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Post by Todd Pettengill on Aug 8, 2015 14:15:10 GMT -5
Perhaps, couldn't hurt. Another thing, Owens hasn't won any matches at all since the week of Money in The Bank, well over a month and a half ago. That's horrible, and he's going to lose at Takeover, and he'll more than likely lose to Cesaro at summerslamIts a shame. WWE are experts at booking matches that involve two guys who DON'T need a loss.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 8, 2015 14:31:48 GMT -5
"I hate that guy! He's fat! Let's put him over Cena clean on his debut!"
It's nonsense clickbait speculation designed to play up the HHH vs Vince/Dunn feud that exists in the heads of children.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 14:57:55 GMT -5
That's horrible, and he's going to lose at Takeover, and he'll more than likely lose to Cesaro at summerslamIts a shame. WWE are experts at booking matches that involve two guys who DON'T need a loss. Who would they wrestle against otherwise? The problem is that anyone that they could beat are guys that WWE doesn't even see as "worthy" of being on the Summerslam card
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 8, 2015 15:12:31 GMT -5
Vince: "You need to be bigger, more larger then life looking with bulking muscles!
Wrestler: Uses steroids and gets busted
Vince: We wish you the best in your future endeavors. We never condone the usage of Performance Enhancing drugs.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Aug 8, 2015 15:18:31 GMT -5
Its a shame. WWE are experts at booking matches that involve two guys who DON'T need a loss. Who would they wrestle against otherwise? The problem is that anyone that they could beat are guys that WWE doesn't even see as "worthy" of being on the Summerslam card You're absolutely right. Its WWE being content with riding on cruise control and not attempting to make anything or anyone that people want to see and the things the people do want to see WWE drops the ball on it or end it as quickly as they can.
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Post by slappy on Aug 8, 2015 15:21:44 GMT -5
If they booked solely on looks then Ryback would be a multi-time World Champion by now.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 8, 2015 17:58:04 GMT -5
WWE doesn't like "overweight" wrestlers so they kill Kevin Owens push. Buuuuut they keep sticking Mark Henry and Big Show into MAJOR storylines and giving them Title matches despite the fact that they are both fatter than Kevin Owens, are in their 40's, and were never good in the ring to begin with. Kevin Dunn and Vince McMahon just play favorites and there is not rhyme or reason to it. It's probably not becuase Owens is overweight, it's probably because just like Punk and Bryan, STEEN is an INDY GUY and Vince McMahon doesn't like when he didn't MAKE a guy. If any wrestler in the world has any bit of popularity or recognition without the WWE, Vince McMahon gets all butthurt and dislikes the guy because Vince McMahon thinks he makes or breaks the entire wrestling business. Vince McMahon didn't even think STING was popular until he came to the WWE. Not having that. Henry is still a solid hand and was great in his prime, and Show was really athletic at one point.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Aug 8, 2015 22:38:29 GMT -5
"I hate that guy! He's fat! Let's put him over Cena clean on his debut!" It's nonsense clickbait speculation designed to play up the HHH vs Vince/Dunn feud that exists in the heads of children. They did say that he's got HHH on his side, which we already knew. It's possible that was Mr. H's doing and Vince and Kevin took over from there.
