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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 15:18:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry I don't wanna sound like a prick but from others responses he seems to have rubbed everyone the wrong way. Yep, he did. But I am one to give many chances, to try to build a better place. The more people, the better the chance at least one person of the crop steps out and becomes pretty good. **shrugs** I do praise you for that sir. Just people shouldn't take advantage of your gratitude.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 23, 2014 15:24:48 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong - people can change. Few people remember Prog's run as Randel Benjamin when he was new and flakey, because he did a full 180 and took advice and gave something to the group as well. He didn't need 30 chances to make that change though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 15:27:46 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong - people can change. Few people remember Prog's run as Randel Benjamin when he was new and flakey, because he did a full 180 and took advice and gave something to the group as well. He didn't need 30 chances to make that change though. <3 I'll just say, that if someone wants to make change bad enough, they will do their damndest to fulfill that. Work hard, respect others, read lots and you'll do fine in an e-fed. All it basically is like life, get with the right people and you will get better because of it.
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Post by Markw on Feb 23, 2014 15:34:50 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong - people can change. Few people remember Prog's run as Randel Benjamin when he was new and flakey, because he did a full 180 and took advice and gave something to the group as well. He didn't need 30 chances to make that change though. <3 I'll just say, that if someone wants to make change bad enough, they will do their damndest to fulfill that. Work hard, respect others, read lots and you'll do fine in an e-fed. All it basically is like life, get with the right people and you will get better because of it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 15:38:05 GMT -5
<3 I'll just say, that if someone wants to make change bad enough, they will do their damndest to fulfill that. Work hard, respect others, read lots and you'll do fine in an e-fed. All it basically is like life, get with the right people and you will get better because of it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 17:08:31 GMT -5
Hahaha now that's hilarious
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 27, 2014 0:40:00 GMT -5
Well 11/16. Not too shabby, all things considered. I approve of it.
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Post by Markw on Feb 27, 2014 5:51:47 GMT -5
Even though I don't have the power to do so, I'm granting a 24 hour extension to Yukio and I guess anyone else who wants it.
(Shawn asked if it's okay via PM and myself and Proggy have both agreed to it, sounds like Dex needs it as well so I figured I may as well post here that it's happening as Shawn is probably offline. Feel free to delete this if that's not the case).
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Post by slappy on Feb 27, 2014 6:27:18 GMT -5
To be completely honest, what is the point of having a set deadline if it gets extended every time (or just about every time)?
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 27, 2014 11:46:01 GMT -5
Even though I don't have the power to do so, I'm granting a 24 hour extension to Yukio and I guess anyone else who wants it. (Shawn asked if it's okay via PM and myself and Proggy have both agreed to it, sounds like Dex needs it as well so I figured I may as well post here that it's happening as Shawn is probably offline. Feel free to delete this if that's not the case). Well you did not tell me till 6 hours AFTER the deadline, and Dex never got back to me so I could not do it. No extension. If it does not come from me and Trace, it does not happen. To be completely honest, what is the point of having a set deadline if it gets extended every time (or just about every time)? Exactly. Believe me, I get that people get busy. But here is the problem. Say we make the deadline 11 days (which is the extended deadline) instead of 10. I have been doing this way long enough to know that people still ask for an extension even with the extra day. We have to draw a line somewhere.
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Post by Markw on Feb 27, 2014 11:59:38 GMT -5
Even though I don't have the power to do so, I'm granting a 24 hour extension to Yukio and I guess anyone else who wants it. (Shawn asked if it's okay via PM and myself and Proggy have both agreed to it, sounds like Dex needs it as well so I figured I may as well post here that it's happening as Shawn is probably offline. Feel free to delete this if that's not the case). Well you did not tell me till 6 hours AFTER the deadline, and Dex never got back to me so I could not do it. No extension. If it does not come from me and Trace, it does not happen. To be completely honest, what is the point of having a set deadline if it gets extended every time (or just about every time)? Exactly. Believe me, I get that people get busy. But here is the problem. Say we make the deadline 11 days (which is the extended deadline) instead of 10. I have been doing this way long enough to know that people still ask for an extension even with the extra day. We have to draw a line somewhere. Sorry. Me and Proggy were fine with it and Dex also asked for an extension (in a message you weren't involved in). I didn't reply because I was sleeping but I assumed as everyone was fine with it, it would be granted. Apologies.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 27, 2014 12:33:56 GMT -5
I'm confused. Are extensions now being agreed upon by non-owners?
