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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2012 19:03:37 GMT -5
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Post by Rule 30 on Feb 20, 2012 19:06:41 GMT -5
Never liked it. Was a bad storyline and Meat was never good in the ring.
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Post by jakksking1 on Feb 20, 2012 19:41:53 GMT -5
He wrestled with an erection once...... His name was Meat...... He was a bad wrestler........ Really no redeeming qualities. It was crap like this that gives Attitude era haters an actual argument to why that generation was trash.
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Post by mikey1974 on Feb 20, 2012 19:47:17 GMT -5
part of the problem with the Attitude Era,especially early on,was that they would just throw anything out there,and hope it caught on...P.M.S. & Meat was one example...remember Beaver Cleavage? or The Oddities?
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Post by jakksking1 on Feb 20, 2012 19:57:09 GMT -5
part of the problem with the Attitude Era,especially early on,was that they would just throw anything out there,and hope it caught on...P.M.S. & Meat was one example...remember Beaver Cleavage? or The Oddities? Vince Russo 101. For every 10 ideas he had, 1 or 2 were awesome, the others went down hard. |
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Post by mikey1974 on Feb 20, 2012 20:01:43 GMT -5
part of the problem with the Attitude Era,especially early on,was that they would just throw anything out there,and hope it caught on...P.M.S. & Meat was one example...remember Beaver Cleavage? or The Oddities? Vince Russo 101. For every 10 ideas he had, 1 or 2 were awesome, the others went down hard. exactly,which is why his WCW and TNA stints have sucked so hard - he needs someone to shape what is good into something workable....sadly,i don't know if Vince was bust or out of the country or something for Russo to slip some of that crap in there... |
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Post by jakksking1 on Feb 20, 2012 20:41:31 GMT -5
Vince Russo 101. For every 10 ideas he had, 1 or 2 were awesome, the others went down hard. exactly,which is why his WCW and TNA stints have sucked so hard - he needs someone to shape what is good into something workable....sadly,i don't know if Vince was bust or out of the country or something for Russo to slip some of that crap in there... He had a few good storylines, built trust up in Vince, and snuck some crap through probably. I mean, at the time, Jerry Springer was one of the highest rated shows on TV. Probably didnt take much to convince McMahon that controversial subject matters may be popular. |
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Post by Rule 30 on Feb 20, 2012 21:09:27 GMT -5
Yeah, Vince was a good filter for Russo. Leave Russo unchained and you get WCW 2000.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2012 21:28:56 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with everything said...however...with P.MS. & Meat we did get this:  |
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Post by K5 on Feb 20, 2012 23:59:48 GMT -5
still find it really weird that he was caught recording conversations and hence blacklisted
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 21, 2012 0:39:19 GMT -5
Vince Russo's biggest mistake was trying to get himself over as an on-air character. That's what turned fans off of WCW the most imo. His New Blood bullcrapwas a disaster of epic proportions. Hogan, Bischoff and Russo all needed taken off TV at the time and none of them could step away until Bischoff and Hogan finally cracked. If you go back and watch WCW from about Octoberish until it ended in March, the product got drastically more watchable imo. Terry Taylor was in charge, and he started booking the younger guys more correctly and orchestrated Steiner's run as well as putting Flair in charge and having Booker T build towards Steiner for 5 months.
That same Terry Taylor was pretty intricate in what TNA was doing from a booking standpoint prior to fall of 2006 as well until Russo was put in charge of creative. I just think Russo was an artist. He had a million different ideas and with no filter those ideas materialized on live television, for better or worse.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 11:17:08 GMT -5
Meat and PMS were effin dreadful.
and all that I have to say about Russo has been covered......beautifully covered by you lads.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Feb 21, 2012 13:21:39 GMT -5
The only thing worse than Meat was the rhyming, oddball "Planet Stasiak" gimmick. Seriously- how many words rhyme with Stasiak?
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Feb 26, 2012 10:13:19 GMT -5
Boring wrestler and bad gimmick and when you got a combination of both of those at the same time, you usually don't last too long in the wrestling business. Anyone got any idea what Shawn Stasiak is doin' these days??
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Post by DTP. on Feb 26, 2012 10:36:55 GMT -5
Boring wrestler and bad gimmick and when you got a combination of both of those at the same time, you usually don't last too long in the wrestling business. Anyone got any idea what Shawn Stasiak is doin' these days?? He's now a chiropractor. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 26, 2012 21:18:21 GMT -5
Vince Russo's biggest mistake was trying to get himself over as an on-air character. That's what turned fans off of WCW the most imo. His New Blood bullcrap was a disaster of epic proportions. Hogan, Bischoff and Russo all needed taken off TV at the time and none of them could step away until Bischoff and Hogan finally cracked. If you go back and watch WCW from about Octoberish until it ended in March, the product got drastically more watchable imo. Terry Taylor was in charge, and he started booking the younger guys more correctly and orchestrated Steiner's run as well as putting Flair in charge and having Booker T build towards Steiner for 5 months. That same Terry Taylor was pretty intricate in what TNA was doing from a booking standpoint prior to fall of 2006 as well until Russo was put in charge of creative. I just think Russo was an artist. He had a million different ideas and with no filter those ideas materialized on live television, for better or worse. Taylor was also a writer for WWF in the late 90s/early 00's as well, some of the more popular years in WWF history. |
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Post by Bullgod on Feb 27, 2012 5:41:47 GMT -5
Meat/Stasiak = Another no talent who thought he could make it in wrestling because his dad was a big star, although he was still better than many other wrestlers who have been in this catagory!
Stasiak claims he carried a tape recorder with him to record peoples promos so he could listen back to them and use them to practice his promo skills. Apparently he was riding with 2 wrestlers (davey boy & Sid I believe) and they were arguing in the car and Stasiak recorded the argument with his tape recorder for a laugh. When he got found out I think WWE management thought he was recording all wrestlers conversations and selling them off to dirt sheets etc. But he wasn't blackballed from wrestling, he had a decent run with WCW afterwards and eventually got brought back to WWE in what was a forgettable stint.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 19:03:24 GMT -5
pms ruled
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 28, 2012 19:38:06 GMT -5
part of the problem with the Attitude Era,especially early on,was that they would just throw anything out there,and hope it caught on...P.M.S. & Meat was one example...remember Beaver Cleavage? or The Oddities? The Oddities were actually over and somewhat entertaining. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 29, 2012 0:18:54 GMT -5
It was an obvious mistake. It made Stasiak seem like a prop for P.M.S, which killed the already small chance he had to get over. The name "Meat" alone is one of the worst ideas in wrestling history.
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