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Post by sean™ on Aug 8, 2015 22:55:36 GMT -5
Shawn wasn't the number 1? What?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 9, 2015 3:09:51 GMT -5
"I hate that guy! He's fat! Let's put him over Cena clean on his debut!" It's nonsense clickbait speculation designed to play up the HHH vs Vince/Dunn feud that exists in the heads of children. They did say that he's got HHH on his side, which we already knew. It's possible that was Mr. H's doing and Vince and Kevin took over from there. So Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn have a weird grudge against Triple H, NXT and fat guys, and somehow they just magically allow Triple H book Kevin Owens to beat John Cena clean? Did HHH cast a spell on them that only lasted a week or something? Maybe it's part of a WWE crossover promotion with the upcoming Harry Potter spin-off.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Aug 9, 2015 4:02:20 GMT -5
They did say that he's got HHH on his side, which we already knew. It's possible that was Mr. H's doing and Vince and Kevin took over from there. So Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn have a weird grudge against Triple H, NXT and fat guys, and somehow they just magically allow Triple H book Kevin Owens to beat John Cena clean? Did HHH cast a spell on them that only lasted a week or something? Maybe it's part of a WWE crossover promotion with the upcoming Harry Potter spin-off. I'm suggesting that maybe HHH went to bat for Kevin Owens and fought hard for a huge debut but once he got to the main brand Vince and Kevin had second thoughts and put a halt to his push. And yes, I do think they have a weird grudge against fat guys or most anyone that doesn't look like a 6' bodybuilder.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Aug 9, 2015 4:06:21 GMT -5
Who would they wrestle against otherwise? The problem is that anyone that they could beat are guys that WWE doesn't even see as "worthy" of being on the Summerslam card You're absolutely right. Its WWE being content with riding on cruise control and not attempting to make anything or anyone that people want to see and the things the people do want to see WWE drops the ball on it or end it as quickly as they can. That's what not having any real competition will do.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 9, 2015 4:15:07 GMT -5
I'm suggesting that maybe HHH went to bat for Kevin Owens and fought hard for a huge debut but once he got to the main brand Vince and Kevin had second thoughts and put a halt to his push. Why would they? I guess that's why Shawn Michaels got buried so much.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Aug 9, 2015 4:54:16 GMT -5
I'm suggesting that maybe HHH went to bat for Kevin Owens and fought hard for a huge debut but once he got to the main brand Vince and Kevin had second thoughts and put a halt to his push. Why would they? I guess that's why Shawn Michaels got buried so much. 1. It wouldn't be the first time a guy got a push and then it just randomly stopped. 2. I said most. And a major factor into smaller guys like Bret and Shawn getting pushed into the main event was the steroid trial. They needed to de-emphasize (spelling?) the steroid guys.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 9, 2015 5:57:33 GMT -5
Why would they? I guess that's why Shawn Michaels got buried so much. 1. It wouldn't be the first time a guy got a push and then it just randomly stopped. I guess we'll have to wait and see if it randomly stops anytime soon.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Aug 9, 2015 6:01:54 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me if Vince is reigning in HHH on the NXT guys. Just like Punk and Daniel Bryan, Owens is a normal looking guy who you wouldn't notice on the street if he wasn't a wrestler. He's not particularly tall, and he's not made of shredded muscle. Ergo, if he's going to become a true main eventer, he'll have to get the fans to force Vinny Mac's hand like Punk and Bryan did.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 6:48:21 GMT -5
The whole look argument lost all of it's merit when Daniel Bryan beat Triple H, Randy Orton, and Batista all in the same WrestleMania and walked out with both titles.
Owens debuted against Cena. Beat Cena. Lost the feud though. But unless he either keeps feuding with Cena or challenges for the WWE title, then anything else is a clear step down.
Calm down kids, everything will be okay.
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Post by bab2781 on Aug 9, 2015 10:03:05 GMT -5
It's obvious Vince & company are stuck in the past. That's the number one reason there company is sinking. They do not no how to create superstars no more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 10:12:01 GMT -5
I'm wouldn't be surprised if Vince doesn't want to push a tub of lard as a babyface. It sets a bad example to kids that they can be fat s too. Whether Owens is skilled or not doesn't really matter. The guy should definitely lose some weight.
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Post by Fave on Aug 9, 2015 12:00:15 GMT -5
Owens already talked about his weight on Jerichos podcast. Maybe it was on the Sam Roberts show. He's just a big guy naturally. He's lost weight and that's about as small as he's gonna get. I'll admit his belly is a bit bigger than it was on NXT so sure I bet he could lose another 10-15 lbs but I don't know why ya'll think you know how hard he works out. You don't. His matches prove how clueless people who base his abilities on his look are.
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