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Post by Markw on Feb 27, 2014 13:06:51 GMT -5
I'm confused. Are extensions now being agreed upon by non-owners? Shawn asked, everyone he'd asked said it was fine. As he was away I figured it would give people more time. I don't think it's unfair to assume an extension is going to be given when everyone asked has agreed to it.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 27, 2014 13:17:50 GMT -5
I'm confused. Are extensions now being agreed upon by non-owners? Shawn asked, everyone he'd asked said it was fine. As he was away I figured it would give people more time. I don't think it's unfair to assume an extension is going to be given when everyone asked has agreed to it. Nah, still lost. User names - who the hell is "Shawn"? Bear in mind that not everyone here is on a first name basis. Even still, I'll admit I kind of raised an eyebrow when anyone but one of the owners came in and said "Im granting an extension". That just betrays any sort of order. Keep down that path, and nothing will get accomplished.
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Post by Rated R on Feb 27, 2014 13:24:05 GMT -5
So to clarify what's happening here, and I'm keeping it short, Yukio asked for an extension with a good reason but other guys in the match had already posted a RP. I said that if they were fine with letting him have the extension, since some might not due to the advantage extra time can give, then he could have it because, like I said, he had a good enough reason. So Bishop wasn't granting the extension, we were, he just kind of brought it up for the reasons he said.
Of course I am with Brennan on this one in that the owners alone should announce extensions.
Now since we're talking about extensions it's clear that we need to do some work on our extension policy. Back when we put in the hard work to reduce the time between cards and results, and I think we've succeeded to some degree there, I was pretty adamant about stopping extensions. That hasn't happened to the extent I would have liked so we'll have to look at it. I like the idea Brennan posted in the general discussion and I think it's worth considering. I'm also willing to listen to any other ideas people might have.
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 27, 2014 13:36:37 GMT -5
I'm confused. Are extensions now being agreed upon by non-owners? Shawn asked, everyone he'd asked said it was fine. As he was away I figured it would give people more time. I don't think it's unfair to assume an extension is going to be given when everyone asked has agreed to it. How about everyone tells me it was fine? Makes life easier if you tell me instead of telling it amongst yourselves. I heard from Prog immediately. You only told me you were ok with it six hours after the fact. Dex NEVER responded to me. Hell, he never even told me HE needed an extension. Message here: me and Trace are the owners. We need to be informed of these things. You keep it amongst yourselves, and us in the dark, how can anyone expect us to make a decision on a question we are not aware of? Shawn asked, everyone he'd asked said it was fine. As he was away I figured it would give people more time. I don't think it's unfair to assume an extension is going to be given when everyone asked has agreed to it. Nah, still lost. User names - who the hell is "Shawn"? Bear in mind that not everyone here is on a first name basis. Even still, I'll admit I kind of raised an eyebrow when anyone but one of the owners came in and said "Im granting an extension". That just betrays any sort of order. Keep down that path, and nothing will get accomplished. I am Shawn. Shawn Malakai, character name, Shawn is also my real name. Most likely when someone says that here, they mean me. And for the record, I completely agree with you.
