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Post by punksnotdead on May 31, 2012 12:33:14 GMT -5
Vince giving Owen the Blue Blazer gimmick back in 1999. This. Speaking of Own, I would have booked Owen to beat Bret as WWF Champion at Survivor Series 94. Outside of that, I would have probably let Raven play his Se7en angle out on Raw, wherein he would have had micdard gold for about 6 solid months. Either that, or I would have had Goldberg feud with Raven and the Flock for at least 2-3 months while Raven was US Champion. Not sure if it would have elevated him in WCW, but at least he would have looked better.
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Post by Roadie Codes on May 31, 2012 14:18:50 GMT -5
I would want Kurt Angle to have stayed in WWE.
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Post by China Claus on May 31, 2012 14:29:15 GMT -5
Instead of Rock vs. Hogan at WMX8, should've been Austin vs. Hogan. Same goes for WMXX. Should've been Goldberg vs. Austin instead of Lesnar. Those were my two biggest disappointments. Now, we'll probably never see these two dream matches.
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Post by hammer on May 31, 2012 15:14:08 GMT -5
If there was one moment in history that you wish you could change what would it be? It can be anything. A match, the outcome of a match, a debut, whatever. Mine would have to be the Steve Austin/Shawn Michaels match from Wrestlemania 14. Now it's not because I didn't like the outcome of the match or that I didn't enjoy the match. It's the fact that Shawn was darn near crippled already. I would change that fact and have him be able to go another 20-25 minutes. I believe the 2 of them could have told a great story that night had Shawn been healthy enough to do so. They could have went for 35-40 minutes having a great back and forth and then they(as usual in those matches) knock the ref down with a super kick then DX runs down and Tyson stops them from interfering. Shawn sees this and gets pissed at Tyson and does the whole grab the shoulder and turn them around move and he clocks HBK with a right hand and knocks him into a Stone Cold Stunner and Austin gets the pinfall with Tyson counting. But of course that's all wishful thinking. Circumstances being what they were though they had a pretty good match. austin needed that win clean. it was the change of the guard if you will, they were moving towards the austin era, and having him beat michaels cheaply wouldve been a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 15:24:46 GMT -5
Have somebody talk sense into Bret and Vince in 1997 to keep Bret in WWF. This would prevent Montreal Screwjob, Bret's concussions/stroke, most likely Owen's death and Davey Boy's back injury and drug problem which led to his death. Bottom Line: Keep Bret in WWF to prevent disaster. It'd also prevent the birth of the Mr McMahon character and the attitude era. The WWF would have gone out of business by 1999, WCW would have still died by about 2003, there would be no wrestling industry anymore. Every former wrestler would either be dead or wandering around in a crackhead daze right now. Careful what you wish for. I disagree. Although we might not have had the Mr. McMahon character, I still feel that business as a whole was still picking up around this time and Stone Cold/Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels/D-X/Mankind/Undertaker/Etc. were hot enough that WWF could have competed with WCW. We'll never know I guess but I still think WWF would have succeeded if Bret stuck around.
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Post by threehgame on Jun 1, 2012 0:35:49 GMT -5
It'd also prevent the birth of the Mr McMahon character and the attitude era. The WWF would have gone out of business by 1999, WCW would have still died by about 2003, there would be no wrestling industry anymore. Every former wrestler would either be dead or wandering around in a crackhead daze right now. Careful what you wish for. I disagree. Although we might not have had the Mr. McMahon character, I still feel that business as a whole was still picking up around this time and Stone Cold/Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels/D-X/Mankind/Undertaker/Etc. were hot enough that WWF could have competed with WCW. We'll never know I guess but I still think WWF would have succeeded if Bret stuck around. I agree with bashcrashwiley to a point. Austin would have had Bret to play off of and someone else to play stick in the mud, anti-attitude guy. Wrestling was taking off due to the overall content. There could be a question if the industry could stay around without Vince as an on-air talent.
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Post by specterkev on Jun 1, 2012 23:27:55 GMT -5
Vince Buying WCW. only good of it is that he has theuir old library..
WCW was not in that good of shape but I think they could have pulled out of it eventually,..but that moron who don't know crapabout wrestling, Jamie Kellner , cancelled WCW.
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Post by Lithium on Jun 2, 2012 13:41:00 GMT -5
Kevin Nash going over Goldberg at Starrcade '98. With Goldberg retaining the title we wouldn't have gotten the dibacle that was the Fingerpoke of Doom.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2012 16:53:44 GMT -5
Kevin Nash going over Goldberg at Starrcade '98. With Goldberg retaining the title we wouldn't have gotten the dibacle that was the Fingerpoke of Doom. yeah good one.WCW never recovered from Jan 4th 99.the groundwork for their fall was laid in 98 though.everything was still massively popular but they hadnt planned ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2012 16:57:45 GMT -5
Kevin Nash going over Goldberg at Starrcade '98. With Goldberg retaining the title we wouldn't have gotten the dibacle that was the Fingerpoke of Doom. yeah good one.WCW never recovered from Jan 4th 99.the groundwork for their fall was laid in 98 though.everything was still massively popular but they hadnt planned ahead. I think the groundwork for their fall was then they gave Hogan, Hall, and Nash creative control over their contracts.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 2, 2012 17:46:35 GMT -5
Besides doing anything that would have saved lives, its a tie between a few things...
