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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 10, 2012 23:09:12 GMT -5
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Post by 1992 on Jul 10, 2012 23:31:31 GMT -5
Still the ing man. Also, here's another great video of Sonnen. Granted it's older (2010, 7 months before the first Silva fight) (Speech starts around 0:28)
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 11, 2012 15:26:16 GMT -5
That was a fantastic response to everything. I seriously laughed at his WWE comments.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 11, 2012 15:56:16 GMT -5
For those of you who don't have Fuel (like me), this event will air live on FUELTV.com too.
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Post by anxietydestroys on Jul 11, 2012 17:08:43 GMT -5
Anderson's knee hit Fail's diaframe causing his head to jerk forward striking (questionable) Anderson's thigh on the follow threw of the strike. Legal. Dana White confirmed it.
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Post by scoobypat on Jul 11, 2012 21:59:33 GMT -5
I like Sonnen a lot more after this loss than I did before.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 12, 2012 11:10:43 GMT -5
Anderson's knee hit Fail's diaframe causing his head to jerk forward striking (questionable) Anderson's thigh on the follow threw of the strike. Legal. Dana White confirmed it. As much as I like Dana, as he knows, he is not the athletic commission. Kiser already said, if Anderson Silva does anything like that again, it'll be the last time he fights in Nevada.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 12, 2012 11:19:53 GMT -5
Anderson's knee hit Fail's diaframe causing his head to jerk forward striking (questionable) Anderson's thigh on the follow threw of the strike. Legal. Dana White confirmed it. Kiser already said, if Anderson Silva does anything like that again, it'll be the last time he fights in Nevada. Kizer was referring to the weigh-in incident when he said that, not the knee.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 12, 2012 11:34:04 GMT -5
Yuppp.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 12, 2012 11:56:18 GMT -5
True. Then again, he also spoke about how blatant Anderson's Vaseline usage was as well as how he wouldn't be particularly interested in another another Anderson Silva fight in Vegas.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 12, 2012 12:16:58 GMT -5
Then that's a huge change from what he said before. Silva has done that plenty of times, and it was even brought up after UFC 126 and Kizer said it was fine.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 12, 2012 12:38:52 GMT -5
I think he was more pissed off about how blatant it was this time.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 12, 2012 12:41:39 GMT -5
He's done it the same way SEVERAL times now. Hahaha. I didn't see any difference. He's always done it.
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Post by anxietydestroys on Jul 12, 2012 12:46:11 GMT -5
Hey, if Vegas or ANY commission does not like certain behavior THEN BAN IT and MORE IMPORTANTLY let the fighters and fans/media know the rules! Look at Chael's stuff with Cali. If you listened to Chael on Rogan's podcast... athletic commissions are silly and grey especially the way he explained how he they test and what the explanation of his failure was (it's different from state to state another problem). To me "threats" from the commission just prove that it's legal and more importantly a grey area aka a problem for the sport.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 12, 2012 12:48:23 GMT -5
The problem is that it IS legal to wipe excess vaseline on yourself. Keizer even said it. He said something along the lines of "it's expected to get on the body at some time. these guys grapple, too".
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Post by anxietydestroys on Jul 12, 2012 13:00:55 GMT -5
Realistically, when you get to the point of body contact... it transfers. I know BJJ guys... that little amount gave him no advantage. NOW, on the other hand... it was a little silly to do it while the cameras were on you and millions of people were watching... but it's subjective.
If it's such a big deal (generally speaking no need to argue). Limit the amount vaseline they put on a fighter (it doesn't directly effect me so I don't mind either way). Well, what about size difference....? I'm sure someone can figure out a formula...
Plus some fighters treat their skin the night before so when they sweat they become slippery. If you put cocoa butter on the night before or hours before a fight (usually not in the locker room only thing you really have in the locker room is water and training equipment this will reduce any threat of cheating or being set up to look like you were cheating.. we're only human's right)...and wipe it off or let it dry... once you start to sweat all the cocoa butter in your pores sweats out.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 12, 2012 13:08:21 GMT -5
Doesn't matter anyway. Chael got Anderson down with ease.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 12, 2012 13:46:43 GMT -5
I just don't like how many people on here dismiss what Chael did to Anderson, not only in the their first fight, but in the second as well.
They make it sound like he got "whooped" in their second fight. I wouldn't say he "whooped" at all.
Apparently, they missed the entire first round which Chael DOMINATED. It took Chael 4 seconds to take Anderson down and keep him down and even got full mount position!!
When was the last time ANYONE other than Chael did that to Anderson in the UFC?? Maybe Travis Lutter and that's it and that was friggin' YEARS ago, people!!
NOBODY has been able to do to Anderson Silva what Chael has done. He proved it. Granted, he lost both fights, but still did WAY better than anyone else before him in the UFC.
People clearly aren't giving Chael Sonnen the respect he deserves.
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Post by K Dot on Jul 12, 2012 15:42:27 GMT -5
I just don't like how many people on here dismiss what Chael did to Anderson, not only in the their first fight, but in the second as well. They make it sound like he got "whooped" in their second fight. I wouldn't say he "whooped" at all. Apparently, they missed the entire first round which Chael DOMINATED. It took Chael 4 seconds to take Anderson down and keep him down and even got full mount position!! When was the last time ANYONE other than Chael did that to Anderson in the UFC?? Maybe Travis Lutter and that's it and that was friggin' YEARS ago, people!! NOBODY has been able to do to Anderson Silva what Chael has done. He proved it. Granted, he lost both fights, but still did WAY better than anyone else before him in the UFC. People clearly aren't giving Chael Sonnen the respect he deserves. You're not getting the point that even though Sonnen took him down the whole round, he didn't do ANY substantial damage. Was Silva's face bloodied up? No, did Silva seem like he was EVER in grave danger? No. Sonnen only got the full mount at the end of the round and still didn't muster up any strong shots that rocked Silva. If you think what Chael did was so great, how come he didn't repeat what he did round 2? I think in my honest opinion, with all the hype and emotion, Silva let Sonnen ride his emotions for a bit and took him out. If you saw the whatever the spinning backfist that was, Sonnen doesn't throw craplike that and it was probably because he let his emotions get the best of him. Like I said before in my other post, this fight showed how the fighters react when things aren't going their way, Silva stayed calm and didn't let Sonnen do much damage, while Sonnen attempted a spinning backfist, Silva ducked and the rest is history. I'm not a Sonnen hater but when people say Sonnen lost this fight, he slipped, yada yada. In MMA you gotta take advatage of your opponents mistakes and counter on it. Silva is up 2-0 on Sonnen.
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Post by anxietydestroys on Jul 12, 2012 17:24:13 GMT -5
Yup, not sure if it's the truth but the rumor is the above senaior is exactly what Silva's game plan was. Also, no joke either... Segal and him were said to have been practicing moves that were boarder line illegal (don't even think about that knee). I'm not sure what that means. But when they showed Silva in the locker room... that punch right to the elbow...with all the power?!? Has anyone EVER seen anyone do that before?
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