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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 3, 2012 14:23:05 GMT -5
the story that went around was that,indeed,Luger was gonna beat Yoko for the Belt...BUT,he opened his mouth early ( and this was reported in the NY Daily News a couple days before the event) and let it be known he was getting the belt,which led Vince to change it to Luger losing to Yoko.... Funny enough, Luger was asked about this in both of his shoot interviews back in '04 and said that story was false and he was never booked to win the WWF title. Take it for what you will, but it just seems like Luger trying to cover his ass for making the biggest mistake of his career. well he can say what he wants...i just know for a fact tha "I" , in deed,did read that little article in the NY Daily News personally, on i think it was the friday before Mania,and was all like "Whoa!!" ...pretty sure it was a woman reporter,too,so i don't know if she caught his eye, showed some cleavage,or what,but something made Luger trust her enough to blab to her that he was going to win the title...BAD move! reminds me of Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis in the Fly where he takes her back to his apartment,shows her his world changing invention,then is aghast when he realizes she's going to write about it,knowing full well she was a reporter BEFORE showing her his invention...
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 3, 2012 14:30:32 GMT -5
also,and i could actually be wrong about this, but i SWEAR i remember seeing a pic years ago of a beaming Luger backstage holding the WWF Championship Belt.... promo pic that accidentally leaked out?
of course i googled it,and can't find it....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 17:14:53 GMT -5
did they really tape an episode of Superstars before mania with Luger as champ? That's just as worse as luger telling a reporter about it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 18:55:02 GMT -5
How did the pics leak?? Superstars back in 1994 were taped with 3 weeks worth of shows (sometimes 4 to cover the month) in one day thehistoryofwwe.com/94.htm shows you all the events from that year but you can look up any wwf show from any year this site is amazing!
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 3, 2012 19:39:41 GMT -5
How did the pics leak?? Superstars back in 1994 were taped with 3 weeks worth of shows (sometimes 4 to cover the month) in one day thehistoryofwwe.com/94.htm shows you all the events from that year but you can look up any wwf show from any year this site is amazing! yeah,this is true...went to tapings they had up in Wilkes-Barre in 1993 and 1994 , and the shows were over 4 hours long each....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 0:42:04 GMT -5
I never believed that whole thing about Luger giving the info to the reporter.
I just felt that Bret was the guy. Luger wasn't.
The whole ending with Bret, I think, was Vince's way of apologizing to Bret for having him lose to Yoko at WM 9 only for Hogan to come in and defeat Yoko in 1 minute.
I dunno...I could be wrong though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 6:09:20 GMT -5
I think they really wanted Luger to be the next Hogan, but Bret was so popular that they couldn't just ignore that, which is why they had both guys win the rumble, so they had more time to make their decision of who they were going to run with. It turned out that Bret was more popular so they went with him.
I don't believe the whole Luger was booked to win but it was changed because of an article thing.
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Post by Raine on Mar 4, 2012 6:34:26 GMT -5
Luger should have beaten Yoko at Summerslam 93 for the belt pure & simple, after the huge push he got with the Lex Express. Why Vince wanted to wait another 8 months before finally giving Flexy Lexy the belt is mistifying.
Should really have been Luger vs Bret at WM10 from the start if anything, Yoko shouldn't have been involved, probably would have faced Taker at WM10 if Taker didn't take 10 months off.
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 4, 2012 10:17:04 GMT -5
well,the article was definitely a legit story, i read it....they get the Daily News at my workplace,and i buy it every day ,and i distinctly remember reading that little article about it,and Luger saying he was going to be the Champion,and telling my best Friend Corey about it,aghast and dumbfounded how their plans could be leaked early for the biggest show of the year! ...of course,it also COULD have been in the NY Post! i'm not sure,but i used to get both papers up until about 2002,when just switched the the News only...but it was definitely one of the NY papers...
the OTHER thought i had on the subject,along the lines of them going with Bret all along,was maybe is was a bit of intentional misdirection on the WWF's part...having Luger throw that out there,have the paper's report and expose the still " secret" world of this all being pre-planned with the results of the Main Event's ,only to actuallty do something different,and giving the article's and writer's no credibility...
similar to something that happened with WM IV - some WWF Magazines got out of distribution early,and made it to newstands 3 days before the event, proudly proclaiming "Macho Madness Takes It All ! " , and Savage as the winner of the Tournament!! on Monday,the day after WM, a reporter called Titan Towers and said,basically, "Got you! How can it be real if there's a magazine out before the event saying who will win!?" ...the response was basically,on Friday you had a hell of a story,on Monday,you have a hell of a coincidence,and a story you now can't prove!
the Luger picture thing, i can SWEAR to GOD i saw it up and down,but i have no proof...BUT,if you choose to believe me,that still doesn't mean anything,as others have said, Vince used to tape shows sometimes a month in advance, and he used to do the same thing with promo pics, taking pictures of guys with titles a month or 2 before they won it,just so he can have the stuff ready to go as soon as the match is over...and it's quite possible he had definitely planned to go with Luger,but then changed his mind,and was left with all this promo stuff that's now useless....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 13:27:14 GMT -5
I believe ya Mikey.