- Rock wins clean at WM17. Rock wins and Austin snaps the next night on Raw, joins McMahon, and "steals" the world title.
- Christian gets a main event push in 2005. I'm a huge peep and the guy was gold in 2005. He should have been in main events but instead was thrown into a quick triple threat match for the title, lost, and was quickl pushed to the bottom of SD. He deserved to win a world title before Edge.
- Hogan vs Flair WM8. Wouldn't have been a classic like Flair/Savage, but this was the dream match everyone wanted to see. The two very best all around performers in the 80s going at it on the biggest stage of em all. Huge missed opportunity.
- Owen Hart wins world title at survivor series 1994. Why the hell did Backlund win the title when Owen was the most over heel in the company?
- Yoko walks out as world champ at WM9. Hogan should have been no where near the main event. Yoko wins, and then drops it back to Bret at WM10.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2012 21:25:06 GMT -5
Agreed with above.
They should have either given Yoko the push at WM 9 or just let Bret go over to send the crowd home happy.
Hogan coming back and winning sucked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 5:49:43 GMT -5
yeah good one.WCW never recovered from Jan 4th 99.the groundwork for their fall was laid in 98 though.everything was still massively popular but they hadnt planned ahead. I think the groundwork for their fall was then they gave Hogan, Hall, and Nash creative control over their contracts. maybe but 1998 was where the real damge was done.mishandling of Bret and Sting.....and when the celebs went home?they clearly had no plan.
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Post by twinn on Jun 3, 2012 15:34:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure how I would have done this, but I would have kept The Ultimate Warrior from being a douche bag after Summerslam 91 and getting himself fired. He would have just stayed in the WWF non-stop until about 95 or 96 and then either went over to WCW or just retired.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 3, 2012 16:19:31 GMT -5
Another I thought of was having Hogan/Warrior 2 at WM7. Sgt. Slaughter was mearly a transitional champ whose gimmick was old even before his 2 month title reign was over. Hogan/Warrior, while not remembered for its in ring stuff, is still revered as one of the greatest moments in wrestling history when Warrior went over Hogan. There rematch would have been just as big, and that way we wouldn't have had to see Savage retire for a bit.
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Post by twinn on Jun 3, 2012 16:31:22 GMT -5
Another I thought of was having Hogan/Warrior 2 at WM7. Sgt. Slaughter was mearly a transitional champ whose gimmick was old even before his 2 month title reign was over. Hogan/Warrior, while not remembered for its in ring stuff, is still revered as one of the greatest moments in wrestling history when Warrior went over Hogan. There rematch would have been just as big, and that way we wouldn't have had to see Savage retire for a bit. This would have been cool, but Savage and Warrior's match was pretty awesome and it would have been a shame to miss out on that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 16:35:07 GMT -5
Vince Buying WCW. only good of it is that he has theuir old library.. WCW was not in that good of shape but I think they could have pulled out of it eventually,..but that moron who don't know crap about wrestling, Jamie Kellner , cancelled WCW. I have to agree. WCW was still putting on some great matches in 00/01. I would have liked to seen them continue.
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Post by Scott! on Jun 8, 2012 15:44:34 GMT -5
As he said in his DVD, I'd have Steve Austin stun vince at the end of wm17.
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Post by LeighD on Jun 8, 2012 20:03:57 GMT -5
I think the groundwork for their fall was then they gave Hogan, Hall, and Nash creative control over their contracts. maybe but 1998 was where the real damge was done.mishandling of Bret and Sting.....and when the celebs went home?they clearly had no plan. I think at Halloween Havoc 1998 was the beginning of WCW's downfall and it was actually somewaht symbolic. Sting vs. Bret SHOULD have been a semi-main event with a CLASSIC match-up. Anyone remember any significance of that match? Warrior vs. Hogan a rematch of historic proportions yet it is oftened looked upon a joke of a match. Hall vs. Nash, tag team titles, Rick vs. Scott, etc. They had a STACKED card on paper, but on PPV it just didn't turnout as well. However DDP vs. Goldberg was a gem of a match. But the feed for the event was killed shortly into the match and was aired for free the next night. It seems from then on WCW started to fall.
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Post by threehgame on Jun 9, 2012 0:10:19 GMT -5
However DDP vs. Goldberg was a gem of a match. But the feed for the event was killed shortly into the match and was aired for free the next night. It seems from then on WCW started to fall. I disagree. I put the start of the fall with the bad ending of Starrcade 97. Amazing build up and then a crappy finish. Sting should have gone over Hogan clean and turned his back on WCW and the nWo. Imagine the build to a Sting/Goldberg PPV in mid to late 1998, after which Hogan could return and Sting could go back to normal.
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