE do with him? I think WWE was very high on him, saw what happened at Mania and realized he is pretty horrible now. While I don't think he is being misused. He was far from horrible at Mania. The only thing wrong with the Wrestlemania match besides his entrance music was they added DX and the NWO to it. That match should have stayed a straight up one on one match with Sting winning. As for his music if not Metallica it should have been the music they used to promote him in the 2K15 game. But again I don't think he is being misused. Other than losing at Maina with the NWO and DX he has been fantastic in his role in the WWE. And right now he and Seth program is the most entertaining thing happening in the WWE right now.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Sept 11, 2015 12:52:06 GMT -5
I don't understand why people keep saying why a 56 year old man can't beat a 30 something year old. In the wrestling world anything is possibly and who's to say a 56 can't beat someone younger in a legit fight? Also, for those who said he stopped using the rafter entrance after Owen died, you guys are wrong he used the entrance several times after. I would understand not using because it would be in bad taste in the wwe but I would love a rafter segment. There's no harm in that and would be an awesome nostalgic moment. I don't mind the entrance music although I wish it had more of that sweet guitar riff but the entrance needs something in my opinion, maybe some smoke, lightning, or some pyro like WM 31. I'm pumped for sunday and hope Sting wins!
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Post by PJ on Sept 11, 2015 13:00:43 GMT -5
It's not this Sunday, but the following Sunday right? Nine days from today.
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