I just don't believe that they had Luger lose BECAUSE of that article.
Maybe Luger was just trying to show confidence in the interview by saying "I'm gonna win! I'm gonna walk out of Madison Square Garden the WWF Champion!"
I don't think it was meant to come across as him giving the results away. Maybe the reporter just interpreted it wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 13:43:23 GMT -5
I know they did promo pics of Bret with the title for KOTR 93 when he was supposed to defeat Hogan. They took pics of Hogan and Bret both pulling at different ends of the title too.
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Post by koreygunz on Mar 4, 2012 15:24:39 GMT -5
I know they did promo pics of Bret with the title for KOTR 93 when he was supposed to defeat Hogan. They took pics of Hogan and Bret both pulling at different ends of the title too. Those promo pics were intended for Summerslam 93, not kotr
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Post by jammer311 on Mar 4, 2012 16:56:05 GMT -5
Was the interview Lex gave for the article done in kayfabe though?? Like, what if Lex was saying "At Wrestlemania X I will be the Champion." Or did Lex straight out say "yeah, they booked me to win the belt tomorrow, gonna beat Yoko, then Bret, gonna have a good run as Champion." Cause having him say it kayfabe style for the article seems more logical.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 17:11:20 GMT -5
I know they did promo pics of Bret with the title for KOTR 93 when he was supposed to defeat Hogan. They took pics of Hogan and Bret both pulling at different ends of the title too. Those promo pics were intended for Summerslam 93, not kotr correct. KOTR 93 was Hogan to sucessfully defend against Yoko and Bret winning KOTR to become the 1# contender. none of us will truly know the story about WMX and the title.Ludvig Borga was in the mix until he walked too.Vince LOVED this dude. anyhoo heres my 2 cents..... the story I had always heard was that Bret was to lose his match to Yoko because of Owen then go on to beat Owen later in the night.Luger was then to beat Yoko in the fairytale WM ending. but during Feb/March Vince became worried about reactions to Luger at house shows,Raw tapings and previously The Rumble.the crowd was going cold on him because ol Lex was phoning it in like he worked for Verizon....and WMX was changed it to the scenario that we got.quite honestly come Rumble time the Luger experiment had failed lads. dont forget Vinnie Mac who years later would jeer WCW for piping in noise for Goldberg did exactly the same thing for Luger in 94.
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 4, 2012 18:13:50 GMT -5
Was the interview Lex gave for the article done in kayfabe though?? Like, what if Lex was saying "At Wrestlemania X I will be the Champion." Or did Lex straight out say "yeah, they booked me to win the belt tomorrow, gonna beat Yoko, then Bret, gonna have a good run as Champion." Cause having him say it kayfabe style for the article seems more logical. i honestly don't know... i just remember it wasn't like a full-scale interview, just like a little side paragraph thing in the gossip section, saying that Lex Luger was out on the town,and let it spill that he was going to win the Championship,and the 2 Special Referee's were going to be Roddy Piper and Mr. Perfect....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 23:36:40 GMT -5
Either way...I'm just gonna say it...
I'm glad they didn't give the title to Luger.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 7:09:54 GMT -5
I would have liked Luger to have the title for a while I think he deserved it.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 5, 2012 10:23:54 GMT -5
I remember someone on this site use to have in their signature a pic of Luger holding up the WWF Title.
I never thought that Luger would have been a good champion. He was bland on the mic and just average in the ring when he tried. Yoko was a "evil foreign" champ while Luger was the American hero, so of course he was going to get over big at SummerSlam. But after SummerSlam the fans just lost interest in him and realized that Bret was the "true" champion of the company. Luger made a good upper mid-carder, lower main eventer, but I never saw him as WWF Champion material.
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Post by koreygunz on Mar 5, 2012 12:06:04 GMT -5
If Luger didn't win the title at Summerslam 93 ( which he should have) he was never gonna get it. I think if he had walked out of Mania as champ, he would have flopped and prolly would have had to turn heel and feud with Bret.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2012 9:39:55 GMT -5
The fans probably lost interest in Luger after Summerslam 93 because the wwf kinda lost interest in him. YES the borga rivalry was good but it would of been alot better if the title was involved too pitting the 'Anti-American' Ludvig Borga against the 'All-American' Lex Luger
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