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Post by Markw on Feb 27, 2014 13:59:11 GMT -5
Shawn asked, everyone he'd asked said it was fine. As he was away I figured it would give people more time. I don't think it's unfair to assume an extension is going to be given when everyone asked has agreed to it. Nah, still lost. User names - who the hell is "Shawn"? Bear in mind that not everyone here is on a first name basis. Even still, I'll admit I kind of raised an eyebrow when anyone but one of the owners came in and said "Im granting an extension". That just betrays any sort of order. Keep down that path, and nothing will get accomplished. I assume you've never called Prophet Of Ash Obo then? Never called Rated R Trace? Never called Proggy Crow? Never called me Bishop? Then don't be a dick about me calling L.L.L.B.D Shawn, the name of his character. With the information in front of me it was a fair assumption. I was trying to give people more time/trying to help. The first part of my post was clearly tongue in cheek and I did say that if it wasn't the case then the owners could delete it. This is a huge overreaction.
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Post by Markw on Feb 27, 2014 15:00:51 GMT -5
Shawn asked, everyone he'd asked said it was fine. As he was away I figured it would give people more time. I don't think it's unfair to assume an extension is going to be given when everyone asked has agreed to it. How about everyone tells me it was fine? Makes life easier if you tell me instead of telling it amongst yourselves. I heard from Prog immediately. You only told me you were ok with it six hours after the fact. Dex NEVER responded to me. Hell, he never even told me HE needed an extension. Message here: me and Trace are the owners. We need to be informed of these things. You keep it amongst yourselves, and us in the dark, how can anyone expect us to make a decision on a question we are not aware of? Right back at my laptop so I'll try and clear this up, I think it's been blown out of all proportion to be honest. When I woke up and eventually logged on I had two message alerts. One a conversation started by you where Proggy had agreed to the extension. One started by Yukio where Dex had said he also needed an extension (I had no idea you weren't involved in the conversation and I had no idea Dex hadn't talked to you). I obviously hadn't replied to you in the six hours because I'm British and was asleep, an accident of birth and one I don't think you can really blame me for. I was aware that I had held things up for six hours (with what was in front of me it seemed obvious that an extension would be granted as soon as I responded - surely you can see why that is), I was also aware that based on time zones you were probably asleep and so nothing would be done for another 6/7 hours. In an attempt to make up for the fact that I'd held things up (again accident of birth) I said that an extension was in place (again seemed perfectly logical) so that anyone who needed it wouldn't have to wait for you to come on about 7 hours after and announce it. I clarified at the time why I thought the extension was in place and asked for it to be deleted if that wasn't the case. I was only trying to help and I think as I've leaped to the defence of you and Trace plenty of times when arguments have come up on here, it was pretty obvious that I was in no way trying to undermine either of you. Edit: Not to mention the fact that if you'd just told me to check or ignore my PMs when we were talking this morning then the whole situation would have been avoided.
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Post by Dex on Feb 27, 2014 16:09:11 GMT -5
So...
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 27, 2014 17:01:32 GMT -5
Nah, still lost. User names - who the hell is "Shawn"? Bear in mind that not everyone here is on a first name basis. Even still, I'll admit I kind of raised an eyebrow when anyone but one of the owners came in and said "Im granting an extension". That just betrays any sort of order. Keep down that path, and nothing will get accomplished. I assume you've never called Prophet Of Ash Obo then? Never called Rated R Trace? Never called Proggy Crow? Never called me Bishop? Then don't be a dick about me calling L.L.L.B.D Shawn, the name of his character. With the information in front of me it was a fair assumption. I was trying to give people more time/trying to help. The first part of my post was clearly tongue in cheek and I did say that if it wasn't the case then the owners could delete it. This is a huge overreaction. Whoa, there killer. I wasn't trying to step on your toes with that whole "clarifying who you meant" thing. Let me go ahead and apologize for not having an encyclopedic knowledge of who's who and what we're calling them this week. Let me slap on my Willy Wonka hat here, too, and apologize for not busting out my sugar coating brush and letting that "hell" slip through the cracks. I gotta confess though, I did get a good chuckle over you using the same post in which you called me a dick to knock everyone over for "overreacting". As demonstrated, I'm capable of being pretty neutral, or as you put it and and as shown here, a "dick". Slow your roll, lest you make yourself look more the fool.
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