Paul Orndorff Slams Bret Hart, Warrior, Ric Flair

[hulkhogancollector]

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Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff was a guest on Inside The Ropes' 15th episode, where he talked about several topics and slammed a few legendary wrestlers. His interview stars 42 minutes, 20 seconds in.

On facing Ric Flair for the NWA World Title in 1982: "He was just another body. Some are better than others. I believed in making it look real. I was probably hard to work with because I wanted it to make real and I knew how to wrestle."

On working the first Wrestlemania in the main event: "It was special. There were so many people. It was the largest crowd to ever watch it. And then the pay per view of it was just ungodly. This was my opportunity to be really noticed and be seen. My paycheck….it was huge. I made more money in that 30 minutes than I did in a whole year with the NWA. People expected it and they were gonna get it from me."

On working with Mr. T: "I wasn't crazy about it. I was very protective WrestleMania 1 of the business. I was taught that. You take care of it. You don't give out all your trade secrets. But then again you look at somebody like Ric Flair and you can say how can you hide something when they look like that? So I guess I started to give in a little bit."

On the transition in WWF from wrestling to entertainment in the 1980s: "It depends on your personality. I protected it. To me that wasn't protecting it. As you can see right now, because they didn't protect it, where it is now, there's only two shows now. Look how many there was, there was one in every state, now look where it is."

On Vince using bigger guys like Warrior: "I thought it was the worst move they could've made. Vince did it on purpose. He did it so he could be the only one."

On Warrior: "He never paid his dues. You gotta pay your dues, go and learn your trade that'll make it better when you are on that big stage. It's called experience and nobody has any now, because there's nowhere to go to get it."

On giving the belt to smaller stars like Savage and Bret: "No. Absolutely not. It's like putting the belt on someone who wants to be a wrestler. It didn't work. It downgraded, made the belt worthless. When Terry Funk, Harley Race had world titles, it meant more."

On the rumor that Hogan wouldn't drop the belt to Bret in 1993: "I don't blame him. I wouldn't have either. Bret Hart was a nobody from Canada and Hogan was the greatest star in wrestling. I don't blame him. He did the right thing."

He also gave some quick fire thoughts on several wrestlers:
-Ultimate Warrior: "I gotta go to the bathroom………………..NEXT!"
-Vince McMahon: "One of a kind."
-Hulk Hogan: "Great."
-Bret Hart: "I don't care much for Canadians."
-Randy Savage: "OK."
-Ric Flair: "A Joke."

Too bad they didn't ask him about Vader lol

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I will just copy & paste my exact same response I left in the WWE board for the same topic:


What a worthless piece of garbage infested fart butter dipped in tobacco spit and carpet fragments from where your dog dragged its ass after taking a dump.

Seriously, Orndorff sucks.

[K5]

wow, i didn't know he was so douchey. don't like canadians? you budday.

[kazoosandstreamers]

Someone who calls people like Bret and Flair jokes obviously is bitter or not in the right mind.

[cordless2016]

Sounds like he took one to many hits to the head. Bret and Savage are two of the greatest ever. I've always felt Flair was a bit overrated but he was also a huge star as well. Sounds like he has some grudges he has held onto.

[Brad]

I agree with him on the paying dues thing. Other than that, he sounds ridiculous

[tnafan17: The Total Package]

His comments are utterly absurd. I can't believe this guy has the nerve to bash on people like that. It seems like its all out of just pure jealousy.

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Im a big Orndorff fan.

and Ill tell ya this what he has said is total crap.dont understand at all.

[hulkhogancollector]

You guys have to understand Orndorff is a legit tough SOB. Flair getting thrown off the top rope every match, doing the same spots over and over made the biz a joke to guys like him whats there not to understand here??

People paid money to see the big men like Andre and Hogan that's the mentality he is coming from, that's what he saying you don't go from Andre and Hogan to Bret Hart and expect to business to draw the same interest.

[LeighD]

Apr 29, 2012 23:46:47 GMT -5 hulkhogancollector said:

www.spam.com/wrestling/news/236022/Paul-Orndorff-Slams-Bret-Hart,-Warrior,-Ric-Flair-And-More.htm

Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff was a guest on Inside The Ropes' 15th episode, where he talked about several topics and slammed a few legendary wrestlers. His interview stars 42 minutes, 20 seconds in.

On facing Ric Flair for the NWA World Title in 1982: "He was just another body. Some are better than others. I believed in making it look real. I was probably hard to work with because I wanted it to make real and I knew how to wrestle."

On working the first Wrestlemania in the main event: "It was special. There were so many people. It was the largest crowd to ever watch it. And then the pay per view of it was just ungodly. This was my opportunity to be really noticed and be seen. My paycheck….it was huge. I made more money in that 30 minutes than I did in a whole year with the NWA. People expected it and they were gonna get it from me."

On working with Mr. T: "I wasn't crazy about it. I was very protective WrestleMania 1 of the business. I was taught that. You take care of it. You don't give out all your trade secrets. But then again you look at somebody like Ric Flair and you can say how can you hide something when they look like that? So I guess I started to give in a little bit."

On the transition in WWF from wrestling to entertainment in the 1980s: "It depends on your personality. I protected it. To me that wasn't protecting it. As you can see right now, because they didn't protect it, where it is now, there's only two shows now. Look how many there was, there was one in every state, now look where it is."

On Vince using bigger guys like Warrior: "I thought it was the worst move they could've made. Vince did it on purpose. He did it so he could be the only one."

On Warrior: "He never paid his dues. You gotta pay your dues, go and learn your trade that'll make it better when you are on that big stage. It's called experience and nobody has any now, because there's nowhere to go to get it."

On giving the belt to smaller stars like Savage and Bret: "No. Absolutely not. It's like putting the belt on someone who wants to be a wrestler. It didn't work. It downgraded, made the belt worthless. When Terry Funk, Harley Race had world titles, it meant more."

On the rumor that Hogan wouldn't drop the belt to Bret in 1993: "I don't blame him. I wouldn't have either. Bret Hart was a nobody from Canada and Hogan was the greatest star in wrestling. I don't blame him. He did the right thing."

He also gave some quick fire thoughts on several wrestlers:
-Ultimate Warrior: "I gotta go to the bathroom………………..NEXT!"
-Vince McMahon: "One of a kind."
-Hulk Hogan: "Great."
-Bret Hart: "I don't care much for Canadians."
-Randy Savage: "OK."
-Ric Flair: "A Joke."

Too bad they didn't ask him about Vader lol

LMAO!!!


He says when guys like Race & Funk wore the belt it meant something but when "smaller" guys like Svage & Bret wore it was devalued. Didn't know there was a world of difference (size-wise) between those four.

[Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai]

Someone should remind Paul Orndorff that Canadians were responsible for the largest paying audience he ever worked in front of in 1986.

I am an Orndorff fan also, but even taking into account his tough-guy status and the era he came up in, I can't understand his knocking Savage or Bret. If it's a size issue, then he ought to have the same problem with Roddy Piper. As for Bret Hart being a "nobody," that's just short-sighted and not entirely true. Bret was pretty unknown to U.S. audiences when he arrived in the WWF (around the time of Orndorff's initial push), but certainly wasn't a "nobody" by the time he got a main event push. Not anymore than Orndorff was during his own push, so I don't see the big deal.

Dissing Savage for size is irrelevant because fans never held it against him, and his charisma made him an almost immediate attraction. Plus he could work with (and carry) the big guys. I'll give him a pass on the Flair comments since he's not the first to criticize him in that way, but I don't agree with that either.

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May 2, 2012 22:05:03 GMT -5 Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai said:

Someone should remind Paul Orndorff that Canadians were responsible for the largest paying audience he ever worked in front of in 1986.

I am an Orndorff fan also, but even taking into account his tough-guy status and the era he came up in, I can't understand his knocking Savage or Bret. If it's a size issue, then he ought to have the same problem with Roddy Piper. As for Bret Hart being a "nobody," that's just short-sighted and not entirely true. Bret was pretty unknown to U.S. audiences when he arrived in the WWF (around the time of Orndorff's initial push), but certainly wasn't a "nobody" by the time he got a main event push. Not anymore than Orndorff was during his own push, so I don't see the big deal.

Dissing Savage for size is irrelevant because fans never held it against him, and his charisma made him an almost immediate attraction. Plus he could work with (and carry) the big guys. I'll give him a pass on the Flair comments since he's not the first to criticize him in that way, but I don't agree with that either.

great post......I had forgotten about that Canadian crowd......his craptalk makes even less sense now.

[hulkhogancollector]

May 2, 2012 22:05:03 GMT -5 Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai said:

Someone should remind Paul Orndorff that Canadians were responsible for the largest paying audience he ever worked in front of in 1986.

I am an Orndorff fan also, but even taking into account his tough-guy status and the era he came up in, I can't understand his knocking Savage or Bret. If it's a size issue, then he ought to have the same problem with Roddy Piper. As for Bret Hart being a "nobody," that's just short-sighted and not entirely true. Bret was pretty unknown to U.S. audiences when he arrived in the WWF (around the time of Orndorff's initial push), but certainly wasn't a "nobody" by the time he got a main event push. Not anymore than Orndorff was during his own push, so I don't see the big deal.

Dissing Savage for size is irrelevant because fans never held it against him, and his charisma made him an almost immediate attraction. Plus he could work with (and carry) the big guys. I'll give him a pass on the Flair comments since he's not the first to criticize him in that way, but I don't agree with that either.

I think Paul is working in "character" much the way Iron Shiek continues to do you know being that mean heel but with that said Orndorff really never liked Flair as a booker or a wrestler because he felt what he did in the ring "exposed" the business. Again Orndorff was pro athlete played with the New Orleans Saints the man was the